Re: Mixing alcohols: WARNING on SD (denatured) alcohol YOU CANNOT SELL UNLESS I

[Guest guest]

> Listen...

>

> If you sell your perfumes, by law that alcohol MUST BE BE DENATURED,

> or you are selling something that is considered by the Bureau of

Alcohol

> and firearms and

> by your state as a drinkable beverage.

>

> If you sell your perfumes with alcohol, you better darn well get a

license.

> You can get in mega trouble!

>

> Beth

>

Doesn't the act of adding bee and whale vomit, animal pee, and

essential oils, resins, waxes, and tinctures that are not for internal

use, render that alcohol undrinkable, and thereby, " denatured " ? I

would think that ATF would certainly consider that type of end product

denatured.

Then again, homeless folk drink Sterno... so I guess someone could

technically drink our juice too (or Drain-O for that matter) --

although at what our stuff costs, I think folks would be deterred as

well. The best single-malt scotch is cheaper!

But I don't know. Maybe I'm being really naive... Am I out in left

field?

Andrine

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

>

> I know this subject is repeated too much. I have read the achives

> already. But just wanted to be sure.

>

> The denatured alcohol, I am using has a slight 0.25% Cetrimide. So

> it is ok?

>

> Cetrimide is an antiseptic agent with detergent properties. It has

> the wide spectrum of antiinfectives against bacteria and fungi. It

> is used as an ingredient of shampoos for treating seborrhoea and

> psoriasis. A very dilute solution can be applied topically for the

> relief of sore gums.

>

> Thanks and sorry!

>

> Angi

>

Hi Angi,

High-proof alcohol doesn't need an antiseptic in it. Bacteria, mold,

and fungus can't grow in pure alcohol.

Cetrimide is Alkyltrimethylammonium bromide. It falls into the

category of quaternary ammonium compounds (known in the tonsorial

industry as " quats " - from one of my previous lives), and is used,

among other things, for sanitizing barbering implements.

Quaternary ammonium compounds are any of a group of ammonium salts in

which organic radicals have been substituted for all four hydrogens of

the original ammonium cation. They have a central nitrogen atom which

is joined to four organic radicals and one acid radical. The organic

radicals may be alkyl, aryl, or aralkyl, and the nitrogen can be part

of a ring system. They are prepared by treatment of an amine with an

alkylating agent.

So - why would this need to be in a high-proof alcohol? (Except to

render it chemically unfit for drinking...)

I'm not a chemist or a scientist, so I don't know if this falls in the

technical category of " natural " . Personally, I'd not use it, but we

can all have varying preferences... Anyone else care to pick up where

I leave off? : )

Cheers!

Andrine

[Guest guest]

Andrine,

Thanks so much for your reply to my question. Appreciated!!!

Since I am just blending for my own use, I probably just use vodka or

grape alcohol, jojoba oil/sweet almond oil! Prefer to be safe!

But I will not give up. I am trying to find out if I can get some small

supply of pure ethanol from here.

Thanks again!

Angi

[Guest guest]

>

> Andrine,

>

> Thanks so much for your reply to my question. Appreciated!!!

> Since I am just blending for my own use, I probably just use vodka

> or grape alcohol, jojoba oil/sweet almond oil! Prefer to be safe!

> But I will not give up. I am trying to find out if I can get some

> small supply of pure ethanol from here.

>

> Thanks again!

>

> Angi

>

You're welcome, Angi.

Good luck!

Andrine

P.S. Have you looked into getting a special permit through your state

liquor control agency so that you can buy ethanol? It's not as sweet

like grape alcohol, but you can run it through a charcoal filter

system (like Britta) to filter out impurities.