RE: Re: Kathy just a few thoughts/read this sweetie/

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, I never ever said looks werent important, and I hope you know, I wasnt directed the post whatsoever to you.

Have you seen my pics? I think I' m pretty cute! The latest is of me and Tyler at the beach. I keep up on my self, and work out everyday, may have a slower metabolism than you, but I do anyway and it is alot harder to do day after day, with little to small results! Let me tell you. I get my hair highlighted every 6 weeks , make sure to be in the sun a half hour a day, for some color and vitamn d, and care about my appearance .I was talking to KAthy about myself and my sitution after I heard about her tummy issues. To try some situps and try to focus on health in the meantime! Thats all... And that I used to have an obsessive viewing on myself, very-Ill end some pics of me when I Was 20, so you will see. And I have gotten better and had to let go of it, and focus on health first-as I was very ILL< and it was consuming my life, trying to control every aspect of my imperfections.Thats all. I work out all the time, and I have let go of sizes so much, I know you are proud of your size and all, and if thats were you need to be, thats great! Its good you have reached your goal. Goals are very imprtant in life Love julie

>From: "naturalbeauty38" <naturalbeauty38@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Kathy just a few thoughts/read this sweetie/ >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:20:21 -0000 > > > and others >My exercise and my looks are extremely important to me and always >have been and that is not a bad thing in my opnion. But yes, when it >came down to big breasts or health, hell there was no competition >there, the choice was as easy as can be. I did not care how I looked >in a damn tank top compared to feeling good. However, my looks were >not ever pushed to the way side either, had they been I would have >just gone to my old PS who would have removed the implant and capsule >for free and then later if he felt it was safe at some point would >have done the lift. So no matter what anyone says, our looks still >matter to us even when we are ill. I mean I did not want to look like >crap after explant, I am sure that is also why you did not want >a lolipop lift because you still cared about your breasts and maybe >your nipples were more of a concern cause your young and want babies >too. However I want to make it very very clear that my working out >and all that is not just about my looks or being as tiny as I can be. >For me it was a goal that i strived hard for, I learned as much as I >could about fitness and opted to get into the shape of my life. My >goal was 16% body fat and that is something that I worked on for the >last 2 or 3 years to obtain. It is a healthy thing for an athletic >woman of my age to be as low as 14% if that is made up of muscle and >not just skin and bones. There is a big difference of someone who >weighs 90 pounds and has a body fat of 16% and someone like me who is >a solid 120 pounds at 5'3" tall that is a good solid amount of >weight, but only 20 pounds of it is fat. I longed to be in that shape >for years and have acheived it and feel really good about how I look. >I know that maybe this is not everyones goal or desire but for me it >was important and in some ways I think it was a revenge against the >big boob look i had longed for, it is my way of saying screw you to >that image of myself with big fake breasts. I can look in the mirror >now and be extremely proud of myself with my small muscular body, >even if I have hardly and breasts at all I don't care, I would take >this lean me over that fake breasted me any day. >I also don't feel totally against plastic surgery as some may and >some day if the need should arise I would def do some procedure to >keep things firm tight whatever. Right now I feel I look damn good >and to me looking good has a positive affect on my health. It really >truly does help me feel better. I am not against getting a nose job >if that is what it takes to make someone feel good about themselves, >or a face lift if it came down to it, something like that, even the >tummy tuck if I could only afford to go to Dr Feng for it I would be >there in a second. I am afraid to go to a cheap Dr for fear of the >resulsts so maybe someday when or if I can afford it I may go back to >Feng for that procedure. Ya never know. >however my point in this post was merely to say that I truly believe >in fitness for your health as much as your self confidence. I mean I >have NEVER FELT BETTER ABOUT MYSELF as I do right now. That is worth >allot to me. Lets face it, we still care how we look, we all got >implants to be better or to feel better, that for me did not ever >stop, but fitness is beyond