Re: Inflammation of Inflammatory Diseases

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Rodney posted:

> While on this topic, about eighteen months ago I> posted a related > list of herbs/spices that had been shown to be> beneficial for bone > strength. I do not recall the basis of the evidence> although IIRC it > was from feeding the substances to rats. This rat> study did list the > spices in order of potency, which was, I believe,> most potent first:> > Garlic powder> Rosemary> Italian parsley> Sage> Thyme> Curly parsley> Dill> Onion powder> Arugula> Fennel seed> ------------> Prune> Orange> Leek> > I make up a mixture of this in a jar. I omit the> last three > altogether as too inconvenient. I omit the onion> and garlic from the > main mixture and add them separately if desired> depending on the > circumstances. And use the mixture as a default> flavoring if I do > not have strong reasons for using something> different. For personal > taste, experimentally, I have been using equal doses> of everything > (except the onion, garlic and the last three listed)> but with double > doses of dill and fennel because of their> interesting and unusual > flavors. But everyone's taste will be different.> > I call this my 'BMD Mix'.

Rodney: Wouldn't it be wise to use garlic default if that is the most potent?

And - are garlic capsules just as good (to reduce the garlic smell)

Yet another query - what´s the milligram dose of your daily BMD mix?

//Thanks, Ulf PS Please post your Anti-Inflamm Mix when you've figured out the best mixture!

> > I plan to make up a new mixture, based on this> recently posted paper, > that I will call my 'Anti-Inflamm Mix'.> > With time I should be able to figure out which> mixture goes best in > which recipes.> > Rodney.>

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> Rodney: Wouldn't it be wise to use garlic default if that is the

> most potent?

I use the garlic when I do not anticipate breathing all over someone

I would not wish to insult in the near future!

> And - are garlic capsules just as good (to reduce the garlic smell)

I believe the jury is still out on that. I have seen both views

expressed - that powdered garlic is useless, and that it is just as

good. I do swallow a garlic clove with tea occasionally (perhaps

weekly) cut into pill-sized pieces and not chewed.

> Yet another query - what´s the milligram dose of your daily BMD

> mix?

I do not take this stuff on a daily basis. I add it to a recipe when

I have no strong preference for other specific flavorings. Usually I

use about one tablespoon of it. Ground up.

> PS Please post your Anti-Inflamm Mix when you've figured out the

> best mixture!

Will do! But it will take a fair amount of experimentation.

Rodney.

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--- In , " Rodney " <perspect1111@...>

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> > And - are garlic capsules just as good (to reduce the garlic smell)

>

> I believe the jury is still out on that. I have seen both views

> expressed - that powdered garlic is useless, and that it is just as

> good. I do swallow a garlic clove with tea occasionally (perhaps

> weekly) cut into pill-sized pieces and not chewed.

You gotta chew (or mince) those babies to release the allicin.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2007, 2:49:52 PM, Rodney wrote:

>> And - are garlic capsules just as good (to reduce the garlic smell)

R> I believe the jury is still out on that. I have seen both views

R> expressed - that powdered garlic is useless, and that it is just as

R> good. I do swallow a garlic clove with tea occasionally (perhaps

R> weekly) cut into pill-sized pieces and not chewed.

Is there a reason to not chew or smash?

It's been known for a long time that allicin (which gives garlic its

characteristic odor) is like the result of a binary chemical weapon.

The inert and separated alliin and alliinase need to come together to

form the active compound - e.g. as indicated, by chewing, etc.

(Alliinase might be destroyed by stomach acid.)

The offshoot was that if you don't systemically smell like garlic, you

aren't getting the allicin in your blood. Even with enteric-coated

tablets, you still eventually exhale it.

But more recently it's discovered in studies that ajoene has some of

the same (antimicrobial and other) effects as attributed to allicin.

Ajoene is mainly 3 allicins strung together. Ajoene and allicin

probably have the same sulphurous metabolites. But AFAIK ajoene does

not have as strong a smell; and it is not so easily destroyed, as in

cooking.

With the sulphur connection, I'd look at MSM for similar effects.

(I came across a description of how the different medicinal garlic

products, from macerates to the AGE commonly used in studies, are

prepared: http://gourmetgarlicgardens.com/pill.htm

It's by a guy who actually attends 'garlic symposiums' and does read

studies, too. I'm not mentioning it to support/refute any claims as to

garlic's healthfullness, only as illustration of various preparation

methods, if anyone is interested.)

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Ken wrote:

>

> With the sulphur connection, I'd look at MSM for similar effects

>

Many people swear by MSM, but I swear at it. If I take MSM for a few

days, I'll have a few sleepless nights before the stuff washes out of

my system. If I was looking for sulfur, I'd rather take methionine ;-)