Re: Breast cancer and alcohol

[Guest guest]

Francesca Skelton wrote:

> A study came out yesterday implicating all forms of alcohol (even red

> wine) to an increased risk of breast cancer. Even one glass = 10%

> higher risk. Three glasses =30% higher risk. All heard on the national

> news – I don’t see anything in today’s paper. The theory is that

> alcohol causes a rise in estrogen which of course causes one form of

> breast cancer.

>

> Is anyone familiar with this latest study? Were other possible causes

> ruled out such as what these people ate and how health conscious they

> were? Does this apply to us?

>

> I would hate to give up my daily moderate wine drinking (always

> thinking it was a “health food”). I could switch to grapes but it’s

> not quite the same......:-))

>

> As always your opinions are welcomed.

I have always felt that any food has both positive and negative inputs

to health. Even Smoking apparently reduces some risk for some diseases,

but that does not mean I will be smoking anytime soon. The main negative

to alcohol would be the calories they contain that one would then need

to reduce the consumption of other foods. Grape Juice verses wine? Drink

the wine. Wine verses grapes or other fruit? Well that would be a

different question!

Positive Dennis

[Guest guest]

I am always somewhat cautious about attempts to lionize or demonize individual foods. Cancer is quite complex.On somewhat more practical note, I would advise against that moderate consumption of alcohol just before food shopping. By coincidence, last night I had a few beers before doing my grocery shopping for the week and my dietary discipline was not up to par. I find it easier and more productive to practice discipline at the store. If the food isn't in my house, it's impossible for me to eat it. JROn Sep 28, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Francesca Skelton wrote:A study came out yesterday implicating all forms of alcohol (even red wine) to an increased risk of breast cancer.  Even one glass = 10% higher risk.  Three glasses =30% higher risk.  All heard on the national news – I don’t see anything in today’s paper.   The theory is that alcohol causes a rise in estrogen which of course causes one form of breast cancer.Is anyone familiar with this latest study?  Were other possible causes ruled out such as what these people ate and how health conscious they were?  Does this apply to us?I would hate to give up my daily moderate wine drinking (always thinking it was a “health food”).  I could switch to grapes but it’s not quite the same......:-))As always your opinions are welcomed.

[Guest guest]

" I had a few beers before doing my grocery shopping "

Whether walking or driving, that is a good way to trip and fall, or

have a car accident. Injuries can negate all the attention that we

pay to CR.

Tony

>

> I am always somewhat cautious about attempts to lionize or demonize

> individual foods. Cancer is quite complex.

>

> On somewhat more practical note, I would advise against that moderate

> consumption of alcohol just before food shopping. By coincidence,

> last night I had a few beers before doing my grocery shopping for the

> week and my dietary discipline was not up to par. I find it easier

> and more productive to practice discipline at the store. If the food

> isn't in my house, it's impossible for me to eat it.

>

> JR

[Guest guest]

Leaving your home raises your risk of dying substantially. Order your

food in

> >

> > I am always somewhat cautious about attempts to lionize or demonize

> > individual foods. Cancer is quite complex.

> >

> > On somewhat more practical note, I would advise against that

moderate

> > consumption of alcohol just before food shopping. By coincidence,

> > last night I had a few beers before doing my grocery shopping for

the

> > week and my dietary discipline was not up to par. I find it easier

> > and more productive to practice discipline at the store. If the food

> > isn't in my house, it's impossible for me to eat it.

> >

> > JR

>

[Guest guest]

Well, on the wine versus grapes question, an important aspect to it

is what type of grape to consume? Where can one purchase the

naturally resveratrol-rich pinot noir grapes themselves? Perhaps

pinot noir wine is the only route for most consumers.

>The main negative

>to alcohol would be the calories they contain that one would then

>need

>to reduce the consumption of other foods. Grape Juice verses wine?

>Drink

>the wine. Wine verses grapes or other fruit? Well that would be a

>different question!

>Positive Dennis

> > A study came out yesterday implicating all forms of alcohol (even

red

> > wine) to an increased risk of breast cancer. Even one glass = 10%

> > higher risk. Three glasses =30% higher risk. All heard on the

national

> > news – I don't see anything in today's paper. The theory is that

> > alcohol causes a rise in estrogen which of course causes one form

of

> > breast cancer.

> >

> > Is anyone familiar with this latest study? Were other possible

causes

> > ruled out such as what these people ate and how health conscious

they

> > were? Does this apply to us?

> >

> > I would hate to give up my daily moderate wine drinking (always

> > thinking it was a " health food " ). I could switch to grapes but

it's

> > not quite the same......:-))

> >

> > As always your opinions are welcomed.

> I have always felt that any food has both positive and negative

inputs

> to health. Even Smoking apparently reduces some risk for some

diseases,

> but that does not mean I will be smoking anytime soon. The main

negative

> to alcohol would be the calories they contain that one would then

need

> to reduce the consumption of other foods. Grape Juice verses wine?

Drink

> the wine. Wine verses grapes or