Re: Kathy just a few thoughts/read this sweetie/

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and others

My exercise and my looks are extremely important to me and always

have been and that is not a bad thing in my opnion. But yes, when it

came down to big breasts or health, hell there was no competition

there, the choice was as easy as can be. I did not care how I looked

in a damn tank top compared to feeling good. However, my looks were

not ever pushed to the way side either, had they been I would have

just gone to my old PS who would have removed the implant and capsule

for free and then later if he felt it was safe at some point would

have done the lift. So no matter what anyone says, our looks still

matter to us even when we are ill. I mean I did not want to look like

crap after explant, I am sure that is also why you did not want

a lolipop lift because you still cared about your breasts and maybe

your nipples were more of a concern cause your young and want babies

too. However I want to make it very very clear that my working out

and all that is not just about my looks or being as tiny as I can be.

For me it was a goal that i strived hard for, I learned as much as I

could about fitness and opted to get into the shape of my life. My

goal was 16% body fat and that is something that I worked on for the

last 2 or 3 years to obtain. It is a healthy thing for an athletic

woman of my age to be as low as 14% if that is made up of muscle and

not just skin and bones. There is a big difference of someone who

weighs 90 pounds and has a body fat of 16% and someone like me who is

a solid 120 pounds at 5'3 " tall that is a good solid amount of

weight, but only 20 pounds of it is fat. I longed to be in that shape

for years and have acheived it and feel really good about how I look.

I know that maybe this is not everyones goal or desire but for me it

was important and in some ways I think it was a revenge against the

big boob look i had longed for, it is my way of saying screw you to

that image of myself with big fake breasts. I can look in the mirror

now and be extremely proud of myself with my small muscular body,

even if I have hardly and breasts at all I don't care, I would take

this lean me over that fake breasted me any day.

I also don't feel totally against plastic surgery as some may and

some day if the need should arise I would def do some procedure to

keep things firm tight whatever. Right now I feel I look damn good

and to me looking good has a positive affect on my health. It really

truly does help me feel better. I am not against getting a nose job

if that is what it takes to make someone feel good about themselves,

or a face lift if it came down to it, something like that, even the

tummy tuck if I could only afford to go to Dr Feng for it I would be

there in a second. I am afraid to go to a cheap Dr for fear of the

resulsts so maybe someday when or if I can afford it I may go back to

Feng for that procedure. Ya never know.

however my point in this post was merely to say that I truly believe

in fitness for your health as much as your self confidence. I mean I

have NEVER FELT BETTER ABOUT MYSELF as I do right now. That is worth

allot to me. Lets face it, we still care how we look, we all got

implants to be better or to feel better, that for me did not ever

stop, but fitness is beyond looks. It is a whole relm of things, it

is about being healthy, living long, motivating others around me that

they too can do it. Not to brag but there are about 3 or 4 different

girls at my work who have lost weight from working out and diet not

just surgery, who have come and told me I was their inspiration, that

is a good feeling. I love to see others reach their fitness goals, it

is a fantastic feeling and I will never stop caring about my looks or

health. I feel this way and will always be who I am. There is no

reason that we have to let our bodies go because we are getting

older. Has anyone here heard of Charo? She is said to possibly be 60

years old(yes I think she has implants too) she is amazing, she is

absolutley stunning and in the best shape you can imagine, she amazes

me, I am sure there is some work done too, but her legs, well you

just don't make legs like that, they are the work of dancing working

out etc. That is how I want to be, fit in my 50's and 60's and as far

beyond as I can be.

to me fitness is a way of life that is more encompassing that just

looking good or fitting in a size 1.

hugs

In , " JOSEPH PALANCA " <juliejp61@m...>

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> kathy, I agree-health should come first. I wouldn't worry too much

about it, and just start doing some more stomach workouts, like get

one of the " Firm " tapes for just the abdoman, I think mine is 25 min

long. I do it three times per week. See how much it helps.

> My main problem in the first place, was harsh expectations on my

appearance. it was all about being my best and I did whatever I could

to get there,. Starving myself ,getting implants, working out 2 hours

a day...It has taken me to get to this point of being so ill, I have

let go of it and like you said put health first. I promised God that

I would appreciate the real me more, and the body he gave me ,

imperfections and all- if I could get my health back. I really

pleaded. I actually had to get counseling for this, for obsessive

body image, you could say, and actually was told to stop working out

for a month, and when I did go back I had to tell myself- everyday

when I work out, I had a limit- 45 min, and it is for my health

first. if I start looking better, it is a plus. It was too

discouraging to be so ill, and not lose weight.

> I am so happy now! heavier than I ever thought Id be (my God Im 5'7

and wear a size 11 now) but ok with it, as I have to get better. And

I am loved, by God and my hubby skinny or not. Looking at all our

little imperfections, is just silly to me, and too time consuming. I

do workout, but let go of the rest. Love you,

> Re: Kathy just a few thoughts/read this

sweetie

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> Thanks for the advice. I am definitely going to get rolling on

some

> simple exercises and work my way up slowly. Some day I might

look at

> the tummy tuck also. But I am afraid to have another surgery at

this

> point. I have heard people who have immune illnesses say that

some

> times surgeries make their progress go backward. I want to be

more

> confident of my wellness first. Health before beauty!

