Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 Khasin asked: <What is your opinion about this " revolutionary approach " : Pete Egoscue's book is unusual in that it is not written by a medical authority. Pete Egoscue is a sports injury consultant, and he seems to be exceedingly knowledgeable about the function of the muscle groups. He has developed low-impact exercises to " reset " your muscle groups and realign your bones. These exercises are deceptively simple, but can take all you have to complete. They are preventative medicin at its best. Pete Egoscue's book is unusual in that it is not written by a medical authority. " Pain Free " by Pete Egoscue with Gittines.> *** The above comments sound like the came from some of the advertising copy on Egoscue's books and method, but that, in fact, is virtually the sum total of what is available to " substantiate " the Egoscue method - very thin in research backing, but very copious in anecdotes, testimonials (from golfers in particular) and claims. In that respect, it is little different from other methods claiming to achieve the same as Egoscue. In fact, if you carry out a Medline and other academic searches, you will find little or nothing on the Egoscue claims. Earlier today, I submitted a post on " How to Spot Quackery " - well a good portion of that letter applies to this topic. In stating this I wish to point out that applying the term " quackery " to any therapy does not necessarily mean that it enjoys no success at all - if that were the case, all quackery would die a very rapid death. No, what that term really means is that this sort of therapy is very deficient in any form of theoretical or practical explanation and works in some cases for reasons that most likely have nothing to do with the hypothesized or claimed modus operandi. I have no doubt that Egoscue works in a substantial number of cases, as do many other forms of therapy or self-management, but the likelihood that it works for reasons propounded by Egoscue are dubious. As I stated in my earlier letter on quackery, " The occurrence of the placebo effect ensures that almost all " revolutionary " or " space-age " methods, no matter how unproven or apparently outrageous, will enjoy just enough success to ensure that many therapists or self-appointed experts will stay in business.... " and: " Comparative studies in this field, especially using double-blind methods, are so notoriously difficult to devise and conduct that the odds are that you will get away with almost any non-invasive therapy that is fairly harmless for long enough to become a rather wealthy person - provided that you are well-marketed - yes, that is the key, not the method itself, but how it is packaged, presented and sold. Naturally, a smattering of impressive-sounding medical or scientific jargon and guru-speak can work wonders in captivating the masses! " It is also likely that some of the exercises and methods used by Egoscue and borrowed from a wide variety of different sources do offer a degree of relief and it is well know that small, though discernible, changes in state can produce powerful non-linear results, i.e. changes that are way out of proportion to the stimuli involved. Those changes can also significantly enhance the placebo effect, so that you may be winning in two respects. Now the Egoscue-converted no doubt will say, " So, what is wrong with that? - that is exactly what we noticed - that is why we use Egoscue! " . The point is that specific Egoscue methods per se may have little to do with the change of state - many other methods could have provided a suitable stimulus and effected comparable improvements, as is very much the case with , Feldenkrais, Bobath, Maitland, McKenzie, Rolf, " Active Release " , " Trigger Point Release " and many other well-known therapies. There is no proof, other than the subjective testimonials of happy users, that Egoscue is comparable to or better than any other method of treatment. The fact that some people who " tried everything " before revelling in their first improvements with Egoscue (or any other method) is scientifically and practically irrelevant, because that sort of occurrence is rife with most medical interventions. It is well know what works with one patient does not necessarily work with another. Let us now examine some of the web information on the " Egoscue Method " : ---------------------- <The Egoscue Method of Health Through Motion by Pete Egoscue with Gittines Are you one of the walking wounded? Do you suffer from chronic pain in the hip, shoulder, back, neck? Do you have rounded shoulders, uneven legs, sore feet, a duck walk? The Egoscue Method will teach you how your muscles and joints should line up and function and how your postural habits can cause pain in your day-to-day activities or sports. The long " Self-Diagnosis " chapter at the heart of the book uses many pictures and self-tests to help you analyze your functional " Condition " which is determined by the tilt of your pelvis and the alignment of your shoulder, hip and knee joints. From there you follow various combinations of twenty-two stretches and exercises that will help to realign your body. You'll feel as if you're having a private session with Pete as he encourages you to listen to the pain messages that your body is sending and to take responsibility for returning your body to its proper alignment.