looks. It is a whole relm of things, it >is about being healthy, living long, motivating others around me that >they too can do it. Not to brag but there are about 3 or 4 different >girls at my work who have lost weight from working out and diet not >just surgery, who have come and told me I was their inspiration, that >is a good feeling. I love to see others reach their fitness goals, it >is a fantastic feeling and I will never stop caring about my looks or >health. I feel this way and will always be who I am. There is no >reason that we have to let our bodies go because we are getting >older. Has anyone here heard of Charo? She is said to possibly be 60 >years old(yes I think she has implants too) she is amazing, she is >absolutley stunning and in the best shape you can imagine, she amazes >me, I am sure there is some work done too, but her legs, well you >just don't make legs like that, they are the work of dancing working >out etc. That is how I want to be, fit in my 50's and 60's and as far >beyond as I can be. >to me fitness is a way of life that is more encompassing that just >looking good or fitting in a size 1. >hugs > > > > > > > > > > >In , "JOSEPH PALANCA" <juliejp61@m...> >wrote: > > kathy, I agree-health should come first. I wouldn't worry too much >about it, and just start doing some more stomach workouts, like get >one of the "Firm " tapes for just the abdoman, I think mine is 25 min >long. I do it three times per week. See how much it helps. > > My main problem in the first place, was harsh expectations on my >appearance. it was all about being my best and I did whatever I could >to get there,. Starving myself ,getting implants, working out 2 hours >a day...It has taken me to get to this point of being so ill, I have >let go of it and like you said put health first. I promised God that >I would appreciate the real me more, and the body he gave me , >imperfections and all- if I could get my health back. I really >pleaded. I actually had to get counseling for this, for obsessive >body image, you could say, and actually was told to stop working out >for a month, and when I did go back I had to tell myself- everyday >when I work out, I had a limit- 45 min, and it is for my health >first. if I start looking better, it is a plus. It was too >discouraging to be so ill, and not lose weight. > > I am so happy now! heavier than I ever thought Id be (my God Im 5'7 >and wear a size 11 now) but ok with it, as I have to get better. And >I am loved, by God and my hubby skinny or not. Looking at all our >little imperfections, is just silly to me, and too time consuming. I >do workout, but let go of the rest. Love you, > > Re: Kathy just a few thoughts/read this >sweetie > > > > > > > > - > > Thanks for the advice. I am definitely going to get rolling on >some > > simple exercises and work my way up slowly. Some day I might >look at > > the tummy tuck also. But I am afraid to have another surgery at >this > > point. I have heard people who have immune illnesses say that >some > > times surgeries make their progress go backward. I want to be >more > > confident of my wellness first. Health before beauty! > > I have some questions for anyone reading this post. Has anybody >tried > > the product called Clear from Awareness corp. I ordered it >probably 2 > > years ago and never used it. Or how about Paragone? The curezone > > site seems to like paragone. I am really thinking about doing a > > parasite cleanse but am afraid of some of the ingredients. I hear > > that wormwood can be quite toxic. It is so confusing when trying > > products because someone will say it is great then someone else >says > > it doesn't work at all and you dont know what to think. I have >alot > > of products that I have neveer or seldom used because I had a > > reaction--most likely a herx--to it. I still can't even work my >nerve > > up to do a liver cleanse. I am afraid of the epsom salts being >too > > much for me. What ever happened to the idea of people posting >things > > they tried that they thought helped? I think this is a great >idea. I > > also think it would be a great idea to list the things people >tried > > that didn't help. I would be willing to help compile the list >but I > > am not too brilliant at knowing how to display things on a >computer. > > Hugs, kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In > <mailto: >, " >naturalbeauty38" < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naturalbeauty38@y<mailto:naturalbeauty38@y>...