Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 In my experience working with kickboxers I have found that the most important aspect to powerful striking is technique and timing. I have seen a lot of kicboxers who look fit and seem to have great technique but when they land a shot it feels like you were being hit with a shoelace. For example, I was watching some Thai fighters train about three weeks ago. These athletes possessed unbelievable power in their cut kicks/roundhouse kicks. I believe the difference between them and our Canadian fighters was purely mechanical and a matter of timing. They were not bigger or stronger than the Canadians. They seemed to be able to coil their bodies and release the kick at just the right moment with blistering speed and power. On this point, you may want to consider videoing your athlete and analyzing his striking technique. You might even want to catch some video of an athlete who has powerful strikes and compare and analyze the two clips- (in my opinion these movements are far too fast to analyze unless you have a very well trained eye- without video you could miss a lot of the intricacies of the execution). I think from a training perspective, exercises that require proper timing of body segments would be great (e.g. snatches from a hang, cleans from a hang, pulls etc...). Of course one needs a lot of expertise to teach these lifts properly so it may not be appropriate. I think training RFD with varying loads is ideal while using the principle of compensatory acceleration. Sticking to movements in which mutliple joints are involved is also very important. You should also consider the weight class that your athlete is in and ensure that your training prescription doesn't increase their muscle mass to the point of them having trouble making weight. Check out some of Dietmar Schmidtbleicher's stuff on IRFD (starting strength) as I believe he has discussed this issue related to boxers. One more thing, I have found that kickboxers have notoriously bad posture (probably due to their fighting stance i.e rounded shoulders, IR of shoulders...) and they are at considerable risk for injury in the weight room unless you address this issue right at the beginning. Matt Jordan University of Calgary Calgary, Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 I think you loaded up your question to get the wrong answer. Instead of " how should he train with weights to get more punching power? " the question should be " how can he get more punching power/ " . I say this because punching power is not so much about big muscles or limit strength, etc... as it is about body mechanics. The key to a powerful punch or kick is learning to transmit twisting, forward, and falling motions of the WHOLE BODY efficiently through the limb. While stronger muscles can aid in this, they are far from the key element. The best gym training tool for this is probably judicious heavy bag work (i.e, not just wailing away on it). There are some styles of Gung Fu and derived arts in which the whole body is relaxed, even at the moment of impact - the body weight, motion and inherent integrity of relaxed body tissues are all that's required. Bruce Lee did much independent research and writing about striking power, he has several how-to books which deal specifically with ways to conceptualize and train striking power, which might help. Better yet, would be for your buddy to seek out a professional boxing coach or martial arts instructor who can demonstrate impressive punching power, and has the ability to teach (I bet he won't look like a musclehead either). There is no substitute for personal instruction, and informed feedback. Wilbanks Madison, WI > My buddy's hobby is kickboxing, he recently entered a > local amateur circuit where rounds only go up to > three, each is a minute long. He is an excellent > technician, possesses cat-like grace and has the > stamina to spend the better part of three rounds > fighting all-out. The only thing is that he doesn't > have much in the way of striking power. How should he > train with weights to rectify this? He is currently > doing (squats 5x5, stiff leg deadlifts 5x5, military > press 5x5, chins 5x5) twice a week plus some ab and > neck work, 1 min between sets. I forget the % of his > MR but those sets are submaximal. > > Rossi > London, U.K. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 It would be hard to develop a specific program on the limited amount of information that you have provided. There are a number of factors that come into play when developing individualized training and nutritional programs. I will say that a proper strength program can benefit athletes in all sports. Keep sight of the main goal which is to improve performance in your specific sport. If your squat max increases this does not necessarily mean your performance as kickboxer will increase. A proper weight training program will improve your ability to perform in your sport. Developing power for combat sports is detailed in Staley's book The Science of Martial Arts Training. I have also written two articles titled REAL STRENGTH TRAINING FOR BOXERS 1 AND 2 , which can be found at www.halesoptimumphysique.com . The articles look in depth at a recent training cycle I designed for a couple of pro boxers . Staley's forum at www.myodynamics.com is an excellent source for info on training for combat sports. ThankYou, Hale www.halesoptimumphysique.com Winchester Ky 40391 Weight training for increased hitting power (kickboxing) > My buddy's hobby is kickboxing, he recently entered a > local amateur circuit where rounds only go up to > three, each is a minute long. He is an excellent > technician, possesses cat-like grace and has the > stamina to spend the better part of three rounds > fighting all-out. The only thing is that he doesn't > have much in the way of striking power. How should he > train with weights to rectify this? He is currently > doing (squats 5x5, stiff leg deadlifts 5x5, military > press 5x5, chins 5x5) twice a week plus some ab and > neck work, 1 min between sets. I forget the % of his > MR but those sets are submaximal. > > Rossi > London, U.K. > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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