TOTD 8-8 and the weekend..What do you use as substate or diluent...?

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Hi Folks....

Today's is from Adam Gottschalk.....

What substrate or diluent do you use....?

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If alcohol, what kind and why. If oil, what kind and why. If you prefer

solid perfumes, why? Do you dislike some substrates? Why? Have you tried

several or stuck with only one?

I have been using grape alcohol, but I think the next gallon I get will

be grain alcohol. The grape stuff has its own underlying and very

pronounced scent. I suspect the grain stuff is less so? I don't like oil

and solid perfumes and I've tried them numerous times. If the substrate

is a lens with which to see the aromatic composition, I think alcohol

gives the clearest picture.

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I meself use Everclar 190, or Ambur 190 vodka....If only for the look on

the clerk's face at the liquor store...<G>.....

These are both grain based...

Oil I don't do so much, but it's Fractionated coconut (longevity) or

jojoba (longevity).....Note....jojoba is technically a liquid wax....

One of these days I'll have enough of the fragrant waxes to start

playing with those....

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W. Bourbonais

L'Hermite Aromatique

A.J.P. (GIA)

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Bourbonais wrote:

> Hi Folks....

>

> Today's is from Adam Gottschalk.....

>

> What substrate or diluent do you use....?

> If alcohol, what kind and why. If oil, what kind and why. If you prefer

> solid perfumes, why? Do you dislike some substrates? Why? Have you tried

> several or stuck with only one?

I use alcohol, because I find the scent comes through purest that way.

You can't smell straight from the bottle, but once you have sprayed it

on your skin and the alcohol has evaporated, you get the pure scent of

the oils. I also really enjoy the whole act of spraying on perfume and

many of my customers do too.

I started out using jojoba and macadamia oil as a base...which gives a

much softer note to the scents, which can be nice for some scents. I

have also made solid perfumes in the past, but found I needed a larger

quantity of the perfume oils to achieve the same intensity of scent.

I do find I have to be much more careful about ventilation nowadays

though...the alcohol is after all a potent solvent and you don't want to

be inundated with it's fumes all day...mind you I think that is

something we tend to overlook anyway...since we're working with natural

ingredients, it's easy to underestimate the long term effects of

continual exposure to them in large quantities.

Ambrosia

http://www.perfumebynature.com.au

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190-proof Everclear. Filtered through a Britta charcoal water filter

system to remove impurities. I have a bottle of organic grape

perfumer's alcohol. I used a bit of it for one of my tinctures. And

I haven't touched it since. Why? Well, I never felt quite at home

with using something that has a scent of its own to contribute to the

mix, even if that scent is lovely as all heck, like grape alcohol. I

just want to start with the blankest slate that I can - the cleanest

palette.

I've thought about trying FCO and jojoba. But somehow, I don't like

the monkeying that you have to do to make sure stuff doesn't get

quenched in it. Maybe one of these days I'll feel moved to try it

though...

Solids? Again, I've just not felt the urge yet. Even though I love

the idea. I used to like solid perfumes back in the 70s. They travel

quite well. And speaking of traveling, this just occurred to me;

airport security isn't likely to make you surrender a solid perfume

like they might with a nice bottle of hand made liquid perfume.

Cheers!

Andrine

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....since we're

> working with natural

> ingredients, it's easy to underestimate the long term

> effects of

> continual exposure to them in large quantities.

>

>

> Ambrosia

> http://www.perfumebynature.com.au

>

Very true Ambrosia.... I work very near a window with it open and in a vaulted

ceiling room.....I find the high ceiling very useful for aireating the fumes so

I don't get essenced out lol... even so I take regular breaks to clear headspace

etc.....

Janita

http://www.janitahaan.com

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> Hi Folks....

>

> Today's is from Adam Gottschalk.....

>

> What substrate or diluent do you use....?

>

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My favourite medium is organic alcohol derived from sugar beet ... I like the

way one can layer and build nuances into a perfume and with alcohol it has a

sheerness which I love.

Depending on a clients wish is also a consideration. I have been enjoying

working with solid perfumes and oil perfumes recently.... Different medium and

approach ... I have incorporated floral waxes and am interested to explore that

further. Jojoba oil for solid and oil based perfumes although I am planning on

exploring others...

Janita

http://www.janitahaan.com

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