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Alwyn L'hoir wrote:

So now I

> can add 'apple bottom sniffer' to my resume.

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LOL, Thanks for the laugh !, I just imagined reading that on your

resume and managed to spray tea all over my computer.

*grins*

Carol

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Alwyn L'hoir wrote:

So now I

> can add 'apple bottom sniffer' to my resume.

*************************************

LOL, Thanks for the laugh !, I just imagined reading that on your

resume and managed to spray tea all over my computer.

*grins*

Carol

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>

> which I probably have no hope of duplicating (but I'll try) is

apple, specifically the

> underside of my sierra beauty apple. It smells like the apple

blossom in spring with some

> light citrusy fruity notes, but the dominant note is 'fresh'. How

the heck can I duplicate

> that! I only have a couple left, (they are oh so good to eat) and

the smell seems to be

> fading. But it was curious, the fabulous fragrance came only from

the underside. So now I

> can add 'apple bottom sniffer' to my resume.

>

Dear Apple Bottom Sniffer, When you said apple bottom I thought

immediately of 2 different essential oils - helichrysum and Roman

(not German) chamomile. Would either one of those remind you of

apple butts... er bottoms?

Suzzette

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> which I probably have no hope of duplicating (but I'll try) is

apple, specifically the

> underside of my sierra beauty apple. It smells like the apple

blossom in spring with some

> light citrusy fruity notes, but the dominant note is 'fresh'. How

the heck can I duplicate

> that! I only have a couple left, (they are oh so good to eat) and

the smell seems to be

> fading. But it was curious, the fabulous fragrance came only from

the underside. So now I

> can add 'apple bottom sniffer' to my resume.

>

Dear Apple Bottom Sniffer, When you said apple bottom I thought

immediately of 2 different essential oils - helichrysum and Roman

(not German) chamomile. Would either one of those remind you of

apple butts... er bottoms?

Suzzette

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Alwyn L'hoir <alwyn@...> wrote: is apple, specifically the

underside of my sierra beauty apple. It smells like the apple blossom in spring

with some

(they are oh so good to eat) and the smell seems to be

fading. But it was curious, the fabulous fragrance came only from the underside.

Hi Alwyn

Amazing! do you mean the underside as in when the peel is pared and the

underside of the skin?

I live in the land of apples !! Herefordshire is known for that and also being

just inside Wales we get some beautiful rare old varieties...

Apart from tincturing my Alba Rose Bush in earnest this year I will be

experimenting with the actual apple blossom (once I find an apple orchard

farmer who will not mind LOL) and see if anything can be released essence wise

from the blossom....

Oh well done.... you know there is always next year... but you say the perfume

fades? Perhaps you will need to intensify...

Every good wish, Janita

Janita Haan Natural Perfume

Flowers of Myddfai project http://www.tiny.cc/flowers817

Janita's Attar http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com

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Hi Alwyn

I met you at Dickens fair and just won the Anya samples.

If you want to met on the week-end sometime we can smell and test them together.

Hope all is well and hi to your son, brightness.

Bb

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Janita wrote

> Amazing! do you mean the underside as in when the peel is pared and

the underside of the skin?

No, I mean the actual bottom of the apple, opposite the stem, where the

blossom fell off. Heavenly, and it doesn't smell like apple blossom,

although there are notes of that...more of the fruit coming through..

> Oh well done.... you know there is always next year... but you say

the perfume fades? Perhaps you will need to intensify...

Don't give me that much credit! I haven't tinctured it yet, it was

only on a couple of apples, and I don't have enough alcohol yet to do

much with..But I'm gonna work on it...accordingly...yuk yuk.

Blessings and joy in your journeys

Alwyn L'hoir

Blue Moon Perfume

http://www.quantumpeace.blogspot.com

http://www.acountrywomansjournal.blogspot.com

http://www.bluemoonperfume.com

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Dear Apple Bottom Sniffer, When you said apple bottom I thought

immediately of 2 different essential oils - helichrysum and Roman

(not German) chamomile. Would either one of those remind you of

apple butts... er bottoms?

