Probiotics

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We use CP1 also, twice a day, but have also found threelac to be excellent.

Vicky

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We use CP1 now - we used to use bio-acidophilus forte, but now we give 2 CP1s twice a day

Seems to be good

For a 5 year old and recommended by a well known DAN...

Autism Treatment From: helencole04@...Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:13:48 +0000Subject: Probiotics

Hi,Can anyone please recommend a good probiotic that's suitable for a 4 year old? I looked at Custom Probiotic CP1 but it says it's an adult formula so not sure if I would be giving too much. ThanksHelen

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Hi Helen,

I started with Bio-Kult on my then 2 year old son.  (1/2 a capsule in the am) we also used Super Nu Thera and bio-acidophilus when he was two with no adverse effects, I'm sure they are fine for a 4 year old.  I think with things as benign as probios if they say it's for adults then it's to cover their backs for legal reasons.

 

Even medications given to children on the NHS are not approved for children - it isn't ethical to test on children so they aren't approved for them.

On 26 February 2010 16:13, helencole04 <helencole04@...> wrote:

 

Hi,Can anyone please recommend a good probiotic that's suitable for a 4 year old? I looked at Custom Probiotic CP1 but it says it's an adult formula so not sure if I would be giving too much. Thanks

Helen

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Hi I use CP1 for my 4 year old and have been for a over a year now, they are in my opinion (i know others would agree) the rolls royce of probiotics, he takes 1 in the morning and 1 at night. xAutism Treatment From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:31:42 -0500Subject: Re: Probiotics

In a message dated 26/02/2010 18:10:21 GMT Standard Time, helencole04googlemail writes:

Can anyone please recommend a good probiotic that's suitable for a 4 year old? I looked at Custom Probiotic CP1 but it says it's an adult formula so not sure if I would be giving too much.

>>Most folks using CP1 are giving it to children because these kids guts are in such a state they need higher count products. I would start on 1/4 cap though and work your way up slowly as you may see some die off symptoms

HTH

Mandi x

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The only question I have is that the Genova stool tests show 3 beneficial

bacteria required:

Lactobacillus

Escherichia Coli

Bifidobacterium

CP1 and bio-acidophilus forte both have 2 of them, (CP1 being 3 times the

quantity of viable cells), but neither appears to contain the escherichia Coli,

which apparantly makes K2 according to Wikpedia

Do we need to supplement escherichia coli (making sure it is not the E Coli

strain)

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We switched from Pro Bio Gold to CP1 and I'm glad we did. I feel that the Pro Bio Gold wasn't enough and that our son is doing much better on the CP1. :-)From: michelle lacey <michelle0471@...>Subject: RE: Probiotics Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 6:59 AM

Hi I use CP1 for my 4 year old and have been for a over a year now, they are in my opinion (i know others would agree) the rolls royce of probiotics, he takes 1 in the morning and 1 at night. xAutism-Biomedical- Europe@grou ps.comFrom: Mum231ASDaol (DOT) comDate: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:31:42 -0500Subject: Re: Probiotics

In a message dated 26/02/2010 18:10:21 GMT Standard Time, helencole04@ googlemail. com writes:

Can anyone please recommend a good probiotic that's suitable for a 4 year old? I looked at Custom Probiotic CP1 but it says it's an adult formula so not sure if I would be giving too much.

>>Most folks using CP1 are giving it to children because these kids guts are in such a state they need higher count products. I would start on 1/4 cap though and work your way up slowly as you may see some die off symptoms

HTH

Mandi x

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Hello Georgina,

WE've been using Klaire Lab Therbiotic Complete..in the last couple of years.In

my son's test results, it showed that the good bacterias have increased,so I am

happy with this one.I opened the capsules and mix it with liquid.The Nutri

Centre in London is a distributor of Klaire Lab.

All the best

Nevin

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Hi NevinCan you please tell me whether you have been giving Therbiotic on an empty stomach or with food? I had been giving on an empty stomach but Dr McCandless said this one needed to be taken with food at the start of a meal as it only worked in combination with gastric juices.Autism Treatment From: Nevin.Penny@...Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:54:27 +0000Subject: Re: Probiotics

Hello Georgina,

WE've been using Klaire Lab Therbiotic Complete..in the last couple of years.In my son's test results, it showed that the good bacterias have increased,so I am happy with this one.I opened the capsules and mix it with liquid.The Nutri Centre in London is a distributor of Klaire Lab.

