Re: Re: Increasing vegetables and fruits doesn't prevent breast cancer recurrence

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From: bill4cr <bill4cr@...>

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Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:27:34 -0000

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Subject: [ ] Re: Increasing vegetables and fruits doesn't prevent breast cancer recurrence

Who the heck is this guy? I had never heard of him before so I went to his biography:

Dr. McDougall is the author of several national bestsellers including: The McDougall Plan: 12 Days to Dynamic Health, McDougall's Medicine: A Challenging Second Opinion, The McDougall Program for Maximum Weight Loss, The New McDougall Cookbook, The McDougall Program for Women, and his latest ground breaking book, The McDougall Program for a Healthy Heart.

A graduate of Michigan State University's College of Human Medicine, he performed his internship at Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, and his medical residency at the University of Hawaii. He is certified as an internist by the Board of Internal Medicine and the National Board of Medical Examiners.

His claim to fame seems to be the so-called “bestsellers” above (again, never heard of any of ‘em). No peer-reviewed studies or any other credentials. In fact there’s no credentials in the field of nutrition.

I’m not saying he doesn’t have a point. But he is not of the caliber we want posted here.

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Hi Diane. Mcdougall has his critique of that study here:

http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/jul/cancer.htm

Interesting read.

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I know him both personally and professionally and do

work with him on occasion. Granted, he may not meet

the criteria of many of the " top tier " researchers but

i find his comments of value

Jeff

Here is a study he published on BP reduction

J Am Coll Nutr. 1995 Oct;14(5):491-6.Links

Rapid reduction of serum cholesterol and blood

pressure by a twelve-day, very low fat, strictly

vegetarian diet.McDougall J, Litzau K, Haver E,

Saunders V, Spiller GA.

St. Helena Hospital, Deer Park, California 94576, USA.

OBJECTIVE: This study was conducted to demonstrate the

effectiveness of a strictly vegetarian, very low-fat

diet on cardiac risk factor modification. METHODS:

Five hundred men and women, participants in an

intensive 12-day live-in program, were studied. The

program focused on dietary modification, moderate

exercise, and stress management at a hospital-based

health-center. RESULTS: During this short time period,

cardiac risk factors improved: there was an average

reduction of total serum cholesterol of 11% (p <

0.001), of blood pressure of 6% (p < 0.001) and a

weight loss of 2.5 kg for men and 1 kg for women.

Serum triglycerides did not increase except for two

subgroups: females age > or = 65 years with serum

cholesterol < 6.5 mmol/L and for females 50 to 64

years with baseline serum cholesterol between 5.2-6.5

mmol/L. High-density lipoprotein cholesterol measured

on 66 subjects decreased by 19%. CONCLUSION: A strict,

very low-fat vegetarian diet free from all animal

products combined with lifestyle changes that include

exercise and weight loss is an effective way to lower

serum cholesterol and blood pressure.

PMID: 8522729

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Ok. I take back my comment about him. My apologies to Bill. .

As I said, he does make a point.

From: Jeff Novick <chefjeff40@...>

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Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:08:08 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Increasing vegetables and fruits doesn't prevent breast cancer recurrence

I know him both personally and professionally and do

work with him on occasion. Granted, he may not meet

the criteria of many of the " top tier " researchers but

i find his comments of value

Jeff

Here is a study he published on BP reduction

J Am Coll Nutr. 1995 Oct;14(5):491-6.Links

Rapid reduction of serum cholesterol and blood

pressure by a twelve-day, very low fat, strictly

vegetarian diet.McDougall J, Litzau K, Haver E,

Saunders V, Spiller GA.

St. Helena Hospital, Deer Park, California 94576, USA.

OBJECTIVE: This study was conducted to demonstrate the

effectiveness of a strictly vegetarian, very low-fat

diet on cardiac risk factor modification. METHODS:

Five hundred men and women, participants in an

intensive 12-day live-in program, were studied. The

program focused on dietary modification, moderate

exercise, and stress management at a hospital-based

health-center. RESULTS: During this short time period,

cardiac risk factors improved: there was an average

reduction of total serum cholesterol of 11% (p <

0.001), of blood pressure of 6% (p < 0.001) and a

weight loss of 2.5 kg for men and 1 kg for women.

Serum triglycerides did not increase except for two

subgroups: females age > or = 65 years with serum

cholesterol < 6.5 mmol/L and for females 50 to 64

years with baseline serum cholesterol between 5.2-6.5

mmol/L. High-density lipoprotein cholesterol measured

on 66 subjects decreased by 19%. CONCLUSION: A strict,

very low-fat vegetarian diet free from all animal

products combined with lifestyle changes that include

exercise and weight loss is an effective way to lower

serum cholesterol and blood pressure.

PMID: 8522729