Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 That is all we charge as well. Ozone and HBOT is different. What kind of chamber are you using Doctor? and what depth? Re: HBOT > > > > > > Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? > > Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > so at your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > agree to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas > found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the > > message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 That is all we charge as well. Ozone and HBOT is different. What kind of chamber are you using Doctor? and what depth? Re: HBOT > > > > > > Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? > > Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > so at your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > agree to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas > found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the > > message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Dear , IV antibiotics before the HBOT treatment, then go to the protocol for Lyme. Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics www.hbot4u.com Re: HBOT > > > > > > > > > Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? > > > Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > > and other > > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > > here are > > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > > so at your > > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > ability to > > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > > agree to > > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas > > found > > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > > researcher > > > or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > following > > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > BODY of the > > > message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > normal mode. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Dear , IV antibiotics before the HBOT treatment, then go to the protocol for Lyme. Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics www.hbot4u.com Re: HBOT > > > > > > > > > Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? > > > Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > > and other > > > alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > > here are > > > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do > > so at your > > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > > ability to > > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > > agree to > > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any > ideas > > found > > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > > researcher > > > or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > following > > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > BODY of the > > > message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > > normal mode. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 Hi , What Lyme protocol are you referring to? Peggy >>Dear , IV antibiotics before the HBOT treatment, then go to the protocol for Lyme. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 Hi , I have long-term Lyme disease, or so I've been told. Three years ago I had something like 11 sessions of IV ozone via major autohemotherapy. The IV included DMSO, and was followed by an IV vitamin cocktail. This all cost me around $4000, plus expenses of travel and staying in a hotel in the D.C. area. It did not improve my condition at all. Following this I went through about 3 months of hardly being able to function because of bone-deep exhaustion--I imagine now it must have been a major detox, although I did do a sauna (not ozone) immediately following each treatment. I also did daily coffee enemas during the ozone therapy, massage for lymphatic drainage, and the whole thing was followed by 6 weeks of weekly colonics, more massage therapy, homeopathics, and high quality supplements. And ultimately a second mortgage on our home to pay for all of it. At no point did I feel anything but worse. Over a year ago I finally caved in and did antibiotic therapy (not IV) for a year. Now I'm worse than I've been at any point. It's all I can do to get out of bed every day, and I spend most of the day in bed. Perhaps Saul or Dr. can comment on my experience and offer some explanation of why it didn't work. Maybe there was something wrong with the protocols. Maybe I didn't have enough treatments. Maybe they shouldn't have used DMSO. I don't know. I still think ozone might help, but my husband is understandably dubious because of this experience. Peggy >>I have late stage Lyme where the bacteria are deeply imbedded in my cells. Usually medicines like antibiotics cannot go there and that is why HBOT is so successful ....Lyme dies in a high oxygen environment and the high pressure in the HBOT forces the o2 deep into the cells. Do you really think ozone shots will work in this case? I was wondering if you know anyone with long term Lyme that has been helped with ozone therapy? Thanks for your help so far. Take Care, >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 Peggy, You write that you are so tired. Reasons can be many, I'm quite experienced myself. What helps me is using Homozon. When the tiredness seems to win it from the Homozon, I take an extra spoon and am at the good side again. Sometimes it is like a fight inside of me, but up to now Homozon always did do the trick. Might take some bathroom visits for a few days. But it keeps me functioning. Regards Tim and/or Peggy Walters wrote: > Hi , I have long-term Lyme disease, or so I've been told. Three years ago I had something like 11 