Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation has been taken over by raw milk faddists and has little to do with Weston A. Price. Also, in my opinion, cow's milk in any form is suitable only for baby cows, and certainly not for adult humans. I am 59 and I have never had a cavity. The high sugar content of cow's milk can actually trigger the growth of bacteria that may cause cavities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Dairy is causing diabetes type 1 in children who are genetically predisposed to developing it. http://chetday.com/type1diabetescowmilk.htm the process described here: http://newstart.com/disorder.php?action=diabetes_type_1  When a baby is born it has a weak immature immune system. So God has designed a special way to protect the baby from all of the threats from different bacteria and viruses in its environment. Mother has lived in this environment for many years and she has been exposed to lots of different bacteria and viruses. Her immune system has identified them and made antibodies against them. These antibodies are special protein molecules that are coded for a specific part of a virus or bacteria. If mother is ever exposed the same virus again these previously coded antibodies identify the enemy immediately and it is destroyed before it can spread and cause an infection. We say that she is now immune to this virus.  So how does this help her new baby? Her body packages a supply of these antibodies in her breast milk. When the baby nurses it receives a supply of these antibodies in the mother’s milk. Remember that these antibodies are made of protein. What normally happens to protein when it is eaten? When it reaches the stomach it is digested. That means that stomach acid and various enzymes cut up the protein into hundreds of little pieces we call amino acids. These little amino acids are then absorbed through the intestines into the blood and can be used by the body to make new proteins. So why doesn’t the baby just digest these protein antibodies? Because mother has packaged them in special little packages in the milk so that they cannot be digested. These little packages of antibodies pass through the stomach undigested and are absorbed through the intestinal wall intact and release their whole intact antibodies into the baby’s blood.  Now the baby is immune to whatever Mom was immune to. A very nice arrangement! So what's the problem? We are not baby cows! Mother cow packages her proteins for her baby calf and then we feed this milk to our children. Now we are releasing whole intact cow proteins into our children's blood. As our children grow and their immune systems mature the day comes when they recognize that these cow proteins don't belong in the human body and so they start to make antibodies against them. They become allergic to cow's milk. Ask an allergist what is the most common allergy in humans and they will tell you it is dairy products. How can this cause type 1 diabetes? Some children inherit a trait where their beta cells make certain proteins on their surfaces that are very similar to certain proteins found in cow's milk. This cow protein has been identified and it is found in about 80% of the dairy herds. The problem is that if they become allergic to this cow protein then because it is so similar these antibodies will start attacking their beta cells and destroying them also. Research studies have shown that all people with type 1 diabetes have developed high levels of this particular antibody. And when most of the beta cells are gone these children can't make enough insulin anymore and now they have type 1 diabetes. ________________________________ From: Eliot <ewcollins@...> Longevity Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:24 AM Subject: Re: Video: Traditional Diets: Benefits of Raw Whole Milk?  In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation has been taken over by raw milk faddists and has little to do with Weston A. Price. Also, in my opinion, cow's milk in any form is suitable only for baby cows, and certainly not for adult humans. I am 59 and I have never had a cavity. The high sugar content of cow's milk can actually trigger the growth of bacteria that may cause cavities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Very interesting information, thanks to all. Question: Does this also mean NO yogurt made from cows milk? No non-fat milk at all? 'Non-dairy' creamer in coffee? Thanks for the information. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 > > Very interesting information, thanks to all. > Question: Does this also mean NO yogurt made from cows milk? No non-fat milk at all? > > 'Non-dairy' creamer in coffee? Thanks for the information. I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be. I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms). In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then knowing what we know now, they would be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Illegal? Oh my dear god, what rock did you crawl out from? Re: Video: Traditional Diets: Benefits of Raw Whole Milk? > > Very interesting information, thanks to all. > Question: Does this also mean NO yogurt made from cows milk? No non-fat milk at all? > > 'Non-dairy' creamer in coffee? Thanks for the information. I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be. I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms). In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then knowing what we know now, they would be illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 I am wondering how much you really know about the Weston A Price organization and its members - I am a member and I have met most of the members in the capital of Canada and yet have not met even one member whom is a 'raw milk faddists' - or maybe we have totally different perceptions of exactly what you mean by 'raw milk faddists'......... could you please be more specific in what you mean exactly? Shan > > In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation has been taken over by raw milk faddists and has little to do with Weston A. Price. Also, in my opinion, cow's milk in any form is suitable only for baby cows, and certainly not for adult humans. > > I am 59 and I have never had a cavity. > > The high sugar content of cow's milk can actually trigger the growth of bacteria that may cause cavities. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 This study was done using processed pasterurized milk - that is totally different from 'real' milk and just as the effect of the body to commercial salt and 'real' salt is totally different so too is the effect on the human body of processed pasteurized milk and 'real' raw milk. This is not unusual in my experiance either. And in my perception,more then anyhing else studies like this are only the FDA's etc way of trying to convince consumers to avoid natural healthy foods and instead consume processed foods which are harmful to the human body. blessings Shan > > Dairy is causing diabetes type 1 in children who are genetically predisposed to developing it. > http://chetday.com/type1diabetescowmilk.htm > the process described here: > http://newstart.com/disorder.php?action=diabetes_type_1 >  > When a baby is born it has a weak immature immune system. So God has designed a special way to protect the baby from all of the threats from different bacteria and viruses in its environment. Mother has lived in this environment for many years and she has been exposed to lots of different bacteria and viruses. Her immune system has identified them and made antibodies against them. These antibodies are special protein molecules that are coded for a specific part of a virus or bacteria. If