Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Hello everyone, I am a long time " lurker " on this list; I haven't posted in a while, as I don't have a computer at home. I am trying to gage the need/desire for high speed isokinetic training in the strength and conditioning world. I have a Masters in Biomechanics and 5 yrs or so experience personal training, and have just started working for a company here in Australia that makes such equipment. While there is obviously a conflict of interest, this is not an advertisement inasmuch as I am not looking for buyers here, I am trying to get opinions. Some of you may be familiar with the " VERT " system (Velocity Enhanced Resistance Training) in California that was written about in USA today some months ago, that has trained Lenny Krayzelburg, Shaquille O'Neal, and other gold medallists. The technology involves closed- loop hydraulic isokinetics to allow resistance training at constant speeds of up to 800 degs/sec; much closer to that seen during competition than traditional weight training with the safety of isokinetics. Our specific Kinetic system consists of 9 machines, and is designed to train 20 athletes or so in an hour. I am not posting results obtained from our equipment, or places that have it, (or our company name for that matter) so as not to make this post too advertisement-y, however I will gladly provide any further information if asked. [by all means give more quantitative details about the differences between 'your' machines and other similar machines on the market. Address topics such as the range of isokineticity and any research which shows actual transfer of machine-acquired abilities to the world of sports. Comments on the fact that RFD (Rate of Force Development) specificity is seriously neglected by the use of all ioskinetic machines. By the way, as someone who has consulted for the Chicago Bulls, Shak certainly did not spend much time on seriously training with any isokinetic machines while he played for the Bulls. Quite frankly, I am not very moved by anecdotal evidence about athletes whose results have been attributed to a specific machine or training secret, because all athletes train with a wide variety of sports specific and general training modalities. A sample size of a few sponsored Olympians hardly constitutes scientific evidence, especially if the athletes concerned have used a multiplicity of methods in their rise to fame. Mel Siff] So my question is, what is the level of interest for such equipment in the strength and conditioning world? Any feedback or questions would be most welcome. [Of course, a major issue is: " Do these costly machines demonstrably produce superior improvements to existing free weight methods and if so, are they equally safe and efficient in terms of time, effort and costs expended? " As someone who has designed and owns a variety of specialised isokinetic, linear motorised, gear driven, low-inertia, high-inertia, combined isoinertial-isokinetic devices, plus three force plates and miscellaneous other technology, I only periodically use such devices because I have developed programs and methods with free weights and cable systems that are extremely effective in enhancing performance. These devices are wonderful for those of us who wish to probe the science behind training and refining the performance of elite athletes, but really aren't essential for the average coach. Mel Siff] Donovan Shaw Wooloomooloo? Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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