> I have some questions for anyone reading this post. Has anybody

tried

> the product called Clear from Awareness corp. I ordered it

probably 2

> years ago and never used it. Or how about Paragone? The curezone

> site seems to like paragone. I am really thinking about doing a

> parasite cleanse but am afraid of some of the ingredients. I hear

> that wormwood can be quite toxic. It is so confusing when trying

> products because someone will say it is great then someone else

says

> it doesn't work at all and you dont know what to think. I have

alot

> of products that I have neveer or seldom used because I had a

> reaction--most likely a herx--to it. I still can't even work my

nerve

> up to do a liver cleanse. I am afraid of the epsom salts being

too

> much for me. What ever happened to the idea of people posting

things

> they tried that they thought helped? I think this is a great

idea. I

> also think it would be a great idea to list the things people

tried

> that didn't help. I would be willing to help compile the list

but I

> am not too brilliant at knowing how to display things on a

computer.

> Hugs, kathy

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> naturalbeauty38@y<mailto:naturalbeauty38@y>...> wrote:

> > Kathy,

> > the biggest thing you can do for your abdominal area esp at

your age

> > (not saying your old) just that at 50 it wil require more work

then

> > at 30 ya know what I mean, for me I think core stregnthening is

where

> > it is at. The core is your entire abdominal area and it really

is

> > imperative that you find things that will stregnthen it, the

good

> > news! It does not require allot of money or expensive machines,

goody

> > right?

> > I would go out and invest in two things, a pilates tape, get a

nice

> > beginner one, Austin has one that is two workouts each

30

> > minutes long, all about toning and stregnthening the core, it

also is

> > a bit of yoga so very relaxing and probably not too hard on

your fms.

> > The second thing I would get is a good yoga ball. Go to a

sporting

> > goods store and try to find one for your height. You will need

to

> > inflate it so if you don't have a little bike tire inflater,

ask the

> > store if they have one, the ones the balls come with are very

hard to

> > fill the darned things up with, unless of course you have a big

> > strong hubby like mine hee hee. He blew mine up with that

crappy lil

> > pump mine came with. They come with a sheet of workouts that

are

> > pretty core related, but you may need to buy a little book that

has

> > more core exercises in it too. I know of one on line for only 9

> > bucks. These two things will get your abs as fit as you can for

cheap

> > and without much pain. The yoga ball can be really really nice

for

> > your butt and thighs too, so it can come in handy, but almost

> > anything you do on it relates to building your core

(abdominals)

> > because of the way it requires you to balance on it. Be

causious of

> > your lower back, that is my only warning. Go slow on it and be

> > cautious of some moves that might put allot of strain on the

lower

> > back. The reason I think this happens at first is because if

your abs

> > are weak it makes sense your back would pick up the slack at

first

> > until the abs get stronger.

> > Anyhow hopefully these ideas will help you. I know that my abs

are

> > supposed to be very strong and " amazing " under all the skin

according

> > to Dr Feng who I asked about a tummy tuck when I was there and

she

> > said i was a perfect candidate for a tummy tuck once I got well

from

> > implants, but she is pricey and to go there for a tummy tuck

would be

> > hard, i mean it is a big surgery, scares me, I would trust her

but I

> > have no idea how I could afford 2 weeks in Ohio so I doubt I

will do

> > it unless I somehow inherit a fortune ha ha.

> > in the meantime I just have to do things the old fashioned way

ya know

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> > hope this helps honey, and maybe you will eventually need some

> > hormones, I would look into the bio identicals if possible.

> > hugs

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mikat828 " <mikat828@y<mailto:mikat828@y>...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Thanks for the input carrie. Can you suggest some things for

me to

> > > do? Also, I am bummed about the stomach issue. I pretty

much

> > thought

> > > along time ago I would have to have a tummy tuck just because

of the

> > > scar and stretch marks. But this other stuff has just

happened

> > > lately. It seems like it can be a symptom of irritable bowel,

> > > menopause,ovarian cancer, and even scleroderma ( of which I

feel I

> > > have issues with) So it is just a little scary. No alot

scary. I

> > > made an appt in the middle of october to see a doctor---oh,

how I

> > hate

> > > to do that!-that specializes in peri and post menopausal

women. So

> > I

> > > think she will tell me if she thinks I should check further.

In the

> > > meantime, I want to do whatever I can to make the muscles in

my

> > > abdomen stronger, so suggest away. I think I must be getting

close

> > to

> > > menopause--my periods are still regular but I swear my

emotions are

> > > all over the place. I cry when I read the paper, practically

if

> > > someone looks at me the wrong way! ANd it is getting

worse!! And

> > it

> > > seems like I have pms all month. Sometimes I hate being a

woman. I

> > > really think we got a raw deal!! And my symptoms are

definitely

> > > getting worse lately. Apparently this time in our lives can

make

> > any

> > > chronic condition worse. Lovely. I sure could use some

prayers.

> > Thanks

> > > Blessings, kathy

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> > > > > > > > I wanted to give a little plug for the tanita

> > > > > > > > > weight scale they have at my work. It is pricey

but

> > really

> > > > > > > cool,

> > > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > tells you your weight, body fat percent,BMI,

your

> > water

> > > > > > > > percentage,

> > > > > > > > > how many calories you burn a day and how much

you

> > should

> > > > > eat

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > maintain your wegiht. It was interesting I tell

ya.

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