Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Missy, I think you need to find an RT who understands SMA. Those settings are opposite of what they should be. Unless they understand the condition being treated most will set it at something like 12 over 8. Those are the standard settings used for the average Joe, but what they don't understand is that SMAers need help inhaling and exhaling. They will be apprehensive with Dr. Bach's settings, but they need to trust him because they work. Also, I was curious about the advantage you see with the humidifier. Does it help? What specific difference do you notice if you don't use it. Jordan generates secretions, and we've been concerned that a humidifier may make those worse. Jay > > My sons settings are not what most SMA kids are... I know you are not a kid, but I think the same rule from goes with all SMA patents. The epap should be the lowest the machine goes. and the Ipap should be something like 10 more than that. That is what Dr. Bach explained to me, but can't get the docs here to do that for Ian. His settings are 6/9. Bad ones. > > Now for the humidifier, Ian uses a heated one with the bipap. > I hope this helped some. > Missy > A FEW RULES * The list members come from many backgrounds, ages and beliefs So all members most be tolerant and respectful to all members. * Some adult language and topics (like sexual health, swearing..) may occur occasionally in emails. Over use of inappropriate language will not be allowed. If your under 16 ask your parents/gaurdian before you join the list. * No SPAMMING or sending numerous emails unrelated to the topics of spinal muscular atrophy, health, and the daily issues of the disabled. Post message: Subscribe: -subscribe Unsubscribe: -unsubscribe List manager: (Sexy Mature Artist) Email: Esma1999@... oogroups.com List manager: (Sexy Mature Artist) Email: Esma1999@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 with aschdon we use a humidifier and we were told never to use his bipap wiht out it. The reason is I think is because we live in a very dry climate and having that air blowing in and drying out your nasel passages can be very irritating and cause problems. Aschdon has used it a couple of times wiht out it when we were trying to get a new one and each time his throat hurt, his lips were majorly chapped and he woke up 3 times just for a drink of water. Kenya jondus@... wrote: Missy, I think you need to find an RT who understands SMA. Those settings are opposite of what they should be. Unless they understand the condition being treated most will set it at something like 12 over 8. Those are the standard settings used for the average Joe, but what they don't understand is that SMAers need help inhaling and exhaling. They will be apprehensive with Dr. Bach's settings, but they need to trust him because they work. Also, I was curious about the advantage you see with the humidifier. Does it help? What specific difference do you notice if you don't use it. Jordan generates secretions, and we've been concerned that a humidifier may make those worse. Jay > > My sons settings are not what most SMA kids are... I know you are not a kid, but I think the same rule from goes with all SMA patents. The epap should be the lowest the machine goes. and the Ipap should be something like 10 more than that. That is what Dr. Bach explained to me, but can't get the docs here to do that for Ian. His settings are 6/9. Bad ones. > > Now for the humidifier, Ian uses a heated one with the bipap. > I hope this helped some. > Missy > A FEW RULES * The list members come from many backgrounds, ages and beliefs So all members most be tolerant and respectful to all members. * Some adult language and topics (like sexual health, swearing..) may occur occasionally in emails. Over use of inappropriate language will not be allowed. If your under 16 ask your parents/gaurdian before you join the list. * No SPAMMING or sending numerous emails unrelated to the topics of spinal muscular atrophy, health, and the daily issues of the disabled. Post message: Subscribe: -subscribe Unsubscribe: -unsubscribe List manager: (Sexy Mature Artist) Email: Esma1999@... oogroups.com List manager: (Sexy Mature Artist) Email: Esma1999@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 here in the SF bay area a humidifier is too much for me. an HME is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 i use the humidified bi-pap. I have allergies and this helpes keep them calmed down. I am an adult and can really tell you the benefits of the humidified bi-pap. The bi-pap has a great tendency to dry out the nasal passages. Sometimes mine drys them to the point that I will have nose bleeds. The air can sometimes give the nasal passages a burning feeling especially if they are to dry. My bi-pap is a heated humidifier. The air coming out isn't so cool which also will dry the passages. I've tried the regular bi-pap and I'd wake up several times during the night needing a drink of water. I'd be so miserable to the point i'd go without it than suffer with it on. I feel more freshed in the mornings using the humidified 1. I feel the greatest benefit from the humidified is it does cut down on my allergies. Hope this information helps you RE: Bipap Questions Please with aschdon we use a humidifier and we were told never to use his bipap wiht out it. The reason is I think is because we live in a very dry climate and having that air blowing in and drying out your nasel passages can be very irritating and cause problems. Aschdon has used it a couple of times wiht out it when we were trying to get a new one and each time his throat hurt, his lips were majorly chapped and he woke up 3 times just for a drink of water. Kenya jondus@... wrote: Missy, I think you need to find an RT who understands SMA. Those settings are opposite of what they should be. Unless they understand the condition being treated most will set it at something like 12 over 8. Those are the standard settings used for the average Joe, but what they don't understand is that SMAers need help inhaling and exhaling. They will be apprehensive with Dr. Bach's settings, but they need to trust him because they work. Also, I was curious about the advantage you see with the humidifier. Does it help? What specific difference do you notice if you don't use it. Jordan generates secretions, and we've been concerned that a humidifier may make those worse. Jay > > My sons settings are not what most SMA kids are... I know you are not a kid, but I think the same rule from goes with all SMA patents. The epap should be the lowest the machine goes. and the Ipap should be something like 10 more than that. That is what Dr. Bach explained to me, but can't get the docs here to do that for Ian. His settings are 6/9. Bad ones. > > Now for the humidifier, Ian uses a heated one with the bipap. > I hope this helped some. > Missy > A FEW RULES * The list members come from many backgrounds, ages and beliefs So all members most be tolerant and respectful to all members. * Some adult language and topics (like sexual health, swearing..) may occur occasionally in emails. Over use of inappropriate language will not be allowed. If your under 16 ask your parents/gaurdian before you join the list. * No SPAMMING or sending numerous emails unrelated to the topics of spinal muscular atrophy, health, and the daily issues of the disabled. Post message: Subscribe: -subscribe Unsubscribe: -unsubscribe List manager: (Sexy Mature Artist) Email: Esma1999@... oogroups.com List manager: (Sexy Mature Artist) Email: Esma1999@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Sierra also uses a humidifier with her Bi-pap ...... helps her from getting to dry! Shaylene Sierra Journey Factor ( Type 2 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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