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thanks, i never even thought of that. i understand they need guidelines and

limitations. i did go to the township food pantry. the man looked right at my

round belly. (like you can't survive on that for awhile??) that's what it

felt like anyway. for some canned goods and ramen noodles?? i feel bad

enough as it is. kathy in il

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Kathy -

I'm sorry about all of the aggravation and red tape. It sounds like they

are being ridiculous. Also, I find it odd that he wouldn't even refer you

to food banks. I know our church runs a food bank and I'm sure they're less

rigid and ridiculous. They are simply set up to help anyone who needs it -

no credit checks required.

You may want to consider bringing your case to your local councilperson or

assemblyman, they may be able to cut through some of that red tape. I used

to work for a state assemblyman in NY and we dealt with cases like this all

the time.

Hang in there. - (in Virginia)

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>Subject: [ ] public aid

>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:49:26 EDT

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>i just came from my public aid laughing. they were not laughing as loud

>this

>time though. again i was 30 over for food stamps, but only $30 for general

>assistance. i am qualified for a medical card, but after a spend down of

>1377/mo. but dan is eligible for a medical card until he is 19. (go

>figure!!)

>they say they figure you are to pay 1/2 of you income on residential. so

>with

>our income 1360? they say 1/2 is 780. i pay 759!! i don't get how i am

>supposed to pay my living expenss plus 1377 for medical when that is more

>than i make in a month?!?! i tried to explain to the guy 759 plus 150

>utilities, plus 150 medicine. so i asked if he could tell me about food

>pantries, he said he could not refer me because of my income!!! kathy in

>il

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i was talking to one of my neighbors and he has a friend who's mom is the

supervisor over there. he said he would talk to her to see if she could help

us in any way. also someone from work gave me another agency name in the area

that handles fema $. i don't really know what that would do for me, but it is

worth a phone call to ask. also i think sometime next week i will be walking

into catholic charities. we have been playing phone tag for 3 weeks now. i

did get my fidelity check so at least i have this to tie me over.

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thanks lane!! i have to try to do this because if not i will have to go back

to work. at least a part time job. but then the question. what can i do??? i

find a job i think physically i can do, but 6-8hr shifts. i don't think i can

handle that. i couldn't do 4 hour shifts 5 days a week. i've thought about

babysitting. but not sure if i can do that. what if they took off down the

road. how can i chase them? kathy in il

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Kathy, I have wanted to go back to work to but if I can't work full time I

don't get insurance and if I work part-time I lose my medicade. I know I

can't be on my feet that long. I went back to work in a dr.'s office 4hrs a

day for two days a week, that was perfect, gave me extra money and broke the

boredom but it took medicade a week to find out then it all started to cave

in so I quit.

now I spend my time in front of the computer and visiting my nephew in the

hospital and Keep my sis company.

I just gave up the idea of work.

Judy in Indy

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Kathy,

In most states there is the Salvation Army and community action agencies.

They usually have food shelves as well as clothing shelves. State Aid are

suppose to help people but they give everyone the run around.

When I lived in FL I had to get state aid. They have lots of rules but I did

qualify. I had to be in complanice with there rules though. I had to be

working or going to school. I chose to get my GED. I passed it with one of

the highest scores in the state of FL. After that I enrolled in college prep

classes. I was able to get a Pell Grant of $1500.00 per semster.

I know that the money and the food stamps does not strecth the whole month.

Lots of churches have food banks and they usually are very wonderful people.

I know the look that people give when you go for help. I look at it this way,

I am not in this postion because I chose to be there. I have a child that is

very ill and I can't work because of it. I have to look at my family and

myself and do what I need to do. Also, I look at that fact that I worked from

16 yrs old. I paid my SS and taxes, so I am entitled to get help. Its not

that you don't want to work but you can't work. I get very angry with these

people that abuse the system. Those people make it hard for people like you

and me to get the help we need.

just told me to tell you hello and be strong. You and your son are in

our thoughts and prayers.

and

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Dear Kathy...I've had to ask fo assistance with food, too. It is

difficult, and thankfully most are gracious in giving. But I know it

hurts when people give you THAT look. I'm sorry. I am glad you took

courage in hand and got some things you needed.

Much love & Many hugs...

Tess

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kathy, i am so sorry. this situation is so disgusting. and that's

exactly why i haven't, as yet, applied for medicaid, etc. here in

texas. we have no children still at home, but my husband is on

ssdi and i'm sure that his income would be 30.00 over the limit

or something silly like that. and it just all makes me so angry.

sooner or later i have to try though, since i am unable to work.

i haven't applied for ssdi yet either because i still don't have

a diagnosis. i don't know how you can apply when you don't know

what's wrong.

kathy don't give up! maybe you could try writing to every one

from your councilman, mayor, state officials, etc. keep us

posted. o.k. we care.

lane

--- kringlemom@... wrote:

> i just came from my public aid laughing. they were not laughing

> as loud this

> time though. again i was 30 over for food stamps, but only $30

> for general

> assistance. i am qualified for a medical card, but after a

> spend down of

> 1377/mo. but dan is eligible for a medical card until he is 19.

