Re: Beginning the CRON diet with eating disorder

[Guest guest]

Squaag: It is a requirement here to read Dr W’s book:”Beyond the 120 year Diet” and to read all our files and links before posting. Please do so if you haven’t already. These alone may give you immediate tips and help for your compulsive eating.

If you are completely out-of-control you may need medical or psychiatric attention and/or medication. It sounds in fact like you may be in a depression. However 10-20 lbs of overweight is not all that awful.

Although you say you are occupied with your kids and their homework, if you have the time to steal across the street for cheesecake, you are not occupied enough! Try, if you can to substitute more wholesome activities for eating when the feeling comes across.

A walk around the block instead of running to the bakery; reading a good and engrossing book, or some other engaging activity or hobby that you would enjoy or look forward all make life worth living and get your mind away from constant eating. When you are busily engaged in an activity or hobby, your mind is occupied, in “flow” and not focused on food.

Again, consider medical help if you can’t control yourself. From the description of your life, it sounds like you are young, with plenty of time to turn things around.

From: squaag <robertstorres@...>

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Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:52:36 -0000

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Subject: [ ] Beginning the CRON diet with eating disorder

I am very interested in beginning the CRON diet. Not so much for the life extension at this

point, (I don't have much time to contemplate the future right now) but because a

restricted lean diet is best for my body. My adult set pt is 135 lbs (I have put on 15 lbs of

muscle since my skinny 118 lb. youth through bodybuilding and kickboxing/running).

However, I've been between 145-157 for three years now, and that's 10-20 lbs of fat. Rich

foods and sugar, to which I am addicted, are wreaking havoc on my entire body and mind.

Inflammatory disorders, excess weight, severe IBS are all consequences.

My hurdle, before I can even begin the diet, is overcoming an almost lifelong addiction to

compulsive eating. Food as comfort, food as tranqilizer, food for connection with busy

busy husband. Fatty, rich, sugary, soothing food. All the logic and discipline I can muster

is helpless before this constant need for food. Even when my body is saying " No, I don't

want/need any food right now " some other force is urging me to eat, eat, and eat. Between

3:00pm and 8:00pm is primetime-the chaotic family time. I could try to be out of the

house during those hours, but the kids need homework done and their dinner. I could

have nothing but cauliflower and apples in the house-but then there I am, stealing across

the street to the cafe like a druggie, to get a piece of cheesecake! Restricting

myself, even though I feel physically better really fast, results in severe emotional feelings

of deprivation-and these feelings are getting more intense over time, as I try to control

them! I just can't seem to change it. But I want to, very very much. How do I do it?

The overeating and altered GI perceptions (no feeling of fullness at these times) make my

IBS and depression really severe. I also have thyroid problems from having the kids-which

makes me so tired. How do I get away from this insanity and onto the CRON

way of life?

[Guest guest]

Dear Squaag,

Suffice to say, I can really relate to your description of your

current state of mind and emotions. I have found that practicing CR

by limiting the number of hours each day that I consume food,

typically only 4 or 5 hours per day, has helped me immensely. This is

one style of " intermittent fasting " which you may have seen posts

about. For me, having an eating " window " releases me from the moment

to moment decisions about whether to indulge and the resulting

remorse. Also, I find that I am making much healthier choices when I

limit the times I eat.

I remember thinking when reading about the intermittent fasting

research on animals that my life would be so much easier if someone

just fed me once a day and I had no other access to food. Then it

occurred to me that I could just feed myself once a day. I

particularly like the Fast-5 approach, which you can google and read

about. There's a group page for those of us applying Fast-5

that is very supportive, also.

Good luck and let us know how your journey progresses.

--- In , " squaag " <robertstorres@...>

wrote:

>

> I am very interested in beginning the CRON diet. Not so much for

the life extension at this

> point, (I don't have much time to contemplate the future right now)

but because a

> restricted lean diet is best for my body. My adult set pt is 135

lbs (I have put on 15 lbs of

> muscle since my skinny 118 lb. youth through bodybuilding and

kickboxing/running).

> However, I've been between 145-157 for three years now, and that's

10-20 lbs of fat. Rich

> foods and sugar, to which I am addicted, are wreaking havoc on my

entire body and mind.

> Inflammatory disorders, excess weight, severe IBS are all

consequences.

