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In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation has been taken over by raw milk

faddists and has little to do with Weston A. Price. Also, in my opinion, cow's

milk in any form is suitable only for baby cows, and certainly not for adult

humans.

I am 59 and I have never had a cavity.

The high sugar content of cow's milk can actually trigger the growth of bacteria

that may cause cavities.

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Dairy is causing diabetes type 1 in children who are genetically predisposed to

developing it.

http://chetday.com/type1diabetescowmilk.htm

the process described here:

http://newstart.com/disorder.php?action=diabetes_type_1

 

When a baby is born it has a weak immature immune system. So God has designed a

special way to protect the baby from all of the threats from different bacteria

and viruses in its environment. Mother has lived in this environment for many

years and she has been exposed to lots of different bacteria and viruses. Her

immune system has identified them and made antibodies against them. These

antibodies are special protein molecules that are coded for a specific part of a

virus or bacteria. If mother is ever exposed the same virus again these

previously coded antibodies identify the enemy immediately and it is destroyed

before it can spread and cause an infection. We say that she is now immune to

this virus.

 

So how does this help her new baby? Her body packages a supply of these

antibodies in her breast milk. When the baby nurses it receives a supply of

these antibodies in the mother’s milk. Remember that these antibodies are made

of protein. What normally happens to protein when it is eaten? When it reaches

the stomach it is digested. That means that stomach acid and various enzymes cut

up the protein into hundreds of little pieces we call amino acids. These little

amino acids are then absorbed through the intestines into the blood and can be

used by the body to make new proteins. So why doesn’t the baby just digest

these protein antibodies? Because mother has packaged them in special little

packages in the milk so that they cannot be digested. These little packages of

antibodies pass through the stomach undigested and are absorbed through the

intestinal wall intact and release their whole intact antibodies into the

baby’s blood.

 

Now the baby is immune to whatever Mom was immune to. A very nice arrangement!

So what's the problem? We are not baby cows! Mother cow packages her proteins

for her baby calf and then we feed this milk to our children. Now we are

releasing whole intact cow proteins into our children's blood. As our children

grow and their immune systems mature the day comes when they recognize that

these cow proteins don't belong in the human body and so they start to make

antibodies against them. They become allergic to cow's milk. Ask an allergist

what is the most common allergy in humans and they will tell you it is dairy

products.

How can this cause type 1 diabetes? Some children inherit a trait where their

beta cells make certain proteins on their surfaces that are very similar to

certain proteins found in cow's milk. This cow protein has been identified and

it is found in about 80% of the dairy herds. The problem is that if they become

allergic to this cow protein then because it is so similar these antibodies will

start attacking their beta cells and destroying them also. Research studies have

shown that all people with type 1 diabetes have developed high levels of this

particular antibody. And when most of the beta cells are gone these children

can't make enough insulin anymore and now they have type 1 diabetes.

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From: Eliot <ewcollins@...>

Longevity

Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:24 AM

Subject: Re: Video: Traditional Diets: Benefits of Raw Whole Milk?

 

In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation has been taken over by raw milk

faddists and has little to do with Weston A. Price. Also, in my opinion, cow's

milk in any form is suitable only for baby cows, and certainly not for adult

humans.

I am 59 and I have never had a cavity.

The high sugar content of cow's milk can actually trigger the growth of bacteria

that may cause cavities.

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Very interesting information, thanks to all.

Question: Does this also mean NO yogurt made from cows milk? No non-fat milk at

all?

'Non-dairy' creamer in coffee? Thanks for the information.

 

Wayne

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> Very interesting information, thanks to all.

> Question: Does this also mean NO yogurt made from cows milk? No non-fat milk

at all?

>

> 'Non-dairy' creamer in coffee? Thanks for the information.

I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty of

energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be.

I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I

would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and

who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning

caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms).

In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then knowing

what we know now, they would be illegal.

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Illegal?

