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Hi !

Hey, I also had vague traveling joint pain and eye inflamation. My

inflamation is an eye disease called scleritis. It is an inflamation

deep in the sclera (whites of the eye). It was really painful. I

haven't seen a Rheumatologist yet and am researching the drugs that I

think he would most likely prescribe. I'm glad to hear it's working

for you--less the few side effects.:( May I ask your age? I'm 35--36

in 2 months. Sounds like we have a similar story. Was your ANA

positive?

Hope to hear from you!!

Smiles,

Jeanne in Ohio

> Hi! I'm also new to the group. This is the first time I've ever

joined a support group but it seemed like a really good idea. I

started on Placquenil, Prednisone and Celebrex about 2 months ago. I

was actually referred by my eye doctor to a family practice doctor

who then referred me to a Rheumatologist (Rheumy, I think I've seen

in some postings :) ). I have had chronic eye inflammation for some

time and after 3 eye doctors who treated it like an infection, only

to have it return in a few weeks, this doctor started asking some

questions, such as, was I frequently tired, did my joints hurt, etc.

I'm really grateful to her for not brushing me off.

>

> I had been having pain in my hands, wrists and ankles but really

started having trouble with my hips and could barely walk if I sat

too long at work. My RH factor was negative but sed rate was 50.

I'm not really sure what all that means. The rheumy office ran the

tests and the doctor just called me back with the results and called

in the meds so I haven't gotten too much information. She never said

for sure it was RA, really didn't say much of anything. From what

I've been able to read, the drugs she's prescribed are for RA but I

wasn't sure since the RH factor was neg. I go back to her in another

month.

>

> The meds have made a HUGE difference already. My biggest problems

with them are the difficulty sleeping, night sweats and upset

stomach. Nothing I can't deal with but since I went on all 3 at

once, I'm not sure which is causing what. Any ideas? Is anyone else

on Placquenil? I'm hoping the Prednisone is the culprit because from

what the dr said, I'm just going to be on it short term.

>

> I'm still trying to get used to all of this and sometimes it's a

little overwhelming and a bit scary. Any words of wisdom would be

greatly appreciated.

>

>

>

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Hi, Jeanne,

It was so nice to hear from you. I just turned 45 a couple of weeks ago.

Fortunately, my ANA test was negative. It definitely sounds like we have

similar symptoms. Have you had any tests run yet? It sounds like some of these

diseases are hard to pin down for some reason. I think I have a lot more

reading to do but pretty much everything I've read so far says the same thing.

Any good resources you can recommend?

in Omaha

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Hi !

Hey, I also had vague traveling joint pain and eye inflamation. My

inflamation is an eye disease called scleritis. It is an inflamation

deep in the sclera (whites of the eye). It was really painful. I

haven't seen a Rheumatologist yet and am researching the drugs that I

think he would most likely prescribe. I'm glad to hear it's working

for you--less the few side effects.:( May I ask your age? I'm 35--36

in 2 months. Sounds like we have a similar story. Was your ANA

positive?

Hope to hear from you!!

Smiles,

Jeanne in Ohio

> Hi! I'm also new to the group. This is the first time I've ever

joined a support group but it seemed like a really good idea. I

started on Placquenil, Prednisone and Celebrex about 2 months ago. I

was actually referred by my eye doctor to a family practice doctor

who then referred me to a Rheumatologist (Rheumy, I think I've seen

in some postings :) ). I have had chronic eye inflammation for some

time and after 3 eye doctors who treated it like an infection, only

to have it return in a few weeks, this doctor started asking some

questions, such as, was I frequently tired, did my joints hurt, etc.

I'm really grateful to her for not brushing me off.

>

> I had been having pain in my hands, wrists and ankles but really

started having trouble with my hips and could barely walk if I sat

too long at work. My RH factor was negative but sed rate was 50.

I'm not really sure what all that means. The rheumy office ran the

tests and the doctor just called me back with the results and called

in the meds so I haven't gotten too much information. She never said

for sure it was RA, really didn't say much of anything. From what

I've been able to read, the drugs she's prescribed are for RA but I

wasn't sure since the RH factor was neg. I go back to her in another

month.

>

> The meds have made a HUGE difference already. My biggest problems

with them are the difficulty sleeping, night sweats and upset

stomach. Nothing I can't deal with but since I went on all 3 at

once, I'm not sure which is causing what. Any ideas? Is anyone else

on Placquenil? I'm hoping the Prednisone is the culprit because from

what the dr said, I'm just going to be on it short term.

>

> I'm still trying to get used to all of this and sometimes it's a

little overwhelming and a bit scary. Any words of wisdom would be

greatly appreciated.

>

>

>

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Hi,

For those of you new to navigating the Rheumatology gambit, there are

over 100 types of arthritis and probably a similar number of auto-

immune diseases. A lot of these diseases mimic each other and are

very hard to really distinguish sometimes. I think many of the

treatments are the same though. But some may vary quite a bit in some

instances.

Definitely work hard with your medical team to figure out a correct

diagnosis. Always trust in yourself and what your body is telling you!

Good luck to both of you!

-Meghan

> > Hi! I'm also new to the group. This is the first time I've

ever

> joined a support group but it seemed like a really good idea. I

> started on Placquenil, Prednisone and Celebrex about 2 months

ago. I

> was actually referred by my eye doctor to a family practice

doctor

> who then referred me to a Rheumatologist (Rheumy, I think I've

seen

> in some postings :) ). I have had chronic eye inflammation for

some

> time and after 3 eye doctors who treated it like an infection,

only

> to have it return in a few weeks, this doctor started asking some

> questions, such as, was I frequently tired, did my joints hurt,

etc.

> I'm really grateful to her for not brushing me off.

> >

> > I had been having pain in my hands, wrists and ankles but

really

> started having trouble with my hips and could barely walk if I

sat

> too long at work. My RH factor was negative but sed rate was

50.

> I'm not really sure what all that means. The rheumy office ran

the

> tests and the doctor just called me back with the results and

called

> in the meds so I haven't gotten too much information. She never

said

> for sure it was RA, really didn't say much of anything. From

what

> I've been able to read, the drugs she's prescribed are for RA but

I

> wasn't sure since the RH factor was neg. I go back to her in

another

> month.

> >

> > The meds have made a HUGE difference already. My biggest

problems

> with them are the difficulty sleeping, night sweats and upset

> stomach. Nothing I can't deal with but since I went on all 3 at

> once, I'm not sure which is causing what. Any ideas? Is anyone

else

> on Placquenil? I'm hoping the Prednisone is the culprit because

from

> what the dr said, I'm just going to be on it short term.

> >

> > I'm still trying to get used to all of this and sometimes it's

a

> little overwhelming and a bit scary. Any words of wisdom would

be

> greatly appreciated.

> >

> >

> >

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Hi ,

This is a very informed and compassionate group. You've come to the right

place for information!

When I was diagosed with RA in late January, I was prescribed methotrexate,

folic acid and prednisone.

Since I was so fearful of taking the methotrexate, I started the folic acid

and prednisone 5 days before taking my first dose of methotrexate. My

experiences were: the prednisone was a wonder drug. In 4 hours I felt like a

different person. I could move, sit, lay down and sleep, no pain!

On the other hand, I had very unpleasant sweats and flushing, sometimes hot,

sometimes cold. I also lost the abilitity to tell when I was full after

eating a meal. Everyone here warned me of weight gain while taking

prednisone. It definitely increased my appetite! I took the prednisone

from the end of January through April. Towards the end I began having very

unpleasant headaches and my eyes began bothering me. I'm glad to say my

appetite has returned to normal, my headaches have disappeared and my eyes

are back to normal too. I was so concerned I made an appointment with my

eye doctor. My eyes were fine, but now he is watching me for glaucoma and

cataracts, both possible side effects from these potent medicines so many of

us take.

I've never suffered the nausea from the methotrexate so many here have

complained of. I do take it at night, with a meal, then basically " sleep it

off " . And I never miss taking the folic acid.

Like you, I am RH negative. My SED rate is also normal as have been my

x-rays. The only tests that revealed problems were the C-Reactive protein

test (which indicates inflammation) and a bone scan. The bone scan revealed

inflammation in my feet, ankles, knees, hands, wrists, and shoulders.

My C-Reactive protein was at 32 when first tested. It's gone done to 13

since I started treatment.

I don't have any experience with plaquenil. What dosages are you taking of

each medicine, and when are you taking them?

Hope you are having the wonderful success I have taking the prednisone!

Suzanne

[ ] Also a new member

> Hi! I'm also new to the group. This is the first time I've ever joined a

support group but it seemed like a really good idea. I started on

Placquenil, Prednisone and Celebrex about 2 months ago. I was actually

referred by my eye doctor to a family practice doctor who then referred me

to a Rheumatologist (Rheumy, I think I've seen in some postings :) ). I

have had chronic eye inflammation for some time and after 3 eye doctors who

treated it like an infection, only to have it return in a few weeks, this

doctor started asking some questions, such as, was I frequently tired, did

my joints hurt, etc. I'm really grateful to her for not brushing me off.

>

> I had been having pain in my hands, wrists and ankles but really started

having trouble with my hips and could barely walk if I sat too long at work.

My RH factor was negative but sed rate was 50. I'm not really sure what all

that means. The rheumy office ran the tests and the doctor just called me

back with the results and called in the meds so I haven't gotten too much

information. She never said for sure it was RA, really didn't say much of

anything. From what I've been able to read, the drugs she's prescribed are

for RA but I wasn't sure since the RH factor was neg. I go back to her in

another month.

>

> The meds have made a HUGE difference already. My biggest problems with

them are the difficulty sleeping, night sweats and upset stomach. Nothing I

can't deal with but since I went on all 3 at once, I'm not sure which is

causing what. Any ideas? Is anyone else on Placquenil? I'm hoping the

Prednisone is the culprit because from what the dr said, I'm just going to

be on it short term.

>

> I'm still trying to get used to all of this and sometimes it's a little

overwhelming and a bit scary. Any words of wisdom would be greatly

appreciated.

>

>

>

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Hi Suzanne,

Thanks for sharing your experience with Prednisone. I'm having the very same

problems you had - sometimes hot, sometimes cold. I have a little fan on my

desk at work and I'm constantly turning it on and off, in between putting on my

sweater! The people around me must think I'm crazy!!!! (I've only shared with

a couple of people what's going on).

My appetite has also increased. It's very frustrating. I've been assured that

will disappear when I quit taking the Predisone. I just hope it's in time to

fit into my summer clothes! But it's definitely a small price to pay for taking

away the pain. I told my husband it was amazing - I feel like my old self

again. It scares me a little to think I'll be going off of it. What if the

pain comes back. The plaquenil supposedly takes up to 12 weeks to get into your

system so hopefully it will do the trick by the time I come off the prednisone.

Did you notice the pain come back when you went off?

I'm on Celebrex, 200 mg twice a day and placquenil, 200 mg twice a day and the

prednisone 5mg. I was taking the prednisone at night but was having such

trouble sleeping, I switched to morning as of today. Hopefully, that will help.

I'm not familiar with C-Reactive protein. What is exactly is that and what does

that tell the doctor? It's good you aren't having nausea with the methotrexate.

It sounds like a lot of people are taking that particular drug. Is it just a

matter of personal preference on the doctor's part, or do certain drugs work

better for certain symptoms?

Thanks again for sharing. Hope you're having a nice, pain-free day!

in Omaha

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At what point did your doctor start you on plaquenil? My doctor is

slowly reducing my Prednisone (I started on 40mg and am now on 30mg) but

has not started me on Plaquenil yet. I'm not sure how low he wants the

Prednisone before he starts the Plaquenil, but I am worried because I

keep hearing how long it takes for the Plaquenil to work. I worry that

my pain will return before the Plaquenil has a chance to kick in. I

don't go back to see him until June 12th.

Deb

(my diagnosis is Undifferentiated Connective Tissue Disease)

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Deb,

My doctor started me on the plaquenil right away, at the same time as the

prednisone and celebrex. I've only seen her once so far. I have to go back

again on June 7th. I'm on a much lower dose of Prednisone, though. Maybe that's

why your doctor hasn't started you on anything else yet. I'm amazed at all the

different kinds of treatments and medications everyone seems to be on. I don't

know what my exact diagnosis is at this point. Hopefully, I'll find out more

when I go in June.

Hope you're having a good day.

-Omaha

From: dtoms

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:15 AM

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,

At what point did your doctor start you on plaquenil? My doctor is

slowly reducing my Prednisone (I started on 40mg and am now on 30mg) but

has not started me on Plaquenil yet. I'm not sure how low he wants the

Prednisone before he starts the Plaquenil, but I am worried because I

keep hearing how long it takes for the Plaquenil to work. I worry that

my pain will return before the Plaquenil has a chance to kick in. I

don't go back to see him until June 12th.

Deb

(my diagnosis is Undifferentiated Connective Tissue Disease)

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Hi ,

I work in a small HR Dept. One girl coordinates the hiring process, one

girl does benefits, and I do most of the rest. Between us, one is still

taking tamoxifen for cancer and has been treated for high blood pressure for

years, the other one has very high blood pressure and various stress and

irritable bowel problems. When I was diagnosed with RA, it didn't seem like

too big a deal in the scheme of things! We do everything by committee

(vbg). When I had thyroid surgery, I had made arrangements to go to a

certain hospital. When I got back to the office and we discussed it, I

ended up calling my doctor and changing hospitals, mainly because of the

anesthesiologists each hospital used. A little knowledge is a dangerous

thing! So between all our various ailments and our ages, no one ever knows

what to expect when they come into our offices, heat, fans,

air-conditioning, you name it!!

> Thanks for sharing your experience with Prednisone. I'm having the very

same problems you had - sometimes hot, sometimes cold. I have a little fan

on my desk at work and I'm constantly turning it on and off, in between

putting on my sweater! The people around me must think I'm crazy!!!! (I've

only shared with a couple of people what's going on).

The appetite increase does go away. For me almost immediately. Now if the

weight would go as easily. I shared all your same fears and concerns.

Didn't want to go off the prednisone, didn't want to take the methotrexate,

would the pain come back? For more than 8 weeks, probably closer to 10 or

11 weeks, the prednisone was the main reason I felt better. Then one day,

it was almost like an epiphany. I had this amazing sense of well being. I

can almost say I " felt " the methotrexate " kick in " . I knew at that point I

could start decreasing the prednisone. I started at 15 mg. Dropped to 10 mg.

and got stuck there for a number of months. My doctor changed our strategy

and I started dropping down 1 mg. at a time. I was ready to stop taking it,

I developed miserable headaches the last month I was taking prednisone, and

I was tired of wanting to eat everything is sight. After stopping the

prednisone, I added back 12.5 mg. of Vioxx, and for the most part, I feel

just fine. I have occasional stiffness, some pain, once in a while, just

last night my shoulders were painful while trying to sleep. Seem okay now

though. It's so much better than before, I don't pay it much attention. But

I know what you mean, those first days on prednisone were like a miracle!!

> My appetite has also increased. It's very frustrating. I've been assured

that will disappear when I quit taking the Predisone. I just hope it's in

time to fit into my summer clothes! But it's definitely a small price to

pay for taking away the pain. I told my husband it was amazing - I feel

like my old self again. It scares me a little to think I'll be going off of

it. What if the pain comes back. The plaquenil supposedly takes up to 12

weeks to get into your system so hopefully it will do the trick by the time

I come off the prednisone. Did you notice the pain come back when you went

off?

Good point about taking prednisone in the morning. I, too, took it at night

and had a devil of a time sleeping. My doctor laughed when he realized what

I had done. He told me it was a diurnal drug, take it in the morning. And,

you know, he was right. I did just fine after I changed when I took it!

> I'm on Celebrex, 200 mg twice a day and placquenil, 200 mg twice a day and

the prednisone 5mg. I was taking the prednisone at night but was having

such trouble sleeping, I switched to morning as of today. Hopefully, that

will help.

C-reactive protein is just another test to gauge whether inflammation is

present. It has been the only test I've been given, other than the bone

scan, that showed I had something abnormal going on.

From what I've heard here, and read in books and on the internet,

methotrexate is an " old " drug that is well-tolerated by most and effective

against the pain and damage caused by RA. If it doesn't work, then I think

physicians move on to other drugs looking for the right combination.

> I'm not familiar with C-Reactive protein. What is exactly is that and

>what does that tell the doctor? It's good you aren't having nausea with

>the methotrexate. It sounds like a lot of people are taking that

>particular drug. Is it just a matter of personal preference on the

>doctor's part, or do certain drugs work better for certain symptoms?

Almost time to head for the gym. Have a good day!

Suzanne (in somewhat cooler NW FL)

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In a message dated 9/4/02 5:17:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

miss_april@... writes:

> I also went and joined s site.

> I am from TN, I am 33, and while I stay at home, I do some WAHM.

> I homeschool the kids and we all could stand to eat better.

>

April,

Welcome to our family...I am sure you will find great support here. Also let

me welcome you to the Clubhouse...in the chatroom I am

reducingred. When you come into the RS chatroom you will find other folks

from Tenn...hope to see you soon.

Rae

260/165/140-150???

If it is to be...it is up to me.

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