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A week after the rash from hell, we have beautiful skin, the best its looked for a long time :)

I think what we had was a combination of three things at once, detox/viral stuff from the NCD, Eczema from some yeast that kicked up and likely low Omega 6 (or unbalanced ratios) from increasing the CLO in prep for the Bethancol prep.

I am doing 3 drops per day, given in 1 litre of juice/water mix and taken in small doses throughout the day.

Yesterday his teacher wrote in the home-school diary:

"What a happy boy you sent into school today! He has been laughing and giggling when he knows he is being really cheeky - which he has been all day - whatever he had for breakfast - we all want some tomorrow!" ....some really GREAT PEC's work also :)

I am finding for me one dose in the morning works better than 3 across the day, I was getting dehydrate a bit overnight I think and waking up with headache - with one bigger dose on the AM this has resolved - more time to get the extra water during the day.

My sinus has stopped oozing gunge - now I have knee ache++ - old netball injury come back to roost? the ache is EXACTLY where I had the tear in the medial ligamnet - spooky. I Have read similar when folks use Virastop.

Will keep going for both of us :) Wish the bottles were bigger!

Mandi x

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A week after the rash from hell, we have beautiful skin, the best its looked for a long time :)

I think what we had was a combination of three things at once, detox/viral stuff from the NCD, Eczema from some yeast that kicked up and likely low Omega 6 (or unbalanced ratios) from increasing the CLO in prep for the Bethancol prep.

I am doing 3 drops per day, given in 1 litre of juice/water mix and taken in small doses throughout the day.

Yesterday his teacher wrote in the home-school diary:

"What a happy boy you sent into school today! He has been laughing and giggling when he knows he is being really cheeky - which he has been all day - whatever he had for breakfast - we all want some tomorrow!" ....some really GREAT PEC's work also :)

I am finding for me one dose in the morning works better than 3 across the day, I was getting dehydrate a bit overnight I think and waking up with headache - with one bigger dose on the AM this has resolved - more time to get the extra water during the day.

My sinus has stopped oozing gunge - now I have knee ache++ - old netball injury come back to roost? the ache is EXACTLY where I had the tear in the medial ligamnet - spooky. I Have read similar when folks use Virastop.

Will keep going for both of us :) Wish the bottles were bigger!

Mandi x

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Fascinating stuff - sounds like you're going through the mill on this one, but it certainly seems to be doing something - do keep us posted. We're still struggling to keep guts in a reasonable state. Just completed first round of combined TD DMSA and ALA - J handled this well but remains to be seen what happens in the aftermath with the yeast!!!

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On 09/05/06, Mum231ASD@... <Mum231ASD@...> wrote:

A week after the rash from hell, we have beautiful skin, the best its looked for a long time :)

I think what we had was a combination of three things at once, detox/viral stuff from the NCD, Eczema from some yeast that kicked up and likely low Omega 6 (or unbalanced ratios) from increasing the CLO in prep for the Bethancol prep.

I am doing 3 drops per day, given in 1 litre of juice/water mix and taken in small doses throughout the day.

Yesterday his teacher wrote in the home-school diary:

" What a happy boy you sent into school today! He has been laughing and giggling when he knows he is being really cheeky - which he has been all day - whatever he had for breakfast - we all want some tomorrow! " ....some really GREAT PEC's work also :)

I am finding for me one dose in the morning works better than 3 across the day, I was getting dehydrate a bit overnight I think and waking up with headache - with one bigger dose on the AM this has resolved - more time to get the extra water during the day.

My sinus has stopped oozing gunge - now I have knee ache++ - old netball injury come back to roost? the ache is EXACTLY where I had the tear in the medial ligamnet - spooky. I Have read similar when folks use Virastop.

Will keep going for both of us :) Wish the bottles were bigger!

Mandi xDISCLAIMERNo information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

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Fascinating stuff - sounds like you're going through the mill on this one, but it certainly seems to be doing something - do keep us posted. We're still struggling to keep guts in a reasonable state. Just completed first round of combined TD DMSA and ALA - J handled this well but remains to be seen what happens in the aftermath with the yeast!!!