All the best

Nevin

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E. coli  is available in the commercial strain E.coli Nissle  -  marketed as  " Mutaflor " .

 

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The only question I have is that the Genova stool tests show 3 beneficial bacteria required:Lactobacillus

Escherichia ColiBifidobacteriumCP1 and bio-acidophilus forte both have 2 of them, (CP1 being 3 times the quantity of viable cells), but neither appears to contain the escherichia Coli, which apparantly makes K2 according to Wikpedia

Do we need to supplement escherichia coli (making sure it is not the E Coli strain)

>>> Hi>> I use CP1 for my 4 year old and have been for a over a year now, they are in my opinion (i know others would agree) the rolls royce of probiotics, he takes 1 in the morning and 1 at night.

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>   looked at Custom Probiotic CP1 but it says it's an adult formula so not sure>   if I would be giving too much.>>> >>Most folks using CP1 are giving it to children because these kids

> guts are in such a state they need higher count products. I would start on 1/4> cap though and work your way up slowly as you may see some die off> symptoms>> HTH>> Mandi x

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Hi

We use cutom probiotics 1 from Mandi Mart.

Hope that helps

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Autism Treatment From: lucy_hutson@...Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:10:15 +0000Subject: Probiotics

Hi, I'm interested in trying probiotics on my 3 year old son as he has a very bloated belly. Can anyone recommend one from the UK and where I can get it from.Thank you.Lucy

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We recommend a lot of the Greek Yogurts for the live active cultures. For those

who do not like greek yogurt, we usually suggest Culturelle Probiotics. We've

had great results with both!

Northrop Keeley, RD, LD

Registered Dietitian

Bariatric Surgery Program

Maine Medical Center

12 Andover Road

Portland, Maine 04102

(207) 761-5612 (Ext: 211)

**My hours are Mon.-Thurs. 8-4pm and Fri. 8-12pm. If you need assistance

outside these hours, please contact the front desk at 207-761-5612.

>>> " Bizzarro, A Civ USAF AFMC 88 DTS/SGQD "

<melissa.bizzarro@...> 10/5/2010 2:49 PM >>>

Hello all,

Is anyone recommending their patients take probiotics after their

surgery? I saw one study that stated improved weight loss outcomes

with the addition of probiotics. If so, which probiotics do you

recommend (Align? ) Anyone know of any other studies or have any

insight on this?

Thanks

Missy Bizzarro RD, LD

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i just encourage the use of activia light along with other yogurts :)i only see them in the hospital so im not sure what they recommend at their follow up

Miceli MA, RD, LDNSouthern Surgical HospitalSlidell, La985-445-7282 (cell)985-661-2146 (work)

From: "Bizzarro, A Civ USAF AFMC 88 DTS/SGQD" <melissa.bizzarro@...> Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 1:49:51 PMSubject: probiotics

Hello all,

Is anyone recommending their patients take probiotics after their surgery? I saw one study that stated improved weight loss outcomes with the addition of probiotics. If so, which probiotics do you recommend (Align? ) Anyone know of any other studies or have any insight on this?

Thanks

Missy Bizzarro RD, LD

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Thanks all for your help! Besides the few studies that show improved

weight loss and increased B12 what other benefits from probiotics do you

tell your patients?

Re: probiotics

We recommend a lot of the Greek Yogurts for the live active cultures.

For those who do not like greek yogurt, we usually suggest Culturelle

Probiotics. We've had great results with both!

Northrop Keeley, RD, LD

Registered Dietitian

Bariatric Surgery Program

Maine Medical Center

12 Andover Road

Portland, Maine 04102

(207) 761-5612 (Ext: 211)

**My hours are Mon.-Thurs. 8-4pm and Fri. 8-12pm. If you need assistance

outside these hours, please contact the front desk at 207-761-5612.

>>> " Bizzarro, A Civ USAF AFMC 88 DTS/SGQD "

<melissa.bizzarro@... <mailto:melissa.bizzarro%40wpafb.af.mil>

> 10/5/2010 2:49 PM >>>

Hello all,

Is anyone recommending their patients take probiotics after their

surgery? I saw one study that stated improved weight loss outcomes

with the addition of probiotics. If so, which probiotics do you

recommend (Align? ) Anyone know of any other studies or have any

insight on this?

Thanks

Missy Bizzarro RD, LD

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I have been recommending them more now since I had a number of pts have

good results with probiotics reducing gassiness/odor. We usually

recommend floragen 3, or I at least tell them to get one with

acidophilus AND bifidobacterium species combination.