Suzzette

hmmmm, they may be part of the accord, but it would be a very small

part, (I have experience with both oils). Maybe violet leaf, too. I'm

still working on the 'fresh' part.

Blessings and joy in your journeys

Alwyn L'hoir

Blue Moon Perfume

http://www.quantumpeace.blogspot.com

http://www.acountrywomansjournal.blogspot.com

http://www.bluemoonperfume.com

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Alwyn L'hoir <alwyn@...> wrote: Janita wrote

No, I mean the actual bottom of the apple, opposite the stem, where the

blossom fell off. Heavenly, and it doesn't smell like apple blossom,

although there are notes of that...more of the fruit coming through..

Don't give me that much credit! I haven't tinctured it yet,

>> oh I thought you had..LOL ..... that should prove interesting to see if it

will give up the smell you describe above.

it was

only on a couple of apples, and I don't have enough alcohol yet to do

much with..But I'm gonna work on it...

>> look forward to hearing the outcome when alcohol is available to you !

Janita & :-D

Blessings and joy in your journeysAlwyn L'hoir

Blue Moon Perfume

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Alwyn L'hoir <alwyn@...> wrote: Janita wrote

No, I mean the actual bottom of the apple, opposite the stem, where the

blossom fell off. Heavenly, and it doesn't smell like apple blossom,

although there are notes of that...more of the fruit coming through..

Don't give me that much credit! I haven't tinctured it yet,

>> oh I thought you had..LOL ..... that should prove interesting to see if it

will give up the smell you describe above.

it was

only on a couple of apples, and I don't have enough alcohol yet to do

much with..But I'm gonna work on it...

>> look forward to hearing the outcome when alcohol is available to you !

Janita & :-D

Blessings and joy in your journeysAlwyn L'hoir

Blue Moon Perfume

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> So now I

> > can add 'apple bottom sniffer' to my resume.

>

> *************************************

> LOL, Thanks for the laugh! I just imagined reading that on your

> resume and managed to spray tea all over my computer.

> *grins*

> Carol

>

I'm laughing too! Imagining you picking up this apple and sniffing

its bottom, and then moving on to that apple and sniffing its little

rump... Too cute. I know will have a field day with that one

when he's back online! (And there's a character in the first Black

Adder series, named Mrs. Applebottom.)

Grinning too,

Andrine

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Dear Alwyn,

I just got some Blue tansy oil and I love it. It smells similar to

chamomile. The first thing that came to me was " fresh apples! " and

crushed baby grass, a whole spring harvest, rich and almost alcolholic,

complex and rich like a dark muscat wine.

Blue tansy immediately became my favorite fragrance. It actually makes

my mouth water. The quince hydrosol I have has distinct note of aging

apple in it. I will send you a little of both with your Queen Sitka

oil.

Kind regards,

Jess Ring

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" Alwyn L'hoir " <alwyn@...> wrote:

>which I probably have no hope of duplicating (but I'll try) is apple,

specifically the underside of my sierra beauty apple. It smells like

the apple blossom in spring with some light citrusy fruity notes, but

the dominant note is 'fresh'. How the heck can I duplicate that! I

only have a couple left, (they are oh so good to eat) and the smell

seems to be fading. But it was curious, the fabulous fragrance came

only from the underside. So now I can add 'apple bottom sniffer' to

my resume.>

One idea I had was Pineapple Weed, Matricaria discoidea. Does that

grow where you are? It's common everywhere I have lived, it's natural

habitat seems to be the edges of parking lots and campsites. Here's an

article on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineapple_weed

It is very apple-ish, with a pineapple note and fresher than the other

Chamomiles. To me, it has less of the " yeasty/beery " note that

Chamomiles have, it's more fruity and bright somehow. It tastes

sweeter, too, less of a bitter herbally, but it still makes a really

strong tasting tea, and I'll bet it has as much oil as it's relatives.

And, I laughed when I read about your apple-sniffing. Last summer, I

carried around a small melon for a couple of weeks, it smelled so

good, musky and sexy but sweet and fruity also. I don't know what kind

it was, it was in a bin of random types at the market, but I was

really sad when my " friend " got squishy and had to go in the compost.

