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LDN for the immunological Se-IgA issue, impossible to say if it helps.

To feed his gut, -gut is using not only glutamine, but also, SCFA -

vinegar / acetic acid, caprylic acid, butyric acid and glucose....

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On 5/24/06, Stuart <stuartfinnes1@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I'm struggling to come up with any useful, simple info on any of the

> following - would appreciate some advice from anyone who's genned up

> or been through any or all of these.

>

> As we gradually address one set of problems after another, we are

> now onto Immune deficiency and viral infection issues.

>

> We know from stool tests that my sons digestive sig A levels are low

> enough to be unmeasurable. We've tried adding l-glutamine but that

> appears to be giving us no end of issues - agressive behavious,

> wilfulness way above the normal etc.

>

> Has anyone else either had the issue of low digestive Sig A and

> found another way of addressing it, or seen a similar reaction from

> Glutamin and worked through it? Either would be useful to know.

>

> We're also trying to give him general immune system boosters - IP6,

> Siberean Ginseng and echinacea, but these seem to turn him into a

> real handful as well - again aggressive, stroppy etc etc.

>

> The quandary is that we need to address these issues, but doing so

> is putting us in a position where his home programme is really

> suffering, as our our nerves!

>

> Any ideas?

>

> In addition, we also know he has herpes simplex virus and are

> awaiting yet another medicin - Vancomycin? to address this. Given

> the impact of the immune system boosters, I'm worried about this.

> Anyone used this or any other treatments against virals and seen any

> good or indeed bad side effects?

>

> Finally, in terms of healing his gut, we have good probiotic levels

> and no yeast. But we do have a high ph level which I think it would

> help if we coudl lower it. Has anyone managed to do this and found

> it beneficial?

>

> Sorry, quite a lot of questions on different topics, but these are

> kind of the current outstanding issues for us.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Stuart

>

>

>

>

>

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice.

> If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified

> practitioner.

>

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> Hi all,

>

> I'm struggling to come up with any useful, simple info on any of

the

> following - would appreciate some advice from anyone who's genned

up

> or been through any or all of these.

Hi Stuart,

I'm not sure it would be useful, but there is a file in the FILES

section discussing viruses that might provide you with some

information you don't already have. It was intended to be a

starting point for people who are concerned about viruses for their

kids. You'll find it full of links that may be of use to you.

>

>

>

> We're also trying to give him general immune system boosters -

IP6,

> Siberean Ginseng and echinacea, but these seem to turn him into a

> real handful as well - again aggressive, stroppy etc etc.

There is a list in the viral file of immune boosters. It is a

partial list, but some of them may not have that bad effect on your

child. Here is a link to an article about Th1/Th2 that lists things

helpful and not helpful for the immune system: http://www.diagnose-

me.com/cond/C104791.html It is simple and relatively useful, or at

least it was to me.

>

> In addition, we also know he has herpes simplex virus and are

> awaiting yet another medicin - Vancomycin? to address this. Given

> the impact of the immune system boosters, I'm worried about this.

> Anyone used this or any other treatments against virals and seen

any

> good or indeed bad side effects?

If I were in your position, knowing that a herpes virus is

implicated, I would suggest you consider Valtrex. A number of

parents have seen good things. Although the file focuses on the

natural antivirals for the most part, there is a link to the valtrex

group. I am fairly ignorant of the Rx's but isn't Vanco an

antibiotic? If it is, I'm not sure how it might work on a virus.

Hope this helps,

Anita

>

> Thanks,

>

> Stuart

>

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Hi Stuart

Know how you feel! Not easy topics and not easy to balance

biomedical needs with tutors wanting to be able to work with child.

This is what I have done:

Immune boost - LDN - seeing some nice results after rough beginning,

bought colostrum but still sitting in cupboard. Am hoping that as

address viral issues immune sytem will strengthen.

Anti Virals - joined MB12valtrex group - lots of good info and

guidance here. Have valtrex (also in cupboard!!) but have started

with Virastop - an anti viral enzyme. Good web site

http://www.enzymestuff.com/conditionviruses.htm

this link should take you direct to the viral section. Am also

starting working on getting some natural antivirals in - Olive leaf

extract and monolaurin. Seems is best if you use many different

antivirals as they have different methods of attacking/ work on

different virus types.