mother is ever exposed the same virus again these previously coded antibodies identify the enemy immediately and it is destroyed before it can spread and cause an infection. We say that she is now immune to this virus. >  > So how does this help her new baby? Her body packages a supply of these antibodies in her breast milk. When the baby nurses it receives a supply of these antibodies in the mother’s milk. Remember that these antibodies are made of protein. What normally happens to protein when it is eaten? When it reaches the stomach it is digested. That means that stomach acid and various enzymes cut up the protein into hundreds of little pieces we call amino acids. These little amino acids are then absorbed through the intestines into the blood and can be used by the body to make new proteins. So why doesn’t the baby just digest these protein antibodies? Because mother has packaged them in special little packages in the milk so that they cannot be digested. These little packages of antibodies pass through the stomach undigested and are absorbed through the intestinal wall intact and release their whole intact antibodies into the baby’s blood. >  > Now the baby is immune to whatever Mom was immune to. A very nice arrangement! > So what's the problem? We are not baby cows! Mother cow packages her proteins for her baby calf and then we feed this milk to our children. Now we are releasing whole intact cow proteins into our children's blood. As our children grow and their immune systems mature the day comes when they recognize that these cow proteins don't belong in the human body and so they start to make antibodies against them. They become allergic to cow's milk. Ask an allergist what is the most common allergy in humans and they will tell you it is dairy products. > How can this cause type 1 diabetes? Some children inherit a trait where their beta cells make certain proteins on their surfaces that are very similar to certain proteins found in cow's milk. This cow protein has been identified and it is found in about 80% of the dairy herds. The problem is that if they become allergic to this cow protein then because it is so similar these antibodies will start attacking their beta cells and destroying them also. Research studies have shown that all people with type 1 diabetes have developed high levels of this particular antibody. And when most of the beta cells are gone these children can't make enough insulin anymore and now they have type 1 diabetes. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Eliot <ewcollins@...> > Longevity > Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:24 AM > Subject: Re: Video: Traditional Diets: Benefits of Raw Whole Milk? > > >  > In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation has been taken over by raw milk faddists and has little to do with Weston A. Price. Also, in my opinion, cow's milk in any form is suitable only for baby cows, and certainly not for adult humans. > > I am 59 and I have never had a cavity. > > The high sugar content of cow's milk can actually trigger the growth of bacteria that may cause cavities. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 " I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be. I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms). In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then knowing what we know now, they would be illegal. " The evidence seems to be building for quite the opposite: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2012/jan2012_Discovering-Coffees-Unique-Health-Be\ nefits_01.htm I expect it will be one of those back and forth issues that runs for years. Brgds, A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Well, I'm very glad you're not addicted to anything, and thanks for letting us know your disdain for coffee drinkers. The question was regarding the information about MILK products, and does eating low/non-fat yogurt have the same negative results as including milk in the diet. Thanks! W > > > > Very interesting information, thanks to all. > > Question: Does this also mean NO yogurt made from cows milk? No non-fat milk at all? > > > > 'Non-dairy' creamer in coffee? Thanks for the information. > > I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be. > > I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms). > > In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then knowing what we know now, they would be illegal. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Addicts of all types are often in denial, and defensive about their addiction as well. > I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be. > > I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms). > > In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then knowing what we know now, they would be illegal. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 In the interest of my longevity, I will not drink milk, nor will I drink coffee (either with or witout milk). > > I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be. > > I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms). > > In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then knowing what we know now, they would be illegal. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Weston A. Price died in 1948. The Weston A. Price Foundation was founded over 50 years later. Mr. Price was not involved at all. I wonder if a Deen is a member. In any event, I would not drink milk, raw or otherwise. > > In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation has been taken over by raw milk faddists and has little to do with Weston A. Price. Also, in my opinion, cow's milk in any form is suitable only for baby cows, and certainly not for adult humans. > > I am 59 and I have never had a cavity. > > The high sugar content of cow's milk can actually trigger the growth of bacteria that may cause cavities. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Eliot, don't be so narrow-minded, some people do well on dairy, if their ancestors evolved on it. This woman lived till 114, and she was consuming pasteurized dairy: http://www.healthzone.ca/health/yourhealth/agingwell/article/727835--god-milk-an\ d-wine-add-up-to-114 ________________________________ From: Eliot <ewcollins@...> Longevity Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Video: Traditional Diets: Benefits of Raw Whole Milk? Â In the interest of my longevity, I will not drink milk, nor will I drink coffee (either with or witout milk). > > I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be. > > I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms). > > In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then knowing what we know now, they would be illegal. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Motivated Reasoning - We tend to seek out information that justifies what we are already doing. Confirmation Bias - A type of selective thinking whereby one tends to notice and to look for what confirms one's beliefs, and to ignore, not look for, or undervalue the relevance of what contradicts one's beliefs. > > > > I never drink coffee. I generally avoid caffeine in all forms. I have plenty of energy and I am as wide awake as I want to be. > > > > I have seen caffeine (coffee) addiction in others and it is not a habit that I would want to acquire. I know coffee drinkers who are unable to do any work, and who are difficult for anyone else to work with until they have had their morning caffeine. They even get a headache without it (withdrawl symptoms). > > > > In my opinion, if caffeine / coffee was just discovered / invented, then knowing what we know now, they would be illegal. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.