Oh my dear god, what rock did you crawl out from?

Re: Video: Traditional Diets: Benefits of Raw Whole Milk?

>

> Very interesting information, thanks to all.

> Question: Does this also mean NO yogurt made from cows milk? No non-fat milk

at all?

>

> 'Non-dairy' creamer in coffee? Thanks for the information.

I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty of

energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be.

I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I

would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and

who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning

caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms).

In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then knowing

what we know now, they would be illegal.

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I am wondering how much you really know about the Weston A Price

organization and its members - I am a member and I have met most of the members

in the capital of Canada and yet have not met even one member whom is a 'raw

milk faddists' - or maybe we have totally different perceptions of exactly what

you mean by 'raw milk faddists'......... could you please be more specific in

what you mean exactly?

Shan

>

> In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation has been taken over by raw milk

faddists and has little to do with Weston A. Price. Also, in my opinion, cow's

milk in any form is suitable only for baby cows, and certainly not for adult

humans.

>

> I am 59 and I have never had a cavity.

>

> The high sugar content of cow's milk can actually trigger the growth of

bacteria that may cause cavities.

>

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This study was done using processed pasterurized milk - that is totally

different from 'real' milk and just as the effect of the body to commercial

salt and 'real' salt is totally different so too is the effect on the human body

of processed pasteurized milk and 'real' raw milk.

This is not unusual in my experiance either. And in my perception,more then

anyhing else studies like this are only the FDA's etc way of trying to convince

consumers to avoid natural healthy foods and instead consume processed foods

which are harmful to the human body.

blessings

Shan

>

> Dairy is causing diabetes type 1 in children who are genetically predisposed

to developing it.

> http://chetday.com/type1diabetescowmilk.htm

> the process described here:

> http://newstart.com/disorder.php?action=diabetes_type_1

>  

> When a baby is born it has a weak immature immune system. So God has designed

a special way to protect the baby from all of the threats from different

bacteria and viruses in its environment. Mother has lived in this environment

for many years and she has been exposed to lots of different bacteria and

viruses. Her immune system has identified them and made antibodies against them.

These antibodies are special protein molecules that are coded for a specific

part of a virus or bacteria. If mother is ever exposed the same virus again

these previously coded antibodies identify the enemy immediately and it is

destroyed before it can spread and cause an infection. We say that she is now

immune to this virus.

>  

> So how does this help her new baby? Her body packages a supply of these

antibodies in her breast milk. When the baby nurses it receives a supply of

these antibodies in the mother’s milk. Remember that these antibodies are made

of protein. What normally happens to protein when it is eaten? When it reaches

the stomach it is digested. That means that stomach acid and various enzymes cut

up the protein into hundreds of little pieces we call amino acids. These little

amino acids are then absorbed through the intestines into the blood and can be

used by the body to make new proteins. So why doesn’t the baby just digest

these protein antibodies? Because mother has packaged them in special little

packages in the milk so that they cannot be digested. These little packages of

antibodies pass through the stomach undigested and are absorbed through the

intestinal wall intact and release their whole intact antibodies into the

baby’s blood.

>  

> Now the baby is immune to whatever Mom was immune to. A very nice arrangement!

> So what's the problem? We are not baby cows! Mother cow packages her proteins

for her baby calf and then we feed this milk to our children. Now we are

releasing whole intact cow proteins into our children's blood. As our children

grow and their immune systems mature the day comes when they recognize that

these cow proteins don't belong in the human body and so they start to make

antibodies against them. They become allergic to cow's milk. Ask an allergist

what is the most common allergy in humans and they will tell you it is dairy

products.

> How can this cause type 1 diabetes? Some children inherit a trait where their

beta cells make certain proteins on their surfaces that are very similar to

certain proteins found in cow's milk. This cow protein has been identified and

it is found in about 80% of the dairy herds. The problem is that if they become

allergic to this cow protein then because it is so similar these antibodies will

start attacking their beta cells and destroying them also. Research studies have

shown that all people with type 1 diabetes have developed high levels of this

particular antibody. And when most of the beta cells are gone these children

can't make enough insulin anymore and now they have type 1 diabetes.