>

> My hurdle, before I can even begin the diet, is overcoming an

almost lifelong addiction to

> compulsive eating. Food as comfort, food as tranqilizer, food for

connection with busy

> busy husband. Fatty, rich, sugary, soothing food. All the logic and

discipline I can muster

> is helpless before this constant need for food. Even when my body

is saying " No, I don't

> want/need any food right now " some other force is urging me to eat,

eat, and eat. Between

> 3:00pm and 8:00pm is primetime-the chaotic family time. I could try

to be out of the

> house during those hours, but the kids need homework done and their

dinner. I could

> have nothing but cauliflower and apples in the house-but then there

I am, stealing across

> the street to the cafe like a druggie, to get a piece of

cheesecake! Restricting

> myself, even though I feel physically better really fast, results

in severe emotional feelings

> of deprivation-and these feelings are getting more intense over

time, as I try to control

> them! I just can't seem to change it. But I want to, very very

much. How do I do it?

>

> The overeating and altered GI perceptions (no feeling of fullness

at these times) make my

> IBS and depression really severe. I also have thyroid problems from

having the kids-which

> makes me so tired. How do I get away from this insanity and onto

the CRON

> way of life?

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your tips and advice. I will

look up the fast-5 approach. I am on intermittent

'semi-fasts' during which I drink a blended soup

comprising winter vegetables, (kale, spinach, carrot

beet. sweet potato brussel sprouts, shiitake, kombu,

onion leek garlic) soft tofu, and young coconut. It's

delicious with cayenne, ginger, curry powder and

turmeric as seasoning. I cannot begin to calculate

calories, but it can't be much. Young coconuts don't

have nuch fat..

I am also going to attend some OA meetings, where I

have friends.

The soup is the only thing I eat during one of these

" winter " fasts. Back on solid food, your approach is

really sensible.

Thnx

-CRT

--- berko5517 <michelleberkovitz@...> wrote:

> Dear Squaag,

>

> Suffice to say, I can really relate to your

> description of your

> current state of mind and emotions. I have found

> that practicing CR

> by limiting the number of hours each day that I

> consume food,

> typically only 4 or 5 hours per day, has helped me

> immensely. This is

> one style of " intermittent fasting " which you may

> have seen posts

> about. For me, having an eating " window " releases me

> from the moment

> to moment decisions about whether to indulge and the

> resulting

> remorse. Also, I find that I am making much

> healthier choices when I

> limit the times I eat.

>

> I remember thinking when reading about the

> intermittent fasting

> research on animals that my life would be so much

> easier if someone

> just fed me once a day and I had no other access to

> food. Then it

> occurred to me that I could just feed myself once a

> day. I

> particularly like the Fast-5 approach, which you can

> google and read

> about. There's a group page for those of us

> applying Fast-5

> that is very supportive, also.

>

> Good luck and let us know how your journey

> progresses.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I am very interested in beginning the CRON diet.

> Not so much for

> the life extension at this

> > point, (I don't have much time to contemplate the

> future right now)

> but because a

> > restricted lean diet is best for my body. My adult

> set pt is 135

> lbs (I have put on 15 lbs of

> > muscle since my skinny 118 lb. youth through

> bodybuilding and

> kickboxing/running).

> > However, I've been between 145-157 for three years

> now, and that's

> 10-20 lbs of fat. Rich

> > foods and sugar, to which I am addicted, are

> wreaking havoc on my

> entire body and mind.

> > Inflammatory disorders, excess weight, severe IBS

> are all

> consequences.

> >

> > My hurdle, before I can even begin the diet, is

> overcoming an

> almost lifelong addiction to

> > compulsive eating. Food as comfort, food as

> tranqilizer, food for

> connection with busy

> > busy husband. Fatty, rich, sugary, soothing food.

> All the logic and

> discipline I can muster

> > is helpless before this constant need for food.

> Even when my body

> is saying " No, I don't

> > want/need any food right now " some other force is

> urging me to eat,

> eat, and eat. Between

> > 3:00pm and 8:00pm is primetime-the chaotic family

> time. I could try

> to be out of the

> > house during those hours, but the kids need

> homework done and their

> dinner. I could

> > have nothing but cauliflower and apples in the

> house-but then there

> I am, stealing across

> > the street to the cafe like a druggie, to get a

> piece of

> cheesecake! Restricting

> > myself, even though I feel physically better

> really fast, results

> in severe emotional feelings

> > of deprivation-and these feelings are getting more

> intense over

> time, as I try to control

> > them! I just can't seem to change it. But I want

> to, very very

> much. How do I do it?

> >

> > The overeating and altered GI perceptions (no

> feeling of fullness

> at these times) make my

> > IBS and depression really severe. I also have

> thyroid problems from

> having the kids-which

> > makes me so tired. How do I get away from this

> insanity and onto

> the CRON

> > way of life?

> >

>

>

>