I've a question about solids

[Guest guest]

Hello lovely smelling group!

I'm a pure amateur here trying to create a solid perfume. I love the

portability and solids lend a softness that I love. My problem is

that it becomes granular every time, ugh! I suspect it may be a

temperature problem? The mix will disolve on contact but it's FAR

from a pleasant product! I've tried many different approaches with

beeswax, shea butter, olive, coconut and coca butter. Any ideas for me?

Thank you so!

[Guest guest]

On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:25 AM, wrote:

> Hello lovely smelling group!

>

> I'm a pure amateur here trying to create a solid perfume. I love the

> portability and solids lend a softness that I love. My problem is

> that it becomes granular every time, ugh! I suspect it may be a

> temperature problem? The mix will disolve on contact but it's FAR

> from a pleasant product! I've tried many different approaches with

> beeswax, shea butter, olive, coconut and coca butter. Any ideas

> for me?

>

> Thank you so!

If you don't have it you should buy Mandy Aftel's Scents and

Sensibilities. I've made solid perfumes a number of times following

her guidelines. I have usually doubled the recipes. It " becomes "

granular? After a day or something? Be sure you are using the right

kind of vessel to melt the wax and oil in; porcelain is good, or

glass mixing cups are fine, or enamel-covered pots (enamel over

metal). hth

[Guest guest]

<jahv@...> wrote: Hello lovely smelling group!

I'm a pure amateur here trying to create a solid perfume. I love the

portability and solids lend a softness that I love. My problem is

that it becomes granular every time, ugh! I suspect it may be a

temperature problem? The mix will disolve on contact but it's FAR

from a pleasant product! I've tried many different approaches with

beeswax, shea butter, olive, coconut and coca butter. Any ideas for me?

Thank you so!

melt the beeswax or what ever you decide to use first ... take off stove....

add your oils in carrier of choice (all together) stir quickly and evenly pour

into container...

ps lovely little book ... scent & sensibilities Mandy Aftel.... all about

solid perfume making....

good luck

I have used floral wax with good results....or try a combination

Every good wish, Janita

Janita Haan Natural Perfume

Flowers of Myddfai project http://www.tiny.cc/flowers817

Janita's Attar http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com

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[Guest guest]

The mix will disolve on contact but it's FAR

> from a pleasant product! I've tried many different approaches with

> beeswax, shea butter, olive, coconut and coca butter. Any ideas for

me?

I think you heated the sheabutter too hot, that usually become grainy

after over heating.

[Guest guest]

> If you don't have it you should buy Mandy Aftel's Scents and

> Sensibilities. I've made solid perfumes a number of times following

> her guidelines. I have usually doubled the recipes. It " becomes "

> granular? After a day or something? Be sure you are using the right

> kind of vessel to melt the wax and oil in; porcelain is good, or

> glass mixing cups are fine, or enamel-covered pots (enamel over

> metal). hth

>

Thanks for the responses to my query. The perfumes separated after a

day or so. The suggestion that the shea butter was too hot makes

sense as well. I did order Mandy's book straight away! (gotta love

Amazon's one click shopping!) Thanks for the tips.

Peace,

[Guest guest]

>

I'm a pure amateur here trying to create a solid perfume. I love the

portability and solids lend a softness that I love. My problem is

that it becomes granular every time, ugh! I suspect it may be a

temperature problem? The mix will disolve on contact but it's FAR

from a pleasant product! I've tried many different approaches with

beeswax, shea butter, olive, coconut and coca butter. Any ideas for me?

>Janita

melt the beeswax or what ever you decide to use first ... take off

stove.... add your oils in carrier of choice (all together) stir

quickly and evenly pour into container...

HI, I used to have this problem when I first started, back in the day.

Sometimes it was because I was using too much wax, check your ratios of

wax to oil. (Conversely this can happen if you do not stir well.)

Weed taught a way to check by putting a plate in the freezer. When you

have your mix melted, take the plate out of the freezer, and dribble

some on the plate, it will harden to the finished consistency. Also,

if you heat the beeswax first, and add oils that are not the same

temperature, you will have a big mess. (you must be magic, Janita!) I

usually heat the beeswax and carrier together, careful not to boil,

take it off the fire right at the point of melt. Then, after the

oil/wax combo has cooled somewhat, and is still very pourable, I add

the oils at the last possible moment, . That way the EOs are not

heated past their point of tolerance.

Alwyn L'hoir

Blue Moon Perfume

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http://www.bluemoonperfume.com

[Guest guest]

So what is the proper temperature to heat shea butter in order to NOT

have the graininess?

[Guest guest]

tlingit50 <tlingit50@...> wrote: So what is the proper temperature to

heat shea butter in order to NOT

have the graininess?

Arn't there different types or grades of shea butter? I have read that

somewhere so in that case would that increase or decrease the possibility of

graininess when making solids?... I havn't made solids with shea ...... but

someone may chime in here....

Every good wish, Janita

Janita Haan Natural Perfume

Flowers of Myddfai project http://www.tiny.cc/flowers817

Janita's Attar http://www.janitasattars.blogspot.com

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