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> I need a teacher! Can someone please explain to me what Ultrez 10

and TEA are?

Hi,

I will try to be brief :) Ultrez 10 is a specific polymer - what is

a polymer - it is double bonds of carbon. It is a white powder that

is " wetted down " or dispearsed in water.

TEA is sort of like a weak lye solution - it would be equivelent to

an 18% solution - it is used to raise the pH of the water and

polymer. The weaker solution is used because it is easier to control

how much you add.

The polymer " as is " has a pH of around 3, very low, and when you add

the TEA it goes up slowly. As the pH raises, the polymer, (which

looks like tightly wound balls of string), unravels and takes up more

space.

As they take up more space it makes gel.

HTH,

Jen

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In a message dated 9/21/02 4:54:49 PM Central Daylight Time, jens@...

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> As the pH raises, the polymer, (which

> looks like tightly wound balls of string), unravels and takes up more

> space.

>

>

Thanks Jen,

Would I be right to assume that the Ultrez 10 and TEA have no effect on the

skin? They just fluff up products like lotion?

Sage

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In a message dated 9/22/02 4:03:06 PM Central Daylight Time, jens@...

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> Think of it more like clear hair gel or Dippity Doo. The TEA is very

> weak, when I used demo it I would put it on my hand straight with no

> burns. A comparsion would be adding citric acid to lower a pH.

>

>

Thanks Jen. As I prefer to use natural ingredients, I am always a bit

nervous when something new comes along that looks all synthetic to me. I

don't want to miss out on something wonderful, but I also do not want to jump

on a band wagon and use ingredients that are not healthful for the skin.

Thanks again.

Sage

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> Would I be right to assume that the Ultrez 10 and TEA have no

effect on the skin?

Hi,

Think of it more like clear hair gel or Dippity Doo. The TEA is very

weak, when I used demo it I would put it on my hand straight with no

burns. A comparsion would be adding citric acid to lower a pH.

The kewl thing is that when you have added enuough TEA, (which isn't

much - you will want to use a dropper), you have gel so it is easy

to " see " it thicken. Not enuf is still watery, right amount is gel,

too much turns back water like.

If you have your hands *covered in* the polymer powder for long

periods of time it is somewhat irritating because the pH is only

around 3 and causes itching. But I am talking about repacking a 40

pound box in 4 oz. quantities.

If you get it on your hands in small amounts no problem and if you

spill it the only way to clean it up easily is to scrape up what you

can,wet it and add table salt to it or it just truns into gooey gel

that takes days toget off.

Jen

http://www.jenslab.com

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In a message dated 9/22/02 10:11:37 PM Central Daylight Time,

jens@... writes:

> Are you trying to thicken something or make a gel? There are other

> options too.

>

>

You are so helpful Jen. I do appreciate it. I want to make a gel, but

friend is trying to make lotion that is not greasy and was told to use Ultrez

10.

Sage

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I want to make a gel, but a friend is trying to make lotion that is

not greasy and was told to use Ultrez 10.

Hi,

Ultrez 10 won't do anything to cut down on the greasies - it just

gels/thickens.

I did see on the Snowdrift site they have the Natrasorb Wheat Starch

which will cut doen on the greasies. They also have Wheat Gel for

making gels, (I think).

Maybe Trina could comment more on her stuff:)

Jen

http://www.jenslab.com

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In a message dated 9/23/02 8:08:33 AM Central Daylight Time, jens@...

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> I did see on the Snowdrift site they have the Natrasorb Wheat Starch

> which will cut doen on the greasies. They also have Wheat Gel for

> making gels, (I think).

>

>

Jen,

You are wonderful and I appreciate you! :-))

Sage

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