> wrote: > > > Kathy, > > > the biggest thing you can do for your abdominal area esp at >your age > > > (not saying your old) just that at 50 it wil require more work >then > > > at 30 ya know what I mean, for me I think core stregnthening is >where > > > it is at. The core is your entire abdominal area and it really >is > > > imperative that you find things that will stregnthen it, the >good > > > news! It does not require allot of money or expensive machines, >goody > > > right? > > > I would go out and invest in two things, a pilates tape, get a >nice > > > beginner one, Austin has one that is two workouts each >30 > > > minutes long, all about toning and stregnthening the core, it >also is > > > a bit of yoga so very relaxing and probably not too hard on >your fms. > > > The second thing I would get is a good yoga ball. Go to a >sporting > > > goods store and try to find one for your height. You will need >to > > > inflate it so if you don't have a little bike tire inflater, >ask the > > > store if they have one, the ones the balls come with are very >hard to > > > fill the darned things up with, unless of course you have a big > > > strong hubby like mine hee hee. He blew mine up with that >crappy lil > > > pump mine came with. They come with a sheet of workouts that >are > > > pretty core related, but you may need to buy a little book that >has > > > more core exercises in it too. I know of one on line for only 9 > > > bucks. These two things will get your abs as fit as you can for >cheap > > > and without much pain. The yoga ball can be really really nice >for > > > your butt and thighs too, so it can come in handy, but almost > > > anything you do on it relates to building your core >(abdominals) > > > because of the way it requires you to balance on it. Be >causious of > > > your lower back, that is my only warning. Go slow on it and be > > > cautious of some moves that might put allot of strain on the >lower > > > back. The reason I think this happens at first is because if >your abs > > > are weak it makes sense your back would pick up the slack at >first > > > until the abs get stronger. > > > Anyhow hopefully these ideas will help you. I know that my abs >are > > > supposed to be very strong and "amazing" under all the skin >according > > > to Dr Feng who I asked about a tummy tuck when I was there and >she > > > said i was a perfect candidate for a tummy tuck once I got well >from > > > implants, but she is pricey and to go there for a tummy tuck >would be > > > hard, i mean it is a big surgery, scares me, I would trust her >but I > > > have no idea how I could afford 2 weeks in Ohio so I doubt I >will do > > > it unless I somehow inherit a fortune ha ha. > > > in the meantime I just have to do things the old fashioned way >ya know > > > > > > hope this helps honey, and maybe you will eventually need some > > > hormones, I would look into the bio identicals if possible. > > > hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In > <mailto: >, " >mikat828" <mikat828@y<mailto:mikat828@y>...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for the input carrie. Can you suggest some things for >me to > > > > do? Also, I am bummed about the stomach issue. I pretty >much > > > thought > > > > along time ago I would have to have a tummy tuck just because >of the > > > > scar and stretch marks. But this other stuff has just >happened > > > > lately. It seems like it can be a symptom of irritable bowel, > > > > menopause,ovarian cancer, and even scleroderma ( of which I >feel I > > > > have issues with) So it is just a little scary. No alot >scary. I > > > > made an appt in the middle of october to see a doctor---oh, >how I > > > hate > > > > to do that!-that specializes in peri and post menopausal >women. So > > > I > > > > think she will tell me if she thinks I should check further. >In the > > > > meantime, I want to do whatever I can to make the muscles in >my > > > > abdomen stronger, so suggest away. I think I must be getting >close > > > to > > > > menopause--my periods are still regular but I swear my >emotions are > > > > all over the place. I cry when I read the paper, practically >if > > > > someone looks at me the wrong way! ANd it is getting >worse!! And > > > it > > > > seems like I have pms all month. Sometimes I hate being a >woman. I > > > > really think we got a raw deal!! And my symptoms are >definitely > > > > getting worse lately. Apparently this time in our lives can >make > > > any > > > > chronic condition worse. Lovely. I sure could use some >prayers. > > > Thanks > > > > Blessings, kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanted to give a little plug for the tanita > > > > > > > > > > weight scale they have at my work. It is pricey >but > > > really > > > > > > > > cool, > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > tells you your weight, body fat percent,BMI, >your > > > water > > > > > > > > > percentage, > > > > > > > > > > how many calories you burn a day and how much >you > > > should > > > > > > eat > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > maintain your wegiht. It was interesting I tell >ya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >