Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 Sue I wonder if this is God's way of telling a nasty person to be nice. Or or maybe this is God's challenge to you to be nice anyway and you seem to be up to the challenge. Nice going Sue Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 Dear Sue: Here is a post that Dave made on this subject some time ago and also a website from someone who beat IBS. Hope that helps a bit Christel http://www.overcomeibs.com/section3.htm ===== IBS is NOT Just an Irritable Bowel! I believe I have mounting evidence from various doctors' clinical experiences, research studies, ex-sufferers' stories and personal experimentation, which suggests that an impaired or strained digestive system is responsible for IBS and not just a " dysfunctional " or " irritable " bowel. In fact, I believe that an irritable bowel is a possible symptom of a broader problem – a strained digestive system. For the IBS sufferer, there's two potentially, directly-related problems: * Incomplete food digestion – maldigestion. * Unfriendly bacteria overgrowth in the small intestine and imbalance in the colon – intestinal dysbiosis. Underlying maldigestion may be low or inadequate stomach acid, mildly impaired/reduced pancreatic, gall bladder or liver function. Incompletely digested food can feed and promote unfriendly bacteria overgrowth/imbalance. Bacteria can ferment undigested carbohydrates to produce gas (causing bloating) and possibly toxins – which can possibly cause pain or cramping, and affect the production and degradation of essential intestinal hormones and neurotransmitters (such as motilin). Uncontrolled, intestinal-hormone production and decline may be a factor in bowel spasms, constipation and diarrhoea along with nutrient deficiency, enzyme insufficiency, dehydration, poor muscle tone, stress, and others. Possible symptoms of maldigestion include: * Stomach gurgling * Undigested food in stool * Bloating * Stomach cramps * Excessive gas * Mineral and vitamin deficiencies * Diarrhoea * Constipation * Heartburn * Nausea * Increased intestinal sensitivity * Increased urination * Anal itching * Foul smelling foods Possible symptoms of intestinal dysbiosis include: * Food sensitivities * Chronic fatigue * Joint pain * Insomnia * Headaches * Bloating, diarrhoea and constipation * Athlete's Foot and other fungal infections * Recurrent sore throats * Food allergies * Vitamin and mineral deficiencies Because the two disorders can be directly related, it's difficult to link the specific symptoms to the two individual disorders. What can cause maldigestion and intestinal dysbiosis? Well, numerous things are possible including, antibiotics (especially broad spectrum), low stomach acid, various chemicals and toxins, long-term dehydration, excessive consumption of alcohol, various drugs, excessive fat consumption and poor diet, stress, preservatives, additives, food colourings, environmental factors, various toxins, excessive consumption of enzyme-inhibiting foods and anti-nutrients, gallstones, etc. How can maldigestion and intestinal dysbiosis be eliminated? I believe if you can eliminate both of these then you will cure IBS. This is exactly what I have done. To achieve this you will need some kind of plan and it will take at least a few months. Your plan may include the following: * Drink at least 12 eight-ounce glasses of water per day for about a week or so then drop to no less than 8. * Exercise daily * Identify and reduce stress * Liver, kidney and gall-bladder flushes. * Bowel cleanse. * Unfriendly bacteria elimination – 2 days herbal antibiotics, 2 days probotics, 2 days herbal antibiotics, 2 days probotics. * Eat a diet that maintains a healthy body and intestinal ecology, and stimulates the digestive system. * Use of various supplements for a short while to aid food digestion and provide essential nutrients. I'm working on converting these ideas to easy-to-follow, IBS-beating tips available free at: www.IBS-Tips.co.uk Please let me know your thoughts. Regards, Dave. ===== Dietary changes are important in most cases of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). A holistic perspective would include increasing dietary fiber, eliminating allergenic foods, using enteric-coated preparation of peppermint oil, using additional supplementation of lactobacillus acidophilus, vitamin E, and borage/flax oil. Additionally, you should address mental/emotional factors such as stress, fatigue, depression, anxiety and sleep problems. Your natural food store should have a brand of peppermint oil that is coated so that it is not so rapidly absorbed and makes it into the large intestine. I usually advise 1 pill three times daily between meals. The borage/flax combination is taken 2 caps twice daily with meals. I'd be very surprised if you were not significantly better in 3 months. Don't just take the supplements and fiber without some dietary changes. In time, you will probably be able to eat some of your allergens or irritants in moderation. Suspicious foods are milk products, sugar and wheat, but getting tested for your individual reactions would be best. The ELISA ACT or ELISA IgE/IgG4 would be the better allergy tests to have ordered. R e l a t e d s t o r i e s : Hypnosis as Treatment for IBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2001 Report Share Posted April 27, 2001 > >I work with a lady who has IBS. She gets a terrible excruciating pain in her >right lower abdomen that lasts for about 4-8 hours. It starts out slow and >then really elevates. She has to lay in bed for the whole time and >eventually it goes away. She at first thought it was from cabbage so she >stopped eating cabbage for a year, then she had an episode w/o eating the >cabbage, so now that's ruled out. She's not the nicest person in the world >if you get my drift, so its hard to talk to her about this stuff to get any >details, but this was all the info. I could glean from her. I would like to >help her despite her " nasty disposition " so if anyone has any suggestions, >I'd really appreciate it. I've heard a toxic bowel (especially a stoppedp one) creates a nasty disposition and bad mood/irritability. I find this is true with myself. The lower right side sounds like appendix and cecum, region of worms. Sounds to me like a serious parasite cleanse is in order. I am not a Dr., this is just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2001 Report Share Posted April 28, 2001 Thanks very much for that Ed. Yes, I have often wondered about this myself. I would like to try to help her cuz then maybe if she was cured, she wouldn't be so nasty! LOL! Sue In a message dated 4/28/01 2:08:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, e2jhale@... writes: Sue I wonder if this is God's way of telling a nasty person to be nice. Or or maybe this is God's challenge to you to be nice anyway and you seem to be up to the challenge. Nice going Sue Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 I would read up on colostrum. www.immunetree.com Donna Irritable Bowel SyndromeHi All, I work with a lady who has IBS. She gets a terrible excruciating pain in her right lower abdomen that lasts for about 4-8 hours. It starts out slow and then really elevates. She has to lay in bed for the whole time and eventually it goes away. She at first thought it was from cabbage so she stopped eating cabbage for a year, then she had an episode w/o eating the cabbage, so now that's ruled out. She's not the nicest person in the world if you get my drift, so its hard to talk to her about this stuff to get any details, but this was all the info. I could glean from her. I would like to help her despite her " nasty disposition " so if anyone has any suggestions, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, Sue Subscription email: mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2001 Report Share Posted April 30, 2001 I have been diagnosed in the past with IBS and what has helped me the most during times of pain is peppermint oil capsules. Later I found that cat's claw also helped alot. Changing your diet is one of the most important things to do. I still suffer from pains on occassion but usually only after I've been eating junk food. Also probiotics are good. Hope this helps. Rhonda > I work with a lady who has IBS. She gets a terrible excruciating pain in her > right lower abdomen that lasts for about 4-8 hours. It starts out slow and > then really elevates. She has to lay in bed for the whole time and > eventually it goes away. She at first thought it was from cabbage so she > stopped eating cabbage for a year, then she had an episode w/o eating the > cabbage, so now that's ruled out. She's not the nicest person in the world > if you get my drift, so its hard to talk to her about this stuff to get any > details, but this was all the info. I could glean from her. I would like to > help her despite her " nasty disposition " so if anyone has any suggestions, > I'd really appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 Rhonda, Do you have a suggestion about which probiotics? My husband has IBS with diarrhea, bloating, and cramping in the lower left quadrant. The only thing that ever helped him was a drug called Lotronex that was taken off the market in Nov. Thanks in advance. Kerri > I have been diagnosed in the past with IBS and what has helped me the most during times of pain is peppermint oil capsules. Later I found that cat's claw also helped alot. Changing your diet is one of the most important things to do. I still suffer from pains on occassion but usually only after I've been eating junk food. Also probiotics are good. > > Hope this helps. > Rhonda > > > I work with a lady who has IBS. She gets a terrible excruciating pain in her > > right lower abdomen that lasts for about 4-8 hours. It starts out slow and > > then really elevates. She has to lay in bed for the whole time and > > eventually it goes away. She at first thought it was from cabbage so she > > stopped eating cabbage for a year, then she had an episode w/o eating the > > cabbage, so now that's ruled out. She's not the nicest person in the world > > if you get my drift, so its hard to talk to her about this stuff to get any > > details, but this was all the info. I could glean from her. I would like to > > help her despite her " nasty disposition " so if anyone has any suggestions, > > I'd really appreciate it. > > > > Thanks, > > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 I did and it concerns me, Donna. We keep hearing about how cow's milk isn't good for us, so why should the colostrum be any different?? Terri > I would read up on colostrum. www.immunetree.com > > Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2001 Report Share Posted May 1, 2001 Hi Kerri, Has your husband tried Zantac, they helped me. Good luck finding something thing to help, IBS is horrible. Smiles to you and your husband, Deborah The NL Come visit us @ http://birdchild.com or eMail me at deb@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 Because there is no milk in colostrum. It is totally different. Well, there is no milk if it is Immune Trees, everyone else collects theirs so many hours after birth that it does have milk in it. But immune tree collects in the first 6 hrs, after the calf has fed, and so it is pure colostrum and, in fact it helps people with milk allergies to not have milk allergies. Donna Re: Irritable Bowel SyndromeI did and it concerns me, Donna.We keep hearing about how cow's milk isn't good for us, so why should the colostrum be any different??Terri> I would read up on colostrum. www.immunetree.com > > DonnaSubscription email: mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 > Rhonda, > Do you have a suggestion about which probiotics? My husband has > IBS with diarrhea, bloating, and cramping in the lower left > quadrant. The only thing that ever helped him was a drug called > Lotronex that was taken off the market in Nov. Thanks in advance. Hi Kerri, I use Protec by Natural Factors. It has L. rhamnosus, L. acidophilus, B. longum, B. bifidum. Has your husband tried Cat's Claw? I also found it to be helpful and it is known to help treat long standing conditions of the digestive tract. I'm not taking it anymore, but it really helped when I was having IBS symptoms. I was also taking an over-the-counter (but have to ask the pharmacist for it) coated peppermint oil capsule brand name Colpermin. Hope this helps, Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 << Do you have a suggestion about which probiotics? >> ===== I searched and received this info. Sounds good to me. Is anyone familiar with Essential Formulas? The maker of this product. A bit pricy. $ 34 and $ 9 shipping. Christel ===== Dr. Ohhira's probiotic capsules contain 12 strains of " live " lactic acid bacteria, four types of organic acids, ten vitamins, eight minerals, 18 amino acids, and FOS. By-products like hydrogen peroxide and certain natural antibiotics also are present. TWELVE STRAINS OF LIVE LACTIC ACID BACTERIA1 · Bifidobacterium breve ss. breve · Bifidobacterium infantis ss. infantis · Bifidobacterium longum · Enterococcus faecalis TH 10 · Enterococcus faecium · Lactobacillus acidophilus · Lactobacillus bulgaricus · Lactobacillus casei ss. casei · Lactobacillus fermentum · Lactobacillus helveticus ss. jagurti · Lactobacillus plantarum · Streptcoccus thermophilus FOUR ORGANIC ACIDS · Lactic Acid · Fumaric Acid · Formic Acid · Acetic Acid TEN VITAMINS* · Biotin** 10.8 · Carotene 0.03 · Folic Acid** 4.00 · Inositol 49.0 · Niacin 0.78 · Pantothenic acid 0.80 · Riboflavin 0.30 · Thiamin 0.04 · Vitamin B6** 86.0 · Vitamin B12** 0.23 EIGHT MINERALS* · Calcium 176 · Iron 4.59 · Magnesium** 44.6 · Manganese 263 · Phosphorus 173 · Potassium 538 · Sodium 337 · Zinc** 676 EIGHTEEN AMINO ACIDS* · Alanine 0.31 · Arginine 0.25 · Aspartic acid 0.87 · Cystine 0.08 · Glutamic acid 1.63 · Glycine 0.23 · Histidine 0.22 · Isoleucine 0.39 · Leucine 0.71 · Lysine 0.34 · Methionine 0.14 · Phenylalanine 0.38 · Proline 0.67 · Serine 0.43 · Threonine 0.35 · Tryptophan 0.09 · Tyrosine 0.22 · Valine 0.47 1CFU of all strains of LAB equal 7.8 billion. *Values shown as mg/100g unless otherwise noted. **Values shown as micrograms/100g. The product's enteric-coated capsule is made from vegetable gum (agar-agar), bean protein and gluten-free, whole-grain wheat. It ensures the integrity and storage stability of its contents by preventing oxidation and product degradation. It preserves the product from external microbiological contamination and eliminates the need for artificial preservatives and additives. It also protects its contents from the corrosive action of harsh stomach acids. The product is a 100 percent natural, non-dairy, vegetarian formula, product. Chemicals, preservatives, artificial additives, coloring agents and animal by-products are never used. Only naturally maturing organic fertilizers are used in the growing process. Chemical fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides are not permitted. Mountain spring water is the only liquid used in the product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2001 Report Share Posted May 7, 2001 Rhonda, Is Cat's Claw an herb? What does it do? Kerri > > Rhonda, > > Do you have a suggestion about which probiotics? My husband has > > IBS with diarrhea, bloating, and cramping in the lower left > > quadrant. The only thing that ever helped him was a drug called > > Lotronex that was taken off the market in Nov. Thanks in advance. > > Hi Kerri, > > I use Protec by Natural Factors. It has L. rhamnosus, L. > acidophilus, > B. longum, B. bifidum. Has your husband tried Cat's Claw? I also > found it to be helpful and it is known to help treat long standing > conditions of the digestive tract. I'm not taking it anymore, but it > really helped when I was having IBS symptoms. I was also taking an > over-the-counter (but have to ask the pharmacist for it) coated > peppermint oil capsule brand name Colpermin. > > Hope this helps, > Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2001 Report Share Posted May 7, 2001 > Rhonda, > Is Cat's Claw an herb? What does it do? Hi Kerri, I found this on Cat's Claw (also called Una De Gato): http://user.aol.com/genery/una.htm One of the most powerful immune builders in the country today. " Once the immune system has begun to malfunction, a broad spectrum of health complications can set in. " -Alternative Medicine- The Definitive Guide-, therefore keep in mind that a proper functioning immune system will keep the body healthy and free of disease. Some health care enthusiasts say if the immune system is working at its maximum capacity, even the AIDS virus would not be able to infiltrate the body. Researchers have recognized this product as premiere for the immune system and a metabolic tonifying herb of the highest order, equal if not superior in some functions to the world's foremost tonic herbs. " The Opener of the Way " , as Una de gato is sometimes referred, is a wonderful intestinal tract cleanser. While Keeping the colon cleansed, it allows specific nutrients to best do their J.O.B. Una de Gato or Cat's Claw, comes exclusively from the Peruvian Rainforest. Its giant woody vine grows more that 100 feet into the forest canopy. The name, cat's claw, is derived from the shape of the thorns found on the vine that closely resemble the claws of a cat. Scientist have Isolated six alkaloids from the Una de Gato vine. Patent research shows that four of these alkaloids have a pronounced enhancement effect on the ability of white blood cells and macrophages to attack, engulf and digest harmful micro organisms, foreign matter and debris. Una de gato has been favorably compared to other immune fortifying herbs such as Pau d' arco, echinacea, golden seal, astragalus and Siberian Ginseng; along with other products like caprylic acid and shark cartilage. Combined with two other well known and high Quality herbs, Echinacea & Astragalus, NSP's Cat's Claw Combination is a great regimen to help keep the Immume and Intestinal systems strong and healthy. The synergistic action enhances the effectiveness of Una De Gato. Each capsule is 446mg and is recommended to be taken once per day with meals. Cat's claw has been Historically known to aid in... Cancer AIDS A weak Immune system Colon cleansing Arthritis Sinus Low blood High blood Anemia and more... : ) Hope this helps. Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 Thanks for the info! Kerri > > Rhonda, > > Is Cat's Claw an herb? What does it do? > > Hi Kerri, > > I found this on Cat's Claw (also called Una De Gato): > > http://user.aol.com/genery/una.htm > > One of the most powerful immune builders in the country > today. " Once the immune system has begun to malfunction, a > broad spectrum of health complications can set in. " > -Alternative Medicine- The Definitive Guide-, therefore > keep in mind that a proper functioning immune system will > keep the body healthy and free of disease. Some health care > enthusiasts say if the immune system is working at its > maximum capacity, even the AIDS virus would not be able > to infiltrate the body. > > Researchers have recognized this product as > premiere for the immune system and a metabolic tonifying > herb of the highest order, equal if not superior in some > functions to the world's foremost tonic herbs. " The Opener > of the Way " , as Una de gato is sometimes referred, is a > wonderful intestinal tract cleanser. While Keeping the colon > cleansed, it allows specific nutrients to best do their J.O.B. > > Una de Gato or Cat's Claw, comes > exclusively from the Peruvian Rainforest. Its giant woody > vine grows more that 100 feet into the forest canopy. The > name, cat's claw, is derived from the shape of the thorns > found on the vine that closely resemble the claws of a cat. > > Scientist have Isolated six alkaloids from the Una de Gato > vine. Patent research shows that four of these alkaloids have > a pronounced enhancement effect on the ability of white > blood cells and macrophages to attack, engulf and digest > harmful micro organisms, foreign matter and debris. > > Una de gato has been favorably compared to other immune > fortifying herbs such as Pau d' arco, echinacea, golden seal, > astragalus and Siberian Ginseng; along with other products > like caprylic acid and shark cartilage. > > Combined > with two > other well > known and high > Quality herbs, > Echinacea & > Astragalus, NSP's > Cat's Claw > Combination is a > great regimen to > help keep the > Immume and > Intestinal systems > strong and healthy. > The synergistic > action enhances the > effectiveness of Una > De Gato. Each > capsule is 446mg > and is > recommended to be > taken once per day > with meals. > > Cat's claw has been Historically > known to aid in... > > Cancer > AIDS > A weak Immune system > Colon cleansing > Arthritis > Sinus > Low blood > High blood > Anemia > and more... > > : ) Hope this helps. > Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Sherry, My friend with the inclusion-body myositis also had irritable bowel syndrome which was cured " miraculously " when she stopped eating gluten. SHe had tried all sorts of other things to no avail. A gluten free diet is also recommended for our so called immune system disorders too. But each of us is different. Just thought I'd pass that on. Gail > From: " Sherry " <tifkas@...> > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:38:55 -0400 > <Babs56p@...> > Cc: <rheumatic > > Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: inclusion body myositis > > I eat it because it helps me with the IBS. I have fruit in it too and that > also helps. It also seems to stay down better than most foods. I would like > to find something else that would work for me as I am getting kinda tired of > eating it but as long as it works I will have to keep on keeping on... > Thanks though for the information and for thinking about me. > Peace, > Sherry > > > Re: rheumatic Re: inclusion body myositis > > >> Hi Sherry: Have you tried not eating oatmeal? About a year ago I noted > here >> that some people have problems with oatmeal and noticed that whenever I > ate >> it (which was quite a bit for breakfast), I flared and my IBS acted up. I >> cut it out and really noticed a difference. Just a suggestion. >> >> Babs >> RA 8/98, DX 4/99, AP 11/99 >> 200 mg. Doxycycline >> 125 mcg. Synthroid >> 2 mg. Hytrin >> Mestinon >> Vits. & Misc. Suplmts. >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Dear Gail, My severe migraines mostly cleared up when I stopped eating gluten. I have been tested for Celiac disease and tested negative. However, I know that gluten affects me. My I.B.S. has not cleared up. Every thing seems to affect me but gluten is the worst. Rosemary Trudeau. Re: rheumatic Re: inclusion body myositis > > > > > >> Hi Sherry: Have you tried not eating oatmeal? About a year ago I noted > > here > >> that some people have problems with oatmeal and noticed that whenever I > > ate > >> it (which was quite a bit for breakfast), I flared and my IBS acted up. I > >> cut it out and really noticed a difference. Just a suggestion. > >> > >> Babs > >> RA 8/98, DX 4/99, AP 11/99 > >> 200 mg. Doxycycline > >> 125 mcg. Synthroid > >> 2 mg. Hytrin > >> Mestinon > >> Vits. & Misc. Suplmts. > >> > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Links on irritable bowel syndrome (IBS): http://users.bigpond.net.au/allergydietitian/FA_FI_IBS.html http://www.uspharmacist.com/NewLook/CE/Ibs/lesson.cfm http://www.familypractice.com/references/referencesframe.htm?main=/references/AB\ FPGuides/Bowel/bowel.htm http://www.panix.com/~ibs/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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