Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 , It's hard for me to ever object to the Olympic lifts in use. Yet in the training of soccer players, I have found that training complexes are most effective. Care needs to be emphasized with intensity levels and how it relates to the entire training model. [Of course, any training complex can include the Olympic lifts or some of the hundreds of exercises and exercise hybrids derived from the Olympic lifts, as detailed in " Supertraining " 2000, Ch 8. Regarding intensity, one needs to be careful to use appropriate intensities at the single session, microcycle and mesocycle level. Then, we also have to be aware of the special demands placed on the body by higher density (higher number of reps per unit time) training. Mel Siff] I would be willing to discuss more, if you wish. [i am sure that many members of the Supertraining group would be interested in reading more of your thoughts on this subject. Mel Siff] In faith, Coach Davies .... USA --------------------- " Malcomb " <jesse.malcomb@c...> wrote: <I have a friend who plays Division 2 soccer for her college and she has yet to have a coach require weight training. She weight trains herself, and has asked me if I could come up with a workout scheme she could use during the season, and one for the off-season. So to help me, I thought what place could be better than the Supertraining group. I come from an OL background, so I have begun to teach her the clean and snatch pulls and power cleans, with I think will help immensely with sprinting and jumping. Any suggestions on the best exercises for the soccer player? Any help will be greatly appreciated.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 , I sent an Italian Strength training magazine to Mel, in which appears an article of mine on strength training for soccer. I hope he can translate it. I thank again Mel for his advice and Thibaudeau for the images. Best, Carlo Buzzichelli Siena, Italy ------------- " Malcomb " <jesse.malcomb@c...> wrote: <I have a friend who plays Division 2 soccer for her college and she has yet to have a coach require weight training. She weight trains herself, and has asked me if I could come up with a workout scheme she could use during the season, and one for the off-season. So to help me, I thought what place could be better than the Supertraining group. I come from an OL background, so I have begun to teach her the clean and snatch pulls and power cleans, with I think will help immensely with sprinting and jumping. Any suggestions on the best exercises for the soccer player? Any help will be greatly appreciated. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 , I agree fully. The Olympic lifts should be eased into the training model. I planned on keeping intensities low, and progressing later. I basically would like to set up a program for this athlete while she in college (in another state). The only correspondence I will have with her is through e-mail. So coming up with a solid training program that can be modified throughout the year is the goal. Any advice you could give me would be greatly appreciated. --------------------------------------------- Regards, Malcomb Information Technology Services University of Colorado - Boulder Office: (303) 735-6363 Mobile: (720) 261-8353 jesse.malcomb@... Re: Weight Training for the female Soccer athlete , It's hard for me to ever object to the Olympic lifts in use. Yet in the training of soccer players, I have found that training complexes are most effective. Care needs to be emphasized with intensity levels and how it relates to the entire training model. [Of course, any training complex can include the Olympic lifts or some of the hundreds of exercises and exercise hybrids derived from the Olympic lifts, as detailed in " Supertraining " 2000, Ch 8. Regarding intensity, one needs to be careful to use appropriate intensities at the single session, microcycle and mesocycle level. Then, we also have to be aware of the special demands placed on the body by higher density (higher number of reps per unit time) training. Mel Siff] I would be willing to discuss more, if you wish. [i am sure that many members of the Supertraining group would be interested in reading more of your thoughts on this subject. Mel Siff] In faith, Coach Davies ... USA --------------------- " Malcomb " <jesse.malcomb@c...> wrote: <I have a friend who plays Division 2 soccer for her college and she has yet to have a coach require weight training. She weight trains herself, and has asked me if I could come up with a workout scheme she could use during the season, and one for the off-season. So to help me, I thought what place could be better than the Supertraining group. I come from an OL background, so I have begun to teach her the clean and snatch pulls and power cleans, with I think will help immensely with sprinting and jumping. Any suggestions on the best exercises for the soccer player? Any help will be greatly appreciated.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2001 Report Share Posted August 1, 2001 : It would be a pleasure to somehow be of assistance. I presume your conditioning model is a complete program, ie all levels of her training, excluding technical skill. The barrier of her being in another state is insignificant. I assist athletes throughout the world and because of the internet, I am able to transfer detailed mpegs and so forth. It is my belief that all training is series of geometric progression, so modification/adjustment becomes a mandate for complete success. [Why geometric progression as opposed to arithmetic or other forms of progression? Please give some specifics of exactly what you mean by " geometric progression " and evidence that geometric progressions should be the advisable variant for strength conditioning. Mel Siff] I look forward to being of help. Have a blessed day, in faith Davies ..... City? -------------------------- " Malcomb " <jesse.malcomb@c...> wrote: > , > > I agree fully. The Olympic lifts should be eased into the training model. I planned on keeping intensities low, and progressing later. I basically would like to set up a program for this athlete while she in college (in another state). The only correspondence I will have with her is through e-mail. So coming up with a solid training program that can be modified throughout the year is the goal. Any advice you could give me would be greatly appreciated. > > --------------------------------------------- > Regards, > Malcomb > Information Technology Services > University of Colorado - Boulder > Office: (303) 735-6363 > Mobile: (720) 261-8353 > jesse.malcomb@c... > Re: Weight Training for the female Soccer athlete > > > , > > It's hard for me to ever object to the Olympic lifts in use. Yet in > the training of soccer players, I have found that training complexes > are most effective. Care needs to be emphasized with intensity levels > and how it relates to the entire training model. > > [Of course, any training complex can include the Olympic lifts or > some of the hundreds of exercises and exercise hybrids derived from the Olympic lifts, > as detailed in " Supertraining " 2000, Ch 8. Regarding intensity, one needs to be careful to > use appropriate intensities at the single session, microcycle and mesocycle level. Then, we > also have to be aware of the special demands placed on the body by higher density (higher number > of reps per unit time) training. Mel Siff] > > I would be willing to discuss more, if you wish. > > [i am sure that many members of the Supertraining group would be interested in reading more > of your thoughts on this subject. Mel Siff] > > In faith, > > Coach Davies > ... USA > > --------------------- > > " Malcomb " <jesse.malcomb@c...> wrote: > > <I have a friend who plays Division 2 soccer for her college and she > has yet to have a coach require weight training. She weight trains > herself, and has asked me if I could come up with a workout scheme > she could use during the season, and one for the off-season. So to > help me, I thought what place could be better than the Supertraining > group. I come from an OL background, so I have begun to teach her > the clean and snatch pulls and power cleans, with I think will help > immensely with sprinting and jumping. Any suggestions on the best > exercises for the soccer player? Any help will be greatly appreciated.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Malcomb <jesse.malcomb@...> wrote: > I have a friend who plays Division 2 soccer for her college and she > has yet to have a coach require weight training. She weight trains > herself, and has asked me if I could come up with a workout scheme > she could use during the season, and one for the off-season. So to > help me, I thought what place could be better than the > Supertraining group. I come from an OL background, so I have begun > to teach her the clean and snatch pulls and power cleans, with I > think will help immensely with sprinting and jumping. Any > suggestions on the best exercises for the soccer player? Any help > will be greatly appreciated. Ideally you'd find some weight training movements involving both knee extension and hip flexion, as in kicking. Most lifting movements (squats, deads, cleans) involve knee extension coupled with hip flexion; they don't emphasize the rectus femoris (or the general pattern of kicking). Matt Madsen __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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