Strength & Wisdom,

leavesofjoy / Micah

www.al-kemi.com

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Hello, all,

My name is Dianne, and I am a recent new member. My interest in

natural perfume is rather long lived, starting around 20 years ago

when i used to go to the health food store and have store clerks mix

from their stock bottles for me. I am sure the ingredients were not

all natural (eg, China Musk), but that is where it al began! This

developed into amateur aromatherapy, and I have quite a stash of

EO's, mostly easily obtained ones from natural food stores (Aura

Cacia and Frontier). More recently is when I discovered other

sources, and I have ordered a few of these higher quality products to

experiment.

I have an " outstanding smell " to share. There is a type of dessert

wine--of the whites, the German style is Troken Beeren Auselese, the

Italian style is Vin Santo, and the eastern european style is

Tokaji. In all 3 cases, the process involves allowing the grapes to

rot on the vine before harvesting. The grapes lose water,

concentrating the sugar, and the " rot " is caused by botrytis fungus.

The resulting wine is sweet, with high alcohol content. And the

scent...raisin, grape, apricot, cherry, carmel... After sharing a

bottle of Vin Santo with friends, I was shocked to find myself

sitting in a comfortable chair, sniffing the empty bottle for quite a

long time!

I also have an EO question. I have 2 nutmeg EO's--one is from a

perfume supplier, one is the lowly Aura Cacia. Both have the

expected nutmeg smell, but also a sort of oily, almost petroleum

scent. Is this normal? I know that some extraction processes

involve organic solvents, but I also know that some botanicals have

volatile ingredients which are sometimes a bit harsh.

Cheers,

Dianne

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B & D <bromo@...> wrote:

> My name is Dianne, and I am a recent new member. I have an

" outstanding smell " to share. There is a type of dessert wine--of the

whites, the German style is Troken Beeren Auselese, the Italian style

is Vin Santo, and the eastern european style is Tokaji....<<

Dianne,

I just discovered this wine, too, the Tokaji version, at a great

restaurant in San Francisco. The very nice waiter gave us (me & hubby)

free glasses of it after we helped him with some herbal ideas for a

health issue he's working on. (we tend to " out " ourselves wherever we

go, it doesn't take long for perfect strangers to find out what we do

& ask about it!).

I smelled my glass for so long, it tasted heavenly but I didn't want

to drink it too fast because then the smell would be gone, too! The

Tokaji we had smelled of caramel and fruit a little bit, but it had

this really interesting other scent pattern going on that I've been

puzzling about how to capture.

There was a lushness to it, a water smell, and coupled with a

minerality, the effect to me was of stone after a rain that had been a

long time in coming. Not like Mitti, exactly, to me that seems more

like wet earth. This was wet stone, like being on a very dry mountain

top and it suddenly rains, or even a little like a wet sidewalk. It

was amazing! We've been thinking about how to get that scent, we might

try some distillations on some Tokaji after we move, see if we can

concentrate it.

Thanks for giving me an excuse to go back to the lovely end of a

really lovely night!

Strength & Wisdom,

leavesofjoy / Micah

www.al-kemi.com

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On Jan 12, 2008, at 11:48 AM, leavesofjoy wrote:

> There was a lushness to it, a water smell, and coupled with a

> minerality, the effect to me was of stone after a rain that had been a

> long time in coming. Not like Mitti, exactly, to me that seems more

> like wet earth. This was wet stone, like being on a very dry mountain

> top and it suddenly rains, or even a little like a wet sidewalk. It

> was amazing! We've been thinking about how to get that scent, we might

> try some distillations on some Tokaji after we move, see if we can

> concentrate it.

Interesting! There was a bit of a " burnt " smell in the Vin Santo,

not unlike a flamed vanilla custard. That was probably the

contribution to the overall caramel scent.

I am pretty sure that since the rotting, freezing and drying of the

grapes on the vine is such a natural process that no two batches will

ever be the same. In addition, the food pairing with the wine will

bring out certain tastes and scents, or will combine to form a 3rd

taste/scent. Perhaps that is also a consideration in your

experience. :)

Cheers,

Dianne

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