Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Hi Everyone, I searched the archives and read the FAQ on " Infusing and Tincturing.doc " but I still have a question. I hope this isn't considered inappropriate for the list. I bought some cocoa absolute and it's a thick viscous mass that smells divine. But how do I get it into a perfume? I assume I have to tincture it in alcohol. Do I put a few drops into some perfumer's alcohol and wait until it dissolves? Or do I put it in oil and infuse it? I've used benzoin resin (a thick liquid) in jojoba oil and it never seems to blend, it just sits at the bottom of the bottle, so I think there are some materials that require alcohol tincturing and others that require oil infusions. Any advice on where to go for a list of such things? I hesitate to buy more absolutes before I know what to do with them. I especially want to try seaweed, beeswax, cognac, green tea and hay absolutes. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 On Apr 30, 2008, at 8:10 PM, christina cheney wrote: > Hi Everyone, > I searched the archives and read the FAQ on " Infusing and > Tincturing.doc " > but I still have a question. I hope this isn't considered > inappropriate for > the list. I bought some cocoa absolute and it's a thick viscous > mass that > smells divine. But how do I get it into a perfume? I assume I have to > tincture it in alcohol. Do I put a few drops into some perfumer's > alcohol > and wait until it dissolves? Or do I put it in oil and infuse it? > I've used > benzoin resin (a thick liquid) in jojoba oil and it never seems to > blend, it > just sits at the bottom of the bottle, so I think there are some > materials > that require alcohol tincturing and others that require oil > infusions. Any > advice on where to go for a list of such things? I hesitate to buy > more > absolutes before I know what to do with them. I especially want to try > seaweed, beeswax, cognac, green tea and hay absolutes. Thanks! My approach is where I have arrived after a year of diving in. I don't dilute materials before blending them; I just can't imagine it. I can, however, easily wrap my mind around blending ingredients into what will be a finished perfume. I don't even see much advantage to blending individual accords; the way an accord smells is _not_ the way it will smell in the finished perfume. For thick and viscous absolutes, a boiling-water bath does the trick. You need to let the absolute sit in the boiling water for a few minutes; when you take it off the burner, take the water-bath vessel and the absolute both from the heat together to begin adding the essence. When I'm finished blending, 90% of the time I put the beaker on a burner, on a very low heat (grape alcohol boils at a much lower temperature than water), to make sure all ingredients are dissolved. For concretes, I use an itsy-bitsy shovel to scoop the material out and guesstimate the number of drops. Anything in jojoba (or any other oil/wax) and many CO2 extracts will not dissolve in alcohol. I only use 190-proof organic grape alcohol. I'm pretty sure the aversion to alcohol stems from the inferior, denatured, and toxic " alcohol " used in the perfumes sold at department-store perfume counters, which will give anyone a rash. The organic alcohol I use evaporates within seconds and so far has not given a single one of my test subjects any kind of skin reaction. People get used to thinking they can't use alcohol perfumes without realizing that real, high-grade perfume alcohol is a completely different animal from most. It smells nice and is benign. I wouldn't use any other substrate (unless required). If you think of what you blend in as a lens, alcohol gives you the clearest, most unhampered view of your perfume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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