Love

On 09/05/06, Mum231ASD@... <Mum231ASD@...> wrote:

A week after the rash from hell, we have beautiful skin, the best its looked for a long time :)

I think what we had was a combination of three things at once, detox/viral stuff from the NCD, Eczema from some yeast that kicked up and likely low Omega 6 (or unbalanced ratios) from increasing the CLO in prep for the Bethancol prep.

I am doing 3 drops per day, given in 1 litre of juice/water mix and taken in small doses throughout the day.

Yesterday his teacher wrote in the home-school diary:

" What a happy boy you sent into school today! He has been laughing and giggling when he knows he is being really cheeky - which he has been all day - whatever he had for breakfast - we all want some tomorrow! " ....some really GREAT PEC's work also :)

I am finding for me one dose in the morning works better than 3 across the day, I was getting dehydrate a bit overnight I think and waking up with headache - with one bigger dose on the AM this has resolved - more time to get the extra water during the day.

My sinus has stopped oozing gunge - now I have knee ache++ - old netball injury come back to roost? the ache is EXACTLY where I had the tear in the medial ligamnet - spooky. I Have read similar when folks use Virastop.

Will keep going for both of us :) Wish the bottles were bigger!

Mandi xDISCLAIMERNo information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

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Hi Di,

What levels of lead did Sam show on the porphyrins test as Jack was 340 in ref range 40-80!!! I'll check his last urine toxic metals - got a feeling it was 9 ish, also high!!! I'm sticking with TD DMSA and ALA as yeast/bug issues are bad enough with this withou tempting further problems with the oral form! Did you try TD DMSA and find problems were just as bad as oral? I've been adivsed to do both the same ie either stick with oral for both or TD for both. I intend to do a urine toxic metal next round so will be interesting to see what it pulls. When abouts in the round did you do it?

Re the TD ALA mine comes on rx from McCandless from Coastal.HTH

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On 09/05/06, harebigears <harebigears@...> wrote:

> >> > A week after the rash from hell, we have beautiful skin, the best its> > looked for a long time :)

> >> > I think what we had was a combination of three things at once, detox/viral> > stuff from the NCD, Eczema from some yeast that kicked up and likely low> > Omega 6 (or unbalanced ratios) from increasing the CLO in prep for the> > Bethancol prep.> >> > I am doing 3 drops per day, given in 1 litre of juice/water mix and taken> > in small doses throughout the day.> >> > Yesterday his teacher wrote in the home-school diary:

> > " What a happy boy you sent into school today! He has been laughing and> > giggling when he knows he is being really cheeky - which he has been all day> > - whatever he had for breakfast - we all want some tomorrow! " ....some> > really GREAT PEC's work also :)> >> > I am finding for me one dose in the morning works better than 3 across the> > day, I was getting dehydrate a bit overnight I think and waking up with> > headache - with one bigger dose on the AM this has resolved - more time to> > get the extra water during the day.> >> > My sinus has stopped oozing gunge - now I have knee ache++ - old netball> > injury come back to roost? the ache is EXACTLY where I had the tear in the> > medial ligamnet - spooky. I Have read similar when folks use Virastop.> >> > Will keep going for both of us :) Wish the bottles were bigger!

> >> > Mandi x> >> >> > DISCLAIMER> > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical> > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified> > practitioner.> >> >> >> >> >

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In a message dated 09/05/2006 16:28:29 GMT Daylight Time, sallygeorge@... writes:

This is all very interesting. I have looked at the website and wondered where you got your bottle from?

Sounds exciting stuff.

>>>List mate from the USA signed up as distributor to get discount and then sold to me at discount - you can always count on another mum or dad!

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Mandi,

This is all very interesting. I have

looked at the website and wondered where you got your bottle from?

Sounds exciting stuff.

Sally

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Re: NCD Zeolite - Update on Sam

A week after

the rash from hell, we have beautiful skin, the best its looked for a long time

:)

I think what

we had was a combination of three things at once, detox/viral stuff from the

NCD, Eczema from some yeast that kicked up and likely low Omega 6 (or

unbalanced ratios) from increasing the CLO in prep for the Bethancol prep.

I am doing 3

drops per day, given in 1 litre of juice/water mix and taken in small doses

throughout the day.

