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In a message dated 08/10/2006 17:16:35 GMT Daylight Time, mark.grabiec@... writes:

He's had a mad week - lots of head banging and biting himself which we think is gut related but it hasn't stopped him learning. We just think we can't take our eye of the gut issue for a single day. But that's fair exchange.

>>>Full moon Steph - great news about the talking. That sense of humour bit it obvisouly genetic

Mandi x

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I know this sounds dumb but is all yeast clostridia? We used

Nystatin for an age, then yeast aid and recently just sacc boulardii

and probiotics. We speak to Anju again on Monday 16th so we'll ask

her then. I think I also hoped that NCD might help with gut but

perhaps that's an ask too far! Tom has had some big melt downs at

school this week which I think are constipation and pain with yeast

added for good measure.

>

> Same here Steph, cannot take our eye off his gut for a nanno

second, and

> like Tom he isn't regressing in any kind of intellectual or what I

call " lost in

> space " way, he keeps the skills he has mastered, but is just

dreadful along

> side them, aggression, OCD etc, but still with us.

> Have been reading a lot this last week on Candida and it's so

amazing

> really to think it can be responsible for so many behaviours,

things had been

> going so well with s gut for so long now I had all but

forgotton the impact

> of yeast on him, and how quickly it can take hold.

> Really good to see Tom is doing so well, three and a half months

is no time

> at all really is it?

> What were you doing before growing minds other than biomed?

> Vicky

>

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Of course, full moooooon. Definitely part boy part wolf. And part

biscuit given half a chance.

>

>

> In a message dated 08/10/2006 17:16:35 GMT Daylight Time,

> mark.grabiec@... writes:

>

> He's had

> a mad week - lots of head banging and biting himself which we

think is

> gut related but it hasn't stopped him learning. We just think we

> can't take our eye of the gut issue for a single day. But that's

fair

> exchange.

>

>

>

> >>>Full moon Steph - great news about the talking. That sense of

humour bit

> it obvisouly genetic

>

> Mandi x

>

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Do you mean signing or actions that he associates with certain

words? TOm definitely needs prompts on some words but others are

really confident.

>

> HI Steph,

>

> couldn't access words until we taught him signs to use

with the words - there was no stopping him from then on - he now

makes up his own. Sounds like he's doing brilliantly.

>

> Jane

> Talking update

>

>

> Just to update - after 20 months of biomed and three and a half

months

> of Growing Minds Tom has now regained 80 words. and today when I

> said " what do you want Tom? " he said " Bread " . And then giggled,

> clearly realising that this talking mullarkey might prove

useful. (The

> one word he never lost was chocolate!)

>

> He can't always access his words on demand but using picture

cards he

> is reliable on 80 words and has about another 30 that pop out

from

> time to time. Echolaic wise he can copy a short sentence (but

not

> retain it for more than a few seconds, however Rome, day, built

etc).

> HIs sense of humour and confidence are also greatly improved.

He's had

> a mad week - lots of head banging and biting himself which we

think is

> gut related but it hasn't stopped him learning. We just think we

> can't take our eye of the gut issue for a single day. But that's

fair

> exchange.

>

> This is a huge step from the silent miserable little chap that

started

> out in February 2005. Thanks listmates!

>

> Steph x

>

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We will, thanks!

> >

> > HI Steph,

> >

> > couldn't access words until we taught him signs to use

> with the words - there was no stopping him from then on - he now

> makes up his own. Sounds like he's doing brilliantly.

> >

> > Jane

> > Talking update

> >

> >

> > Just to update - after 20 months of biomed and three and a

half

> months

> > of Growing Minds Tom has now regained 80 words. and today when

I

> > said " what do you want Tom? " he said " Bread " . And then

giggled,

> > clearly realising that this talking mullarkey might prove

> useful. (The

> > one word he never lost was chocolate!)

> >

> > He can't always access his words on demand but using picture

> cards he

> > is reliable on 80 words and has about another 30 that pop out

> from

> > time to time. Echolaic wise he can copy a short sentence (but

> not

> > retain it for more than a few seconds, however Rome, day,

built

> etc).

> > HIs sense of humour and confidence are also greatly improved.

> He's had

> > a mad week - lots of head banging and biting himself which we

> think is

> > gut related but it hasn't stopped him learning. We just think

we

> > can't take our eye of the gut issue for a single day. But

that's

> fair

> > exchange.

> >

> > This is a huge step from the silent miserable little chap that

> started

> > out in February 2005. Thanks listmates!

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

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What does Colazal actually do? We have a telephone consult with Dr

U and she might prescribe it. I think the one thing that needs to be

more robust is our gut/yeast protocol. Feels like it's on a knife-

edge currently.

> > >

> > > Same here Steph, cannot take our eye off his gut for a nanno

> > second, and

> > > like Tom he isn't regressing in any kind of intellectual or

what I

> > call " lost in

> > > space " way, he keeps the skills he has mastered, but is just

> > dreadful along

> > > side them, aggression, OCD etc, but still with us.

> > > Have been reading a lot this last week on Candida and it's so

> > amazing

> > > really to think it can be responsible for so many behaviours,

> > things had been

> > > going so well with s gut for so long now I had all but

> > forgotton the impact

> > > of yeast on him, and how quickly it can take hold.