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Eliot <ewcollins@...>

> Longevity

> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:24 AM

> Subject: Re: Video: Traditional Diets: Benefits of Raw Whole Milk?

>

>

>  

> In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation has been taken over by raw milk

faddists and has little to do with Weston A. Price. Also, in my opinion, cow's

milk in any form is suitable only for baby cows, and certainly not for adult

humans.

>

> I am 59 and I have never had a cavity.

>

> The high sugar content of cow's milk can actually trigger the growth of

bacteria that may cause cavities.

>

>

>

>

>

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" I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty of

energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be.

I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I

would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and

who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning

caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms).

In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then knowing

what we know now, they would be illegal. "

The evidence seems to be building for quite the opposite:

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2012/jan2012_Discovering-Coffees-Unique-Health-Be\

nefits_01.htm 

I expect it will be one of those back and forth issues that runs for years.

Brgds,

A

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Well, I'm very glad you're not addicted to anything, and thanks for letting us

know your disdain for coffee drinkers.

The question was regarding the information about MILK products, and does eating

low/non-fat yogurt have the same negative results as including milk in the diet.

Thanks!

W

> >

> > Very interesting information, thanks to all.

> > Question: Does this also mean NO yogurt made from cows milk? No non-fat milk

at all?

> >

> > 'Non-dairy' creamer in coffee? Thanks for the information.

>

> I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty

of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be.

>

> I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I

would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and

who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning

caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms).

>

> In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then

knowing what we know now, they would be illegal.

>

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Addicts of all types are often in denial, and defensive about their addiction as

well.

> I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty

of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be.

>

> I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I

would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and

who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning

caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms).

>

> In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then

knowing what we know now, they would be illegal.

>

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In the interest of my longevity, I will not drink milk, nor will I drink coffee

(either with or witout milk).

>

> I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty

of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be.

>

> I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I

would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and

who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning

caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms).

>

> In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then

knowing what we know now, they would be illegal.

>

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Weston A. Price died in 1948. The Weston A. Price Foundation was founded over 50

years later. Mr. Price was not involved at all. I wonder if a Deen is a

member. In any event, I would not drink milk, raw or otherwise.

>

> In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation has been taken over by raw milk

faddists and has little to do with Weston A. Price. Also, in my opinion, cow's

milk in any form is suitable only for baby cows, and certainly not for adult

humans.

>

> I am 59 and I have never had a cavity.

>

> The high sugar content of cow's milk can actually trigger the growth of

bacteria that may cause cavities.

>

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Eliot, don't be so narrow-minded, some people do well on dairy, if their

ancestors evolved on it. This woman lived till 114, and she was consuming

pasteurized dairy:

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/yourhealth/agingwell/article/727835--god-milk-an\

d-wine-add-up-to-114

________________________________

From: Eliot <ewcollins@...>

Longevity

Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:06 AM

Subject: Re: Video: Traditional Diets: Benefits of Raw Whole Milk?

 

In the interest of my longevity, I will not drink milk, nor will I drink coffee

(either with or witout milk).

>

> I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty

of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be.

>

> I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I

would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and

who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning

caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms).

>

> In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then

knowing what we know now, they would be illegal.

>

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Motivated Reasoning - We tend to seek out information that justifies what we are

already doing.

Confirmation Bias - A type of selective thinking whereby one tends to notice and

to look for what confirms one's beliefs, and to ignore, not look for, or

undervalue the relevance of what contradicts one's beliefs.

> >

> > I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty

of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be.

> >

> > I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that

I would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work,

and who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their

morning caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms).

> >

> > In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then

knowing what we know now, they would be illegal.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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