Yesterday

his teacher wrote in the home-school diary:

" What a

happy boy you sent into school today! He has been laughing and giggling when he

knows he is being really cheeky - which he has been all day - whatever he had

for breakfast - we all want some tomorrow! " ....some really GREAT

PEC's work also :)

I am finding

for me one dose in the morning works better than 3 across the day, I was

getting dehydrate a bit overnight I think and waking up with headache - with

one bigger dose on the AM this has resolved - more time to get the extra water

during the day.

My sinus has

stopped oozing gunge - now I have knee ache++ - old netball injury come back to

roost? the ache is EXACTLY where I had the tear in the medial ligamnet -

spooky. I Have read similar when folks use Virastop.

Will keep

going for both of us :) Wish the bottles were bigger!

Mandi x

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In a message dated 09/05/2006 23:09:41 GMT Daylight Time, fjennings@... writes:

1st order 2 bottles for $78.00 and just won auction for 4 bottles for $134.00 (both nc;uding shipping)

>>>No UK seller though :(

Mandi x

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In a message dated 09/05/2006 23:09:41 GMT Daylight Time, fjennings@... writes:

1st order 2 bottles for $78.00 and just won auction for 4 bottles for $134.00 (both nc;uding shipping)

>>>No UK seller though :(

Mandi x

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In a message dated 09/05/2006 23:09:41 GMT Daylight Time, fjennings@... writes:

1st order 2 bottles for $78.00 and just won auction for 4 bottles for $134.00 (both nc;uding shipping)

>>>You can buy them for $139.95 if you order direct for four bottles and sign up as preferred :)

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In a message dated 09/05/2006 23:09:41 GMT Daylight Time, fjennings@... writes:

1st order 2 bottles for $78.00 and just won auction for 4 bottles for $134.00 (both nc;uding shipping)

>>>You can buy them for $139.95 if you order direct for four bottles and sign up as preferred :)

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I got mine on eBay !!!

1st order 2 bottles for $78.00 and just won auction for 4 bottles for $134.00 (both nc;uding shipping)

Lillian

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Mandi,

This is all very interesting. I have looked at the website and wondered where you got your bottle from?

Sounds exciting stuff.

Sally

From: Autism Treatment [mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of Mum231ASD@...Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:13 AMAutism Treatment Subject: Re: Re: NCD Zeolite - Update on Sam

A week after the rash from hell, we have beautiful skin, the best its looked for a long time :)

I think what we had was a combination of three things at once, detox/viral stuff from the NCD, Eczema from some yeast that kicked up and likely low Omega 6 (or unbalanced ratios) from increasing the CLO in prep for the Bethancol prep.

I am doing 3 drops per day, given in 1 litre of juice/water mix and taken in small doses throughout the day.

Yesterday his teacher wrote in the home-school diary:

"What a happy boy you sent into school today! He has been laughing and giggling when he knows he is being really cheeky - which he has been all day - whatever he had for breakfast - we all want some tomorrow!" ....some really GREAT PEC's work also :)

I am finding for me one dose in the morning works better than 3 across the day, I was getting dehydrate a bit overnight I think and waking up with headache - with one bigger dose on the AM this has resolved - more time to get the extra water during the day.

My sinus has stopped oozing gunge - now I have knee ache++ - old netball injury come back to roost? the ache is EXACTLY where I had the tear in the medial ligamnet - spooky. I Have read similar when folks use Virastop.

Will keep going for both of us :) Wish the bottles were bigger!

Mandi x

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I got mine on eBay !!!

1st order 2 bottles for $78.00 and just won auction for 4 bottles for $134.00 (both nc;uding shipping)

Lillian

fldofdrms@...fjennings@...

RE: Re: NCD Zeolite - Update on Sam

Mandi,

This is all very interesting. I have looked at the website and wondered where you got your bottle from?

Sounds exciting stuff.

Sally

From: Autism Treatment [mailto:Autism Treatment ] On Behalf Of Mum231ASD@...Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:13 AMAutism Treatment Subject: Re: Re: NCD Zeolite - Update on Sam

A week after the rash from hell, we have beautiful skin, the best its looked for a long time :)

I think what we had was a combination of three things at once, detox/viral stuff from the NCD, Eczema from some yeast that kicked up and likely low Omega 6 (or unbalanced ratios) from increasing the CLO in prep for the Bethancol prep.

I am doing 3 drops per day, given in 1 litre of juice/water mix and taken in small doses throughout the day.