Diane Olson MS RD CDE

UW Health Bariatric Surgery Program

University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics

(608) 265-1718

dolson3@...

Re: probiotics

We recommend a lot of the Greek Yogurts for the live active cultures.

For those who do not like greek yogurt, we usually suggest Culturelle

Probiotics. We've had great results with both!

Northrop Keeley, RD, LD

Registered Dietitian

Bariatric Surgery Program

Maine Medical Center

12 Andover Road

Portland, Maine 04102

(207) 761-5612 (Ext: 211)

**My hours are Mon.-Thurs. 8-4pm and Fri. 8-12pm. If you need assistance

outside these hours, please contact the front desk at 207-761-5612.

>>> " Bizzarro, A Civ USAF AFMC 88 DTS/SGQD "

<melissa.bizzarro@... <mailto:melissa.bizzarro%40wpafb.af.mil>

> 10/5/2010 2:49 PM >>>

Hello all,

Is anyone recommending their patients take probiotics after their

surgery? I saw one study that stated improved weight loss outcomes with

the addition of probiotics. If so, which probiotics do you recommend

(Align? ) Anyone know of any other studies or have any insight on this?

Thanks

Missy Bizzarro RD, LD

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RD411.com has some pt ed handouts that help to explain probiotics among other things for gastric bypass pts. (I attached two of them as an example). VSL3 is a probiotic used by many with all types of GI concerns with success.From: "Bizzarro, A Civ USAF AFMC 88 DTS/SGQD" <melissa.bizzarro@...> Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 3:22:32 PMSubject: RE: probiotics

Thanks all for your help! Besides the few studies that show improved

weight loss and increased B12 what other benefits from probiotics do you

tell your patients?

Re: probiotics

We recommend a lot of the Greek Yogurts for the live active cultures.

For those who do not like greek yogurt, we usually suggest Culturelle

Probiotics. We've had great results with both!

Northrop Keeley, RD, LD

Registered Dietitian

Bariatric Surgery Program

Maine Medical Center

12 Andover Road

Portland, Maine 04102

(207) 761-5612 (Ext: 211)

**My hours are Mon.-Thurs. 8-4pm and Fri. 8-12pm. If you need assistance

outside these hours, please contact the front desk at 207-761-5612.

>>> "Bizzarro, A Civ USAF AFMC 88 DTS/SGQD"

<melissa.bizzarro@... <mailto:melissa.bizzarro%40wpafb.af.mil>

> 10/5/2010 2:49 PM >>>

Hello all,

Is anyone recommending their patients take probiotics after their

surgery? I saw one study that stated improved weight loss outcomes

with the addition of probiotics. If so, which probiotics do you

recommend (Align? ) Anyone know of any other studies or have any

insight on this?

Thanks

Missy Bizzarro RD, LD

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I typically recommend Essential1: Digestive Health as it has acidophilis, bifidus, lactobacillus bulgaricus, and FOS. The benefits to our patients (according to them) include reduced gassiness, relief of/assistance with constipation/diarrhea, better lactose tolerance (because this product also comes with a digestive enzyme)............. and of course a better balanced gut flora helps support immune function.Hope this helps!Tammy Hutchisen RD, LDN, C-PTMid-land BariatricsFrederick, MDFrom: Bizzarro, A Civ

USAF AFMC 88 DTS/SGQD <melissa.bizzarro@...>Subject: probiotics Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 2:49 PM

Hello all, Is anyone recommending their patients take probiotics after

their surgery? I saw one study that stated improved weight loss outcomes

with the addition of probiotics. If so, which probiotics do you recommend (Align?

) Anyone know of any other studies or have any insight on this? Thanks Missy Bizzarro RD, LD

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Hi Sue,

We often gave probios with something small to take the taste away and they were

still effective.

A warmish (but not too warm) temperature should be OK ... I'm thinking that we

make yoghurt in a yoghurt maker that is just a warm pot.

Best wishes, Sandy

>

> Hi everyone,

> Would someone please tell me if it is OK to give my Ds his probiotics in a

small amount of warm rice-milk at bedtime. I know ideally they should be given

on an empty stomach so will they still work? Also, because the milk is warm will

this be a problem?

> Many thanks. Sue

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Hi Sue,

We often gave probios with something small to take the taste away and they were

still effective.

A warmish (but not too warm) temperature should be OK ... I'm thinking that we

make yoghurt in a yoghurt maker that is just a warm pot.