> *** So, here we have yet another guru claiming to know exactly " how your muscles and joints should line up and function and how your postural habits can cause pain in your day-to-day activities or sports " , despite the fact that there is no universal postural and movement standard to which humans must conform in order to avoid physical deterioration and pain. There is considerable latitude for deviations from " ideal " or optimal postures and there is no definitive proof that slight deviations automatically result in pathology and pain In fact, a good deal of deterioration and disease in the body is NOT associated with pain and, conversely, a lot of pain is associated with no obvious physiological or mechanical malfunction. Pain also can have great deal to do with psychosocial factors and cannot always be regarded as a reliable indicator of bodily function. The claims that pictures and self tests based upon visual examination of one's static posture will reveal what is happening to the body in dynamic movement are entirely without support. Let us continue: -------------------- < http://www.egoscue.com/Education/conditions123.html> As seen in Pete Egoscue's first book, The Egoscue Method of Health through Motion, people can generally be placed into 1 of 3 postures. Click one of the following " Conditions " that you fit into based on your posture. CONDITION 1: Posture: Both hips (pelvis) tilted forward (often accompanied by sagging gut) Kneecaps angled outward Feet everted (one or both) Calf and thigh (gait) muscles lazy and dysfunctional (should be used for walking) [Kneecaps " angled outwards " , " lazy " muscles, pelvis and hips casually lumped together, etc - indeed!! Quite an impressive array of " symptoms " ! MCS] Body's Reaction: Slumping and tense shoulders Upper back and neck muscles stressed Increased arch of spine at low back Stiff and sore knees and ankles CONDITION 2: Posture: Head angled off to one side Shoulder drooped forward and down Upper torso rotation Forward hip rotation (right or left side) and/or hip elevation Back of hand showing and may be hanging lower than the other hand One foot in front of the other with standing Body's Reaction: Excessive strain on knees, hips and shoulders (one side of body more than the other) Bearing extra weight on one side of body Inability to bear weight on one side Strain on back or neck on one side of body more than other CONDITION 3 Posture: Head juts forward and can droop down due to gravity pull Rounding, drooping shoulders Both hips tilted under as though being pulled down from behind by tremendous force Back of hands showing in front of body Body's Reaction: Upper back, shoulder and neck pain Slumping and tense shoulders Upper back and neck muscles stressed S-curve of lower back flattened into " C-curve " Sore feet and ankles Welcome to the Egoscue Client Image Upload page. This page provides you with the ability to directly upload your digital images to the Egoscue Online instructors. In order to use this page you MUST have the following: - Your email address. - Digital Pictures of yourself. Ideally you should provide 4 images per the example, but you may upload any number from 1 to 4. If you have the above make sure the images are on your system and you know where they are. Now fill out the form below. To add your images to the form click on the Browse button below each sample image. This will allow you to find your image(s) on your computer. After the form is filled out click on the Send images button. The images and any comments you have made will then be transferred to the Egoscue facility where the instructors will be automatically notified. After the transfer is complete a new web page will be loaded letting you know that everything went well.> *** Notice that the entire analysis is based upon one's static standing pose, which has little or no bearing on what happens to the joints, muscles and other soft tissues during dynamic tasks. If engineers tested and constructed buildings and bridges on that basis of static and visual testing, not too many of those structures would survive even fairly modest earthquakes or wind loading (I am intentionally using this analogy because of one website which stated that Egoscue even applies some of the principles of engineering in his work). -------------- BOOK REVIEWS <http://halldiets.com/fitness/233.shtml> From AudioFile <Egoscue's theory is that the human body is meant to be in motion; as lifestyles have become more sedentary, the musculoskeletal system has gone out of alignment. The cassette is based upon Egoscue's clinical work and his book of the same title. Egoscue's voice is intermittently flat, fumbling and condescending. The first tape, which is devoted to an explanation of his method, is repetitious. The second tape covers the exercises. The tape is detailed enough to follow, but it would require copious note-taking by the listener to be of use. Audio is not an appropriate format for this topic...... Synopsis Endorsed by Mike Ditka, Jack Nicklaus, and others associated with athletics, Egoscue's revolutionary and highly effective exercise program for maintaining the body's full range of physical functions includes a series of 22 simple exercises that stretch, strengthen, and relax the body. Synopsis A revolutionary program of stretching and exercises that emphasizes proper motion to restore the body's natural alignment--resulting in greater energy, physical well-being, and fewer injuries. Egoscue's method has helped thousands of people learn how to live healthier, pain-free lives and achieve complete fitness. Endorsed by the PGA. 2 cassettes........ ***Once again, we note that magical standard of " natural alignment " and exclusive reliance on anecdotes and testimonials. Maybe others have come across some genuine studies which prove Egoscue claims on the basis of solid science, so do share them with the rest of us if you have. As far as we can judge from the existing commentaries, the results have little to do with the postulated mechanisms and beliefs and, since Egoscue and a host of similar methods actually produce improvement in certain cohorts of individuals, there is no doubt that it will be around for a long while. A definite plus is that many of these methods do no harm, which is in keeping with the sentiments of the Hippocratic Oath, so we can at least be satisfied that some people are benefitting, no matter what the " truth " may be. That, however, does nothing to promote understanding or enhance progress in a useful synergy of science and art, but that often is no concern to many people. ----------------- Dr Mel C Siff Denver, USA Supertraining/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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