Guest guest Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Note: forwarded message attached. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Hi all this is a long post Before I start I'd like to say how shocked and deeply saddened we are by the loss of Dr Rimland the Grandfather of autism. A brief history of : Three years ago we started the biomed journey by removing gluten and dairy with positive results. Last year s diet consisted of mostly meat buckwheat bread cellery sticks tahini and all the low phenol and low salicalite vegies. Although he lost all the stimms linking to phenols and sals he started developing other problems. He was flicking his fingers infront of his eyes SWALLOWING AIR (this one was a major problem his ABA therapists had to monitor and graph it so we could try to link it to a food) he was stimming to calcium, unable to put on weight, unable to absorb high sulphur foods, walking like a drunk, had the gait stance. We also introduced vitamin A around May that year and removed acidophilus (also helps break oxalate)after an OAT test said to remove that type of bacteria. After Kaz mentioning the low oxalate diet we started to look into it and realised that most of b's foods were high oxalate. We reevaluated his diet added alotmore b6 and magnesium citrate then most of his problems disapeared we had a huge oxalate dump and things got better. After being low oxalate for a few weeks we notice problems with promotor glutathione and meat ie swallowing air again. According to Owens (trying low oxalates group moderator and speaker at DAN!! conferences) The body can make oxalate from glycine (contained in glutathione and promotor) and from hydroxyproline (in meat). So we removed glutathione got promotor compounded without the glycine and limited his meat. Things went well with the swallowing air issue gone but his speach didn't thrive like it first did with promotor. So we re-evaluated and added in the promotor with glycine once a week and speach quality improved but the air swallowing was back with a bit of a gait stance again. Five weeks ago we decided to try out the vitamin k2 issue. We gave him glutathione cream to do a before and after test and the next day he was MAJORLY SWALLOWING AIR and walking abit wonky ABIT SPACEY ETC. So we started first with VSL:#3 an extremely high potent probiotic gave him promotor with glycine and meat 2 out of 3 meals and reduced his vitamin A IT TOOK 3 DAYS OF THIS BEFORE HE STARTED PRODUCING OXALATE ISSUES WOW!!!!!!! The next day we took it even a step further by completely removing vitamin A,chaning VSL#3 to high doses of lactobac to check it wasn't the acidophilus of VSL#3 that was stopping the oxalate issue for him, giving him promotor with glycine and meat in 2 out of 3 meals and that night our final test of glutathione cream.....THE NEXT DAY WAS AMAZING... THE GLUTATHIONE CREAM HAD BEEN ABSORBED AND WORKED NO AIR SWALLOWING. He woke up went straight out to the kitchen for Breakfast sat down and tried to strap[ his chair in and said goommmmm after I said " Good Morning " to him. I rang the school and asked them to look out for his air swallowing ( attends woodbury ABA school and is closely monitored) they said there was absolutely none and he was very very switched on. Sorry for the long post BUT YES OUR THEORY IS THAT VITAMIN K2 HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE OXALATE ISSUE will still have vitamin A but at night time 12 HOURS AFTER THE PROBIOTICS I hope this information helps someone else WE ARE NOW FINALLY ABLE TO DO TD-DMPS NOW THAT HE TOLLERATES GLYCINE THANK GOD.... Sharon G mum to 6asd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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