Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I received an off list comment saying that the ND school was developing a ‘lab course for acupuncturists’ and that the DC to ND program at NCNM has been tabled. Here is my response. Note the language of ‘related therapeutic methods’……now if that isn’t open for anything and everything I don’t know what is. s. fuchs dc It doesn’t surprise me that they would develop a course for this as they have an Acu school within them. They are in the business to make money so no surprise to capitalize at every turn. Here is their law and the answer is yes, if interpreted correctly, laboratory use is a ‘modern technique of diagnosis and evaluation’: ACUPUNCTURISTS 677.757 Definitions for ORS 677.757 to 677.770. As used in ORS 677.757 to 677.770: (1)(a) " Acupuncture " means an Oriental health care practice used to promote health and to treat neurological, organic or functional disorders by the stimulation of specific points on the surface of the body by the insertion of needles. " Acupuncture " includes the treatment method of moxibustion, as well as the use of electrical, thermal, mechanical or magnetic devices, with or without needles, to stimulate acupuncture points and acupuncture meridians and to induce acupuncture anesthesia or analgesia. ( The practice of acupuncture also includes the following modalities as authorized by the Oregon Medical Board: (A) Traditional and modern techniques of diagnosis and evaluation; ( Oriental massage, exercise and related therapeutic methods; and © The use of Oriental pharmacopoeia, vitamins, minerals and dietary advice. (2) " Oriental pharmacopoeia " means a list of herbs described in traditional Oriental texts commonly used in accredited schools of Oriental medicine if the texts are approved by the Oregon Medical Board. [1993 c.378 §1] I doubt many DCs have the time or interest to become an ND so it probably died for lack of participation. The NDs have little but disdain for us and cherry picking what they want. We boxed ourselves into a corner long ago. What is happening in Texas is just the beginning. The Acus don’t care for us either. I was at the same meeting. They only want our clout. Period. Nothing else. –s- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Correction: They only want the OCA and all of their heavy, heavy, heavy lifting. s. fuchs dc From: Sharron Fuchs Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:14 AM Subject: FW: 'nourish your kidney essence' I received an off list comment saying that the ND school was developing a ‘lab course for acupuncturists’ and that the DC to ND program at NCNM has been tabled. Here is my response. Note the language of ‘related therapeutic methods’……now if that isn’t open for anything and everything I don’t know what is. s. fuchs dc It doesn’t surprise me that they would develop a course for this as they have an Acu school within them. They are in the business to make money so no surprise to capitalize at every turn. Here is their law and the answer is yes, if interpreted correctly, laboratory use is a ‘modern technique of diagnosis and evaluation’: ACUPUNCTURISTS 677.757 Definitions for ORS 677.757 to 677.770. As used in ORS 677.757 to 677.770: (1)(a) " Acupuncture " means an Oriental health care practice used to promote health and to treat neurological, organic or functional disorders by the stimulation of specific points on the surface of the body by the insertion of needles. " Acupuncture " includes the treatment method of moxibustion, as well as the use of electrical, thermal, mechanical or magnetic devices, with or without needles, to stimulate acupuncture points and acupuncture meridians and to induce acupuncture anesthesia or analgesia. ( The practice of acupuncture also includes the following modalities as authorized by the Oregon Medical Board: (A) Traditional and modern techniques of diagnosis and evaluation; ( Oriental massage, exercise and related therapeutic methods; and © The use of Oriental pharmacopoeia, vitamins, minerals and dietary advice. (2) " Oriental pharmacopoeia " means a list of herbs described in traditional Oriental texts commonly used in accredited schools of Oriental medicine if the texts are approved by the Oregon Medical Board. [1993 c.378 §1] I doubt many DCs have the time or interest to become an ND so it probably died for lack of participation. The NDs have little but disdain for us and cherry picking what they want. We boxed ourselves into a corner long ago. What is happening in Texas is just the beginning. The Acus don’t care for us either. I was at the same meeting. They only want our clout. Period. Nothing else. –s- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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