Yesterday his teacher wrote in the home-school diary:

"What a happy boy you sent into school today! He has been laughing and giggling when he knows he is being really cheeky - which he has been all day - whatever he had for breakfast - we all want some tomorrow!" ....some really GREAT PEC's work also :)

I am finding for me one dose in the morning works better than 3 across the day, I was getting dehydrate a bit overnight I think and waking up with headache - with one bigger dose on the AM this has resolved - more time to get the extra water during the day.

My sinus has stopped oozing gunge - now I have knee ache++ - old netball injury come back to roost? the ache is EXACTLY where I had the tear in the medial ligamnet - spooky. I Have read similar when folks use Virastop.

Will keep going for both of us :) Wish the bottles were bigger!

Mandi x

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In a message dated 10/05/2006 11:27:00 GMT Daylight Time, jacqui@... writes:

There does appear to be one UK seller. £120 for four bottles I think. I have emailed asking if this is a oneoff or if they have an ongoing supply. Depending on reply, will ask what best price is.

>>>Thanks they wern;t there 3 weeks ago - it was all US peeps - yes please let me know although I pick up next supplies at Autism One at end of month

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In a message dated 11/05/2006 10:57:54 GMT Daylight Time, chris.cytera@... writes:

Am I correct in thinking similar properties to Humet as zeolite is a liquid detox?

>>>>yes but different format of action

Does it also supplement minerals where there is a shortage?

>>>You are supposed to not need to supp minerals on it, I do

It seems to have the blessing of the Gods from DAN

>>>Nope - couple of DAN!s have switched to it exlcusively - actualy peeps I have never heard of before on the lists. Most things DAN! do is parent driven in the first place, so if we like it they will use it lol

whereas Humet doesn't (except for DR H)

>>>Took ages for my order to arrive - at least 3 weeks, I had forgotten about it again, I hate that delay - Tom and Joe won't touch it and Sam was not impressed. There is no way I can dose it like they say on the bottle - looks like another supp lined up for me now.............

What has made it receive this official sanctioning - is it just a case of selectivity, as with GF/CF, supplementing with minerals on 'on chelation' days or is there some algorithm or other with which I am not familiar ( possibly a whole book of them LOL!)

>>>hasn't happened yet, but as I said before - its parents that drive what the DAN!'s do, most people are looking for an easy way out, not to have to get up at night, people telling them this and that won't cause yeast when I stand by my thinking that moving metals creates the yeast not the chelators - hence all the sudden madness on TD's, I've been around a while, been through DMSA/ALA/MTP/MTPII/TTFD/TDDMPS/EDTA oh and then back to DMSA, lets make it different, put in a TD, ooops, lets put everything in the TD, no no IV must be better, lets stick everybody, oops too hard, lets give suppositories.........................

Been through, you can;t chelate till the gut is healed amnd the yeast is gone only to do a round and have the yeast come back and stop start stop start, where do they all end up - chelating through the yeast, Sometimes it makes me chuckle, sometimes it makes me cry. Nasty reactions to IV's are put down to all sorts, wild behaviour on TD DMPS is called horns and tails, foowey I say, I try new stuff that I don't think can do any harm but I dont; stop doign what I know works and what has the best track record.................low frequent dosing oral DMSA/ALA :)

What do you know they say - still chelating after 4 years and no speech? I have my kid back and he comminicates, he never had horns and tails, he does have a genetic diasbility that presents as Autism, as well as Autism and Seizure activity, but he gets better without getting worse, I rest my case :)

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In a message dated 11/05/2006 10:57:54 GMT Daylight Time, chris.cytera@... writes:

Am I correct in thinking similar properties to Humet as zeolite is a liquid detox?

>>>>yes but different format of action

Does it also supplement minerals where there is a shortage?

>>>You are supposed to not need to supp minerals on it, I do

It seems to have the blessing of the Gods from DAN

>>>Nope - couple of DAN!s have switched to it exlcusively - actualy peeps I have never heard of before on the lists. Most things DAN! do is parent driven in the first place, so if we like it they will use it lol

whereas Humet doesn't (except for DR H)

>>>Took ages for my order to arrive - at least 3 weeks, I had forgotten about it again, I hate that delay - Tom and Joe won't touch it and Sam was not impressed. There is no way I can dose it like they say on the bottle - looks like another supp lined up for me now.............