Ph levels - butyric acid (short chain fatty acids) good here but

issue is getting it into them! It stinks. Have done little more to

address this.

www.autismanswer.com - another source good info on these topics.

Hope helps - do let me know when you find out more! I am no expert.

Gail

>

> Hi all,

>

> I'm struggling to come up with any useful, simple info on any of

the

> following - would appreciate some advice from anyone who's genned

up

> or been through any or all of these.

>

> As we gradually address one set of problems after another, we are

> now onto Immune deficiency and viral infection issues.

>

> We know from stool tests that my sons digestive sig A levels are

low

> enough to be unmeasurable. We've tried adding l-glutamine but that

> appears to be giving us no end of issues - agressive behavious,

> wilfulness way above the normal etc.

>

> Has anyone else either had the issue of low digestive Sig A and

> found another way of addressing it, or seen a similar reaction

from

> Glutamin and worked through it? Either would be useful to know.

>

> We're also trying to give him general immune system boosters -

IP6,

> Siberean Ginseng and echinacea, but these seem to turn him into a

> real handful as well - again aggressive, stroppy etc etc.

>

> The quandary is that we need to address these issues, but doing so

> is putting us in a position where his home programme is really

> suffering, as our our nerves!

>

> Any ideas?

>

> In addition, we also know he has herpes simplex virus and are

> awaiting yet another medicin - Vancomycin? to address this. Given

> the impact of the immune system boosters, I'm worried about this.

> Anyone used this or any other treatments against virals and seen

any

> good or indeed bad side effects?

>

> Finally, in terms of healing his gut, we have good probiotic

levels

> and no yeast. But we do have a high ph level which I think it

would

> help if we coudl lower it. Has anyone managed to do this and found

> it beneficial?

>

> Sorry, quite a lot of questions on different topics, but these are

> kind of the current outstanding issues for us.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Stuart

>

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There has been some discussion on this list re Liverlife (a liver

support supplement) - lots of people are reporting very good results

with it, it is supposed to balance urine ph levels as well. If you

scroll down the list you'll find a couple of links to UK suppliers and

also the bioray list, which has the print-out protocol in the

file section. LL also has a few ingredients in it that directly help the immune system, reishi

being one of them - again, I posted a link the other day to an online

supplier that sells reishi powders for a very good price (that is

usually a very rare and pricey stuff)

If you decide to give LL a try you will probably need some ph strips as

well, they are widely available but I found the ones selling on ebay to

have the best prices...

Someone here mentioned LDN for immune support, not sure if it helped

our son's immune system (and no one knows that for sure, there is a

small informal study going on at present, they should have some answers

by the end of June), but it has been THE BEST intervention for us so

far. Incredible gains all around, sadly it does not work for all kids

but if you can get hold of it it is definitely worth a try.

Have you tried mb12 so far? It does help the immune system, amongst other things...

Best of luck,

Natasa

>> Hi all,> > I'm struggling to come up with any useful, simple info on any of the > following - would appreciate some advice from anyone who's genned up > or been through any or all of these.> > As we gradually address one set of problems after another, we are > now onto Immune deficiency and viral infection issues.> > We know from stool tests that my sons digestive sig A levels are low > enough to be unmeasurable. We've tried adding l-glutamine but that > appears to be giving us no end of issues - agressive behavious, > wilfulness way above the normal etc. > > Has anyone else either had the issue of low digestive Sig A and > found another way of addressing it, or seen a similar reaction from > Glutamin and worked through it? Either would be useful to know. > > We're also trying to give him general immune system boosters - IP6, > Siberean Ginseng and echinacea, but these seem to turn him into a > real handful as well - again aggressive, stroppy etc etc.> > The quandary is that we need to address these issues, but doing so > is putting us in a position where his home programme is really > suffering, as our our nerves! > > Any ideas?> > In addition, we also know he has herpes simplex virus and are > awaiting yet another medicin - Vancomycin? to address this. Given > the impact of the immune system boosters, I'm worried about this. > Anyone used this or any other treatments against virals and seen any > good or indeed bad side effects? > > Finally, in terms of healing his gut, we have good probiotic levels > and no yeast. But we do have a high ph level which I think it would > help if we coudl lower it. Has anyone managed to do this and found > it beneficial?> > Sorry, quite a lot of questions on different topics, but these are > kind of the current outstanding issues for us.> > Thanks,> > Stuart>

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