> (go figure!!)

> they say they figure you are to pay 1/2 of you income on

> residential. so with

> our income 1360? they say 1/2 is 780. i pay 759!! i don't get

> how i am

> supposed to pay my living expenss plus 1377 for medical when

> that is more

> than i make in a month?!?! i tried to explain to the guy 759

> plus 150

> utilities, plus 150 medicine. so i asked if he could tell me

> about food

> pantries, he said he could not refer me because of my income!!!

> kathy in il

>

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Kathi,

What a no-win situation you describe. $30 over the maximum limit sure isn't

much. It seems to me that people who work with folks applying for public

assistance, food stamps, etc. become very hard hearted. Imagine refusing to

refer you to a food pantry!! These individuals have to hope they are never

in your shoes. Bet they wouldn't be so forbearing as you have been.

I keep racking my brains for sage advice. It appears you are exploring all

the options available to you. You have to catch a break eventually.

Hang in there, Kathi.

Suzanne

[ ] public aid

> i just came from my public aid laughing. they were not laughing as loud

this

> time though. again i was 30 over for food stamps, but only $30 for general

> assistance. i am qualified for a medical card, but after a spend down of

> 1377/mo. but dan is eligible for a medical card until he is 19. (go

figure!!)

> they say they figure you are to pay 1/2 of you income on residential. so

with

> our income 1360? they say 1/2 is 780. i pay 759!! i don't get how i am

> supposed to pay my living expenss plus 1377 for medical when that is more

> than i make in a month?!?! i tried to explain to the guy 759 plus 150

> utilities, plus 150 medicine. so i asked if he could tell me about food

> pantries, he said he could not refer me because of my income!!! kathy in

il

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Judy,

Crazy system, isn't it? I would bet, with the current shortage of nurses,

that many offices would be glad to have the services of someone like

yourself for short stints like you describe. It seems like so many

government services require that participants be totally dependent. A real

overhaul needs to take place, to allow disable people to be able to keep

their insurance while allowing the individual to become partially

independent. Maybe you could become an advocate for changing the current

laws?

Something to think about,

Suzanne

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> Kathy, I have wanted to go back to work to but if I can't work full time I

> don't get insurance and if I work part-time I lose my medicade. I know I

> can't be on my feet that long. I went back to work in a dr.'s office 4hrs

a

> day for two days a week, that was perfect, gave me extra money and broke

the

> boredom but it took medicade a week to find out then it all started to

cave

> in so I quit.

> now I spend my time in front of the computer and visiting my nephew in the

> hospital and Keep my sis company.

> I just gave up the idea of work.

> Judy in Indy

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you are unbelievable gina!!! i don't know how you find all these links. i am

very greatful. i hope you have a nice mother's day. kathy in il

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Your story is a sad one, Kathy. I'm so sorry you are experiencing such

frustration and humiliation. This is not the way such a wealthy society

should work.

Here are some links that I hope will help:

http://www.northernilfoodbank.org:8080/

http://www.coolministries.org/

http://www.waukeganweb.net/areahelp.html

http://www.northstarnet.org/likhome/lilc/agencies.html

http://www.ncsc.dni.us/court/lake/PUB_SERV/Pub_serv.htm

http://www.iwin.org/

Thinking of you,

[ ] public aid

> i just came from my public aid laughing. they were not laughing as

loud this

> time though. again i was 30 over for food stamps, but only $30 for

general

> assistance. i am qualified for a medical card, but after a spend down

of

> 1377/mo. but dan is eligible for a medical card until he is 19. (go

figure!!)

> they say they figure you are to pay 1/2 of you income on residential.

so with

> our income 1360? they say 1/2 is 780. i pay 759!! i don't get how i am

> supposed to pay my living expenss plus 1377 for medical when that is

more

> than i make in a month?!?! i tried to explain to the guy 759 plus 150

> utilities, plus 150 medicine. so i asked if he could tell me about

food

> pantries, he said he could not refer me because of my income!!! kathy

in il

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It's not me, it's the Internet, Kathy! It's the least I can do. I know

some of the information I sent may not seem to apply directly (like the

public service link), but it may give you a name and/or address of an

agency that can help.

Let me know if you want me to search for anything else. I will gladly do

it.

Happy Mother's Day to you, too!

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> you are unbelievable gina!!! i don't know how you find all these

links. i am

> very greatful. i hope you have a nice mother's day. kathy in il

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thanks, it just helps to talk to people about it. you never know what you

will find out. 5 doors close in your face and 3 more are about to open.

someday i will find the right door. i got my fidelity check in the mail, so

that has helped alot. went to walmart for a stock-up. i usually do the stores

during the week. but it was nice to just go out with my son and watch his

eyes when the total is double what he thought it would be. kathy in il

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