> > > Really good to see Tom is doing so well, three and a half

months

> > is no time

> > > at all really is it?

> > > What were you doing before growing minds other than biomed?

> > > Vicky

> > >

> >

> >

>

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He's in major learning mode today! Lots of new stuff. THat said if

you over celebrate everything becomes that. Today " what's this? "

pointing at bus. Tom - Bu. Me: Bussss. Tom: bus. Great. FIve

minutes later to check Me: What's this? Tom: bus. Huge

celebration. two hours later, pointing to butterfly. What's this?

Tom: bus. Well, it's a buh at least! Long, long road but cute

companion on the journey.

> > >

> > > HI Steph,

> > >

> > > couldn't access words until we taught him signs to

use

> > with the words - there was no stopping him from then on - he

now

> > makes up his own. Sounds like he's doing brilliantly.

> > >

> > > Jane

> > > Talking update

> > >

> > >

> > > Just to update - after 20 months of biomed and three and a

> half

> > months

> > > of Growing Minds Tom has now regained 80 words. and today

when

> I

> > > said " what do you want Tom? " he said " Bread " . And then

> giggled,

> > > clearly realising that this talking mullarkey might prove

> > useful. (The

> > > one word he never lost was chocolate!)

> > >

> > > He can't always access his words on demand but using picture

> > cards he

> > > is reliable on 80 words and has about another 30 that pop

out

> > from

> > > time to time. Echolaic wise he can copy a short sentence

(but

> > not

> > > retain it for more than a few seconds, however Rome, day,

> built

> > etc).

> > > HIs sense of humour and confidence are also greatly

improved.

> > He's had

> > > a mad week - lots of head banging and biting himself which

we

> > think is

> > > gut related but it hasn't stopped him learning. We just

think

> we

> > > can't take our eye of the gut issue for a single day. But

> that's

> > fair

> > > exchange.

> > >

> > > This is a huge step from the silent miserable little chap

that

> > started

> > > out in February 2005. Thanks listmates!

> > >

> > > Steph x

> > >

> >

>

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I can second that, all week really fractious and then this morning absolutely

fine, the moon definitely has a big effect on Jay, thanks for reminding us

Mandi xxxxxxxxJosie

>

>

> In a message dated 08/10/2006 17:16:35 GMT Daylight Time,

> mark.grabiec@... writes:

>

> He's had

> a mad week - lots of head banging and biting himself which we think is

> gut related but it hasn't stopped him learning. We just think we

> can't take our eye of the gut issue for a single day. But that's fair

> exchange.

>

>

>

> >>>Full moon Steph - great news about the talking. That sense of humour

bit

> it obvisouly genetic

>

> Mandi x

>

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Oh Steph

So great thanks for posting well well done Tom and you guys too. Its so great to hear of success and all the sweeter when you have been to hell and back to get some.

Keep up the good work lovely.

Caroline

xxx

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I'[m interested can you send it to me off list? ta

Steph

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Same here Steph, cannot take our eye off his gut for a

nanno

> > > > > second, and

> > > > > > like Tom he isn't regressing in any kind of intellectual

or

> > > what I

> > > > > call " lost in

> > > > > > space " way, he keeps the skills he has mastered, but is

just

> > > > > dreadful along

> > > > > > side them, aggression, OCD etc, but still with us.

> > > > > > Have been reading a lot this last week on Candida and

it's so

> > > > > amazing

> > > > > > really to think it can be responsible for so many

behaviours,

> > > > > things had been

> > > > > > going so well with s gut for so long now I had all

but

> > > > > forgotton the impact

> > > > > > of yeast on him, and how quickly it can take hold.

> > > > > > Really good to see Tom is doing so well, three and a half

> > > months

> > > > > is no time

> > > > > > at all really is it?

> > > > > > What were you doing before growing minds other than

biomed?

> > > > > > Vicky

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Thank you! Everything is crossed (will cut off blood supply if not

careful)

>

> Oh Steph

>

> So great thanks for posting well well done Tom and you guys too. Its

so

> great to hear of success and all the sweeter when you have been to

hell and back

> to get some.

>

> Keep up the good work lovely.

>

> Caroline

> xxx

>

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Me too please, i would be very interested to read this as many believe that interstitial Cystitis is caused by Oxalate crystals and as my son has problems with these it might be something worth considering for him

Tia NIKKI xxx

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Same here Steph, cannot take our eye off his gut for a > nanno> > > > > > second, and> > > > > > > like Tom he isn't regressing in any kind of intellectual > or> > > > what I> > > > > > call "lost in> > > > > > > space" way, he keeps the skills he has mastered, but is > just> > > > > > dreadful along> > > > > > > side them, aggression, OCD etc, but still with us.> > > > > > > Have been reading a lot this last week on Candida and > it's so> > > > > > amazing> > > > > > > really to think it can be responsible for so many > behaviours,> > > > > > things had been> > > > > > > going so well with s gut for so long now I had all > but> > > > > > forgotton the impact> > > > > > > of yeast on him, and how quickly it can take hold.> > > > > > > Really good to see Tom is doing so well, three and a half> > > > months> > > > > > is no time> > > > > > > at all really is it?> > > > > > > What were you doing before growing minds other than > biomed?> > > > > > > Vicky> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------> -------> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: > 07/10/2006> > >> >>

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