Best wishes, Sandy

>

> Hi everyone,

> Would someone please tell me if it is OK to give my Ds his probiotics in a

small amount of warm rice-milk at bedtime. I know ideally they should be given

on an empty stomach so will they still work? Also, because the milk is warm will

this be a problem?

> Many thanks. Sue

>

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Hi Janet

I've got a good book called 'Probiotics, Nature's Internal Healers' by Natasha

Trenev, but it doesn't list specific brands. Here is her website. She seems to

have her own brand of products which I've never heard of.

http://www.natashatrenev.com/index.asp

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> Hi,

> Does anyone know of a link or a book that gives advice and info. on the

different types and ranges of pro-biotics that are out there, in terms of

strengths and strains etc? If so would you point me in the right direction-

could doing with knowing a bit more about them all.

> Thanks Janet

>

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The below link might be helpful

http://www.enzymestuff.com/probiotics.htm

Kenny

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> Hi,

> Does anyone know of a link or a book that gives advice and info. on the

different types and ranges of pro-biotics that are out there, in terms of

strengths and strains etc? If so would you point me in the right direction-

could doing with knowing a bit more about them all.

> Thanks Janet

>

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There have been several conversations about this on this site...just look

through teh archives.

As far as I stand...My son has Severe Combined Immunodeficiency with Complete

T-Cell Dysfunction....His Immunologist has told us to NEVER give him Probiotics.

It will mask the bacteria and make his body believe all is well and in fact a

" train wreck " could be in there.

,

Mom of Blake 18 SCID with Complete T-Cell Dysfunction( on 35 grams a week over 3

days of Gammagard S/D via Sub-Q), Autism, Severe Asthma and GERD

" Children are like butterflies in the wind.

Some fly higher than others, BUT

each one flies the best they can!!!! "

From: Pessy <whewpy@...>

Subject: Probiotics

Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 9:41 PM

 

, I have been having this conversation with our doctors recently and they

are very sure probiotics can only be helpful since it adds good bacteria. I keep

telling them we want NO bacteria - but I really need more scientific backup.

Does anyone know where I can find out more info? Pessy

[Guest guest]

There have been several conversations about this on this site...just look

through teh archives.

As far as I stand...My son has Severe Combined Immunodeficiency with Complete

T-Cell Dysfunction....His Immunologist has told us to NEVER give him Probiotics.

It will mask the bacteria and make his body believe all is well and in fact a

" train wreck " could be in there.

,

Mom of Blake 18 SCID with Complete T-Cell Dysfunction( on 35 grams a week over 3

days of Gammagard S/D via Sub-Q), Autism, Severe Asthma and GERD

" Children are like butterflies in the wind.

Some fly higher than others, BUT

each one flies the best they can!!!! "

From: Pessy <whewpy@...>

Subject: Probiotics

Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 9:41 PM

 

, I have been having this conversation with our doctors recently and they

are very sure probiotics can only be helpful since it adds good bacteria. I keep

telling them we want NO bacteria - but I really need more scientific backup.

Does anyone know where I can find out more info? Pessy

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MRProbiotics is a hot topic. We spent a whole morning at the last conf in London talking about tit.

You can see patents being on the works now :

http://www.freshpatents.com/-dt20100610ptan20100143305.php?type=claimshttp://www.nutraingredients.com/Research/Probiotic-bacteria-may-stop-HIV-infection

Probitics keep your immune system from being activated by waste product from the gut. They also help produce B vitamins for our bodies. They also help digest certain sugars for us to absorb better. They may protect against immune senesense caused by immune activation due to waste product leakage into our blood.

There is a study being done to study this:http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00536848

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Matt <grm449@...> wrote:

Hello.

There is a lot of buzz aobut probiotics nowadays. I was wondering if there is anything in particular hiv+ folks should be aware of. For example, do protiase inhibs or other HIV meds or HIV itself kill or affect the growth of the helpful bacterial flora of the gut (like antibiotics do)? What specific types of bacteria should be promoted through diet and/or probiotic subliments. Any recommendations for suplements, yogurt or other food products, how often to take, etc.

thanks

-MR

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Yakult has some information. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Amber SeewaldSent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:50 PMBariatric RD GroupSubject: Probiotics Hello, Does anyone have a handout on probiotics they would be willing to share? I have had a number of support group participants request one. I thought I would check here before I started from scratch. Thank you,Amber Seewald, RDPalm Springs, CA

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This Food Contains 100 TIMES More Probiotics than a Supplement

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