What has made it receive this official sanctioning - is it just a case of selectivity, as with GF/CF, supplementing with minerals on 'on chelation' days or is there some algorithm or other with which I am not familiar ( possibly a whole book of them LOL!)

>>>hasn't happened yet, but as I said before - its parents that drive what the DAN!'s do, most people are looking for an easy way out, not to have to get up at night, people telling them this and that won't cause yeast when I stand by my thinking that moving metals creates the yeast not the chelators - hence all the sudden madness on TD's, I've been around a while, been through DMSA/ALA/MTP/MTPII/TTFD/TDDMPS/EDTA oh and then back to DMSA, lets make it different, put in a TD, ooops, lets put everything in the TD, no no IV must be better, lets stick everybody, oops too hard, lets give suppositories.........................

Been through, you can;t chelate till the gut is healed amnd the yeast is gone only to do a round and have the yeast come back and stop start stop start, where do they all end up - chelating through the yeast, Sometimes it makes me chuckle, sometimes it makes me cry. Nasty reactions to IV's are put down to all sorts, wild behaviour on TD DMPS is called horns and tails, foowey I say, I try new stuff that I don't think can do any harm but I dont; stop doign what I know works and what has the best track record.................low frequent dosing oral DMSA/ALA :)

What do you know they say - still chelating after 4 years and no speech? I have my kid back and he comminicates, he never had horns and tails, he does have a genetic diasbility that presents as Autism, as well as Autism and Seizure activity, but he gets better without getting worse, I rest my case :)

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In a message dated 11/05/2006 19:48:40 GMT Daylight Time, simondavis@... writes:

are they using this instead of dmps/dmsa/ala eic. ?

>>>>Yep, seems a little soon to me but this one guy is totally sold on it

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In a message dated 11/05/2006 19:48:40 GMT Daylight Time, simondavis@... writes:

are they using this instead of dmps/dmsa/ala eic. ?

>>>>Yep, seems a little soon to me but this one guy is totally sold on it

Mandi x

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Mandi,

>>>Nope - couple of DAN!s have switched to it exlcusively - actualy peeps I

have never heard of before on the lists. Most things DAN! do

is parent driven in the first place, so if we like it they will use it lol

are they using this instead of dmps/dmsa/ala eic. ?

elaine

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Re: NCD Zeolite - Update on Sam

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dated 11/05/2006 10:57:54

GMT Daylight

Time, chris.cytera@... writes:

Am I correct in thinking similar

properties to Humet as zeolite is a

liquid detox?

>>>>yes but different format

of action

Does it also supplement minerals

where there is a

shortage?

>>>You are supposed to not need

to supp minerals on it, I do

It seems to have the blessing of the Gods

from DAN

>>>Nope - couple of DAN!s have

switched to it exlcusively - actualy peeps I have never heard of before on the

lists. Most things DAN! do is parent driven in the first place, so if we like

it they will use it lol

whereas

Humet doesn't (except for DR H)

>>>Took ages for my order to

arrive - at least 3 weeks, I had forgotten about it again, I hate that delay -

Tom and Joe won't touch it and Sam was not impressed. There is no way I can

dose it like they say on the bottle - looks like another supp lined up for me

now.............

What has made it receive this

official sanctioning - is it just a case of selectivity, as with

GF/CF, supplementing with minerals on 'on chelation' days or is there

some algorithm or other with which I am not familiar ( possibly a

whole book of them LOL!)

>>>hasn't happened yet, but as I said before - its

parents that drive what the DAN!'s do, most people are looking for an easy way

out, not to have to get up at night, people telling them this and that won't

cause yeast when I stand by my thinking that moving metals creates the yeast

not the chelators - hence all the sudden madness on TD's, I've been around a

while, been through DMSA/ALA/MTP/MTPII/TTFD/TDDMPS/EDTA oh and then back to

DMSA, lets make it different, put in a TD, ooops, lets put everything in the

TD, no no IV must be better, lets stick everybody, oops too hard, lets give

suppositories.........................

Been through, you can;t chelate till the gut is healed amnd the

yeast is gone only to do a round and have the yeast come back and stop start

stop start, where do they all end up - chelating through the yeast, Sometimes

it makes me chuckle, sometimes it makes me cry. Nasty reactions to IV's are put

down to all sorts, wild behaviour on TD DMPS is called horns and tails, foowey

I say, I try new stuff that I don't think can do any harm but I dont;

stop doign what I know works and what has the best track

record.................low frequent dosing oral DMSA/ALA :)

What do you know they say - still chelating after 4 years and no

speech? I have my kid back and he comminicates, he never had horns and tails,

he does have a genetic diasbility that presents as Autism, as well as Autism

and Seizure activity, but he gets better without getting worse, I rest my case

:)

Mandi x

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Mandi,

>>>Nope - couple of DAN!s have switched to it exlcusively - actualy peeps I

have never heard of before on the lists. Most things DAN! do

is parent driven in the first place, so if we like it they will use it lol

are they using this instead of dmps/dmsa/ala eic. ?

elaine

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Re: NCD Zeolite - Update on Sam

In a message

dated 11/05/2006 10:57:54

GMT Daylight

Time, chris.cytera@... writes:

Am I correct in thinking similar

properties to Humet as zeolite is a

liquid detox?

>>>>yes but different format

of action

Does it also supplement minerals

where there is a

shortage?

>>>You are supposed to not need

to supp minerals on it, I do

It seems to have the blessing of the Gods

from DAN

>>>Nope - couple of DAN!s have

switched to it exlcusively - actualy peeps I have never heard of before on the

lists. Most things DAN! do is parent driven in the first place, so if we like

it they will use it lol

whereas

Humet doesn't (except for DR H)

>>>Took ages for my order to

arrive - at least 3 weeks, I had forgotten about it again, I hate that delay -

Tom and Joe won't touch it and Sam was not impressed. There is no way I can

dose it like they say on the bottle - looks like another supp lined up for me

now.............

What has made it receive this

official sanctioning - is it just a case of selectivity, as with

GF/CF, supplementing with minerals on 'on chelation' days or is there

some algorithm or other with which I am not familiar ( possibly a

whole book of them LOL!)

>>>hasn't happened yet, but as I said before - its

parents that drive what the DAN!'s do, most people are looking for an easy way

out, not to have to get up at night, people telling them this and that won't

cause yeast when I stand by my thinking that moving metals creates the yeast

not the chelators - hence all the sudden madness on TD's, I've been around a

while, been through DMSA/ALA/MTP/MTPII/TTFD/TDDMPS/EDTA oh and then back to

DMSA, lets make it different, put in a TD, ooops, lets put everything in the

TD, no no IV must be better, lets stick everybody, oops too hard, lets give

suppositories.........................

Been through, you can;t chelate till the gut is healed amnd the

yeast is gone only to do a round and have the yeast come back and stop start

stop start, where do they all end up - chelating through the yeast, Sometimes

it makes me chuckle, sometimes it makes me cry. Nasty reactions to IV's are put

down to all sorts, wild behaviour on TD DMPS is called horns and tails, foowey

I say, I try new stuff that I don't think can do any harm but I dont;

stop doign what I know works and what has the best track

record.................low frequent dosing oral DMSA/ALA :)

What do you know they say - still chelating after 4 years and no

speech? I have my kid back and he comminicates, he never had horns and tails,

he does have a genetic diasbility that presents as Autism, as well as Autism

and Seizure activity, but he gets better without getting worse, I rest my case

:)

Mandi x

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In a message dated 13/05/2006 19:30:45 GMT Daylight Time, simondavis@... writes:

What’s Andy’s stance on NCD Z? I know he thinks Humet is a waste of time.

>>>he says its expensive dirt :)

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In a message dated 13/05/2006 19:30:45 GMT Daylight Time, simondavis@... writes:

What’s Andy’s stance on NCD Z? I know he thinks Humet is a waste of time.

>>>he says its expensive dirt :)

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In a message dated 13/05/2006 19:30:45 GMT Daylight Time, simondavis@... writes:

What’s Andy’s stance on NCD Z? I know he thinks Humet is a waste of time.

>>>Now see Humet, humuvilic (?sp) and fulvic acids they are good things, they may or may not 'chelate' but I still think they are good things to give.

Fulvic is in the NDF+ - some kids have done very well on that

Andy is my hero, I listen but I don;t always obey LOL

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