sessions of IV ozone via major autohemotherapy. The IV included DMSO, and was followed by an IV vitamin cocktail. This all cost me around $4000, plus expenses of travel and staying in a hotel in the D.C. area. It did not improve my condition at all. Following this I went through about 3 months of hardly being able to function because of bone-deep exhaustion--I imagine now it must have been a major detox, although I did do a sauna (not ozone) immediately following each treatment. I also did daily coffee enemas during the ozone therapy, massage for lymphatic drainage, and the whole thing was followed by 6 weeks of weekly colonics, more massage therapy, homeopathics, and high quality supplements. And ultimately a second mortgage on our home to pay for all of it. > > At no point did I feel anything but worse. Over a year ago I finally caved in and did antibiotic therapy (not IV) for a year. Now I'm worse than I've been at any point. It's all I can do to get out of bed every day, and I spend most of the day in bed. > > Perhaps Saul or Dr. can comment on my experience and offer some explanation of why it didn't work. Maybe there was something wrong with the protocols. Maybe I didn't have enough treatments. Maybe they shouldn't have used DMSO. I don't know. I still think ozone might help, but my husband is understandably dubious because of this experience. > > Peggy > > >>I have late stage Lyme where the bacteria are deeply imbedded in my > cells. Usually medicines like antibiotics cannot go there and that is > why HBOT is so successful ....Lyme dies in a high oxygen environment > and the high pressure in the HBOT forces the o2 deep into the cells. > Do you really think ozone shots will work in this case? I was > wondering if you know anyone with long term Lyme that has been helped > with ozone therapy? Thanks for your help so far. > Take Care, > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2001 Report Share Posted June 29, 2001 Hi , I started using Homozon for the first time almost a month ago. At first it was incredible--my energy improved so dramatically. But after a few days I guess my body decided to go into cleansing in a big way. I started feeling really bad, and just kept feeling worse and worse. At first I thought I'd get through it, let the toxins leave my system and start feeling good again. But it got to the point where I could hardly get out of bed. So I stopped the Homozon a week ago. Unfortunately, I haven't improved in that period of time. I feel almost completely incapacitated by exhaustion. Whenever I exert myself in the least, I get worse. I really don't know what to do. In the many years that I've been ill I've tried just about everything and spent a fortune. And I've never felt worse. Thanks for trying to help. Peggy >>Peggy, You write that you are so tired. Reasons can be many, I'm quite experienced myself. What helps me is using Homozon. When the tiredness seems to win it from the Homozon, I take an extra spoon and am at the good side again. Sometimes it is like a fight inside of me, but up to now Homozon always did do the trick. Might take some bathroom visits for a few days. But it keeps me functioning. Regards >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 Dr. /, I read your post and was stunned that you see IV O3 more effective than HBOT. How much O3 would you recommend per IV for the treatment to be therapeutic, please; maybe, like 60 cc? Obie. Defend assets with a Trust Indenture from Southern Trust Services. Inquires: southerntrust@... Re: HBOT > > > Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? > Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2001 Report Share Posted June 30, 2001 Dr. /, I read your post and was stunned that you see IV O3 more effective than HBOT. How much O3 would you recommend per IV for the treatment to be therapeutic, please; maybe, like 60 cc? Obie. Defend assets with a Trust Indenture from Southern Trust Services. Inquires: southerntrust@... Re: HBOT > > > Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? > Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2001 Report Share Posted July 1, 2001 Dear Obie, We are calculating the dosage according to the corporal surface... to say something, a tall men 1.80 meters, medium complexion needs 50 c.c. every other day. Using 20 c.c. is worthless. On ADD we saw fast response with O3 than with HBOT, HBOT works pretty nice but for us, the response is faster with O3... M.D. P.S. And cheap! Re: Re: HBOT..Dr. Dr. /, I read your post and was stunned that you see IV O3 more effective than HBOT. How much O3 would you recommend per IV for the treatment to be therapeutic, please; maybe, like 60 cc? Obie. Defend assets with a Trust Indenture from Southern Trust Services. Inquires: southerntrust@... Re: HBOT > > > Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? > Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2001 Report Share Posted July 1, 2001 Dear Obie, We are calculating the dosage according to the corporal surface... to say something, a tall men 1.80 meters, medium complexion needs 50 c.c. every other day. Using 20 c.c. is worthless. On ADD we saw fast response with O3 than with HBOT, HBOT works pretty nice but for us, the response is faster with O3... M.D. P.S. And cheap! Re: Re: HBOT..Dr. Dr. /, I read your post and was stunned that you see IV O3 more effective than HBOT. How much O3 would you recommend per IV for the treatment to be therapeutic, please; maybe, like 60 cc? Obie. Defend assets with a Trust Indenture from Southern Trust Services. Inquires: southerntrust@... Re: HBOT > > > Can you briefly describe what is involved in IV. o3? > Method? Size of syringe barrel? Precautions? > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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