Re: In Eight Years 50% of Adults in Mississippi will be Obese?

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I guess this is posted as a "feel good" message by comparison. Just to connect a few data points, besides topping 30% obesity rates, Mississippi also leads the nation in poverty. It is not difficult make an association between the two. While this is no excuse, food choices are strongly influenced by pocketbook. I believe there is also a subliminal psychological factor where satiety is used to address the feelings of financial insecurity.While purely anecdotal, I have seen more people in my corner of Mississippi, out in the early morning and late afternoon walking, so somebody somewhere is promoting a healthier lifestyle with at least a few listening. Surely not enough. I still don't run into any other joggers on my 5 mile runs. There is a huge problem with type II diabetes and other metabolic syndrome effects due to this obesity rate.  It's painful to watch this unfold as I know how simple (not easy) it could be to reverse. JROn Aug 28, 2007, at 4:25 AM, Rodney wrote:Hi folks:" .......... if current trends continue, more than 50 percent of adult Mississippians will be obese in 2015."http://news./s/ap/20070828/ap_on_he_me/obesity_mississippiRodney.

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Hi JR:

Not really a 'feel good' message. More like it provides advance

notice of where the rest of 'civilization' seems to be heading.

One of these years someone will provoke me into expounding on what I

believe to be the key underlying reason for this trend. But only

when I have more time available for the purpose!

And some people (not necessarily those who are overweight) will not

like my explanation!

Rodney.

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http://news./s/ap/20070828/ap_on_he_me/obesity_mississippi

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I recall being angry at fat people (for being fat) after I lost a bunch of weight myself  but I have mellowed after several years. I'll leave the psycho analysis to others with the time and inclination.My opinion about them doesn't matter, and to have any chance of being a positive influence or perhaps helping them, means not being judgmental but more compassionate. This shouldn't be  about me, it's about them. I'm working on one such project right now with an early type II sufferer some 10-15 years younger than me, Time will tell. I know how simple it all is, but it's easier to know what to do, than do it, and harder yet to get somebody else to do it.JROn Aug 30, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Rodney wrote:Hi JR:Not really a 'feel good' message. More like it provides advance notice of where the rest of 'civilization' seems to be heading.One of these years someone will provoke me into expounding on what I believe to be the key underlying reason for this trend. But only when I have more time available for the purpose!And some people (not necessarily those who are overweight) will not like my explanation!Rodney.>

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I believe there is a cultural bias in the South against exercise, or

perhaps against outsiders who are perceived to have imported exercise

into the region. My brother lived in Alabama for a few years

and was attacked several times while he was out jogging. The

attackers were always young local men who would drive very fast up

behind him-- sometimes even crossing the road-- to throw

objects at him while he was running. One time he was hit in the back

by a soda bottle filled with water. That one sent him to the hospital

and caused kidney damage.

We grew up in Oklahoma. I was spanked by passers-by while riding my

bicycle alone. This has never happened to me since I've been in

California. And my brother has never been attacked while exercising

since he moved to Colorado.

Diane

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> > " .......... if current trends continue, more than 50 percent of

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> > http://news./s/ap/20070828/ap_on_he_me/obesity_mississippi

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--- In , " Rodney " <perspect1111@...>

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> Hi JR:

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> Not really a 'feel good' message. More like it provides advance

> notice of where the rest of 'civilization' seems to be heading.

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> One of these years someone will provoke me into expounding on what

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> believe to be the key underlying reason for this trend. But only

> when I have more time available for the purpose!

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> And some people (not necessarily those who are overweight) will not

> like my explanation!

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> Rodney.

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Hi Rodney,

Well I certainly don't wish to raise your ire, however I am keenly

interested in some of your theories, such as this one you posted Feb

23, 2004 below. (easy to find - just search: Rodney, sleep,

evolution)

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Hi Dennis:

Given the very high prevalence of OFs not sleeping well I think most

people studying this kind of stuff would agree that therefore it must

have survival value.

Is there a better suggestion for what that survival value is? On the

face of it one would have thought 'not sleeping well' would be a

disadvantage, not an advantage. So the benefit much have been pretty

sizeable, to outweigh the drawbacks.

And it may very well have happened a very long time ago - predating

our ancestors who existed before we split with the great apes, or

even with the lemurs (which was a VERY long time ago.) It does not

need to be recent.

And for tribes that slept soundly, just forgetting to set a sentry,

or the sentry falling asleep, occasionally, would I think over many

many generations be more than enough to make the difference. You

don't need to kill off the all the sound sleepers. Because the poor

sleepers will become the majority, and some of the sound sleepers

will mate with poor sleepers, relatively quickly, I submit, the gene

pool would have become dominated by poor sleepers.

jmo.

Rodney.

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So if you have the time, most of us would appreciate your ideas on the

" key underlying reason for this trend "

Promise not to take it personally, since I don't consider myself to

be that much overweight anyway - but am just very curious. Some of

your theories are highly entertaining - and who knows maybe even

right. :-)

a=z

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I was talking to my little project yesterday (metabolic syndrome- type II diabetes) and he shared an interesting anecdote that might give a little insight into the MS mindset. I have been coaching him on foods to avoid to help reduce his insulin resistance and he has been making an effort. He works as a sound equipment provider for concerts and such so often on the road and at the mercy of fast food restaurants or worse. At one recent show the promoter put out a copious meal spread for the crew to enjoy but there was precious little on my friends "safe to eat list", so he just avoided the bounty. The promoter called up his boss and complained that one of his crew was a food snob and, snubbed his generosity. His boss advised the clueless the promoter about why he couldn't eat the food, but this was not an isolated incident. The peer behavior here is not salads for lunch and jogging. Even the guys girlfriend has begged him not to lose too much weight. He lost 15 # from just avoiding sugar and refined carbs. JROn Aug 30, 2007, at 1:16 PM, wrote:I recall being angry at fat people (for being fat) after I lost a bunch of weight myself  but I have mellowed after several years. I'll leave the psycho analysis to others with the time and inclination.My opinion about them doesn't matter, and to have any chance of being a positive influence or perhaps helping them, means not being judgmental but more compassionate. This shouldn't be  about me, it's about them. I'm working on one such project right now with an early type II sufferer some 10-15 years younger than me, Time will tell. I know how simple it all is, but it's easier to know what to do, than do it, and harder yet to get somebody else to do it.JROn Aug 30, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Rodney wrote:Hi JR:Not really a 'feel good' message. More like it provides advance notice of where the rest of 'civilization' seems to be heading.One of these years someone will provoke me into expounding on what I believe to be the key underlying reason for this trend. But only when I have more time available for the purpose!And some people (not necessarily those who are overweight) will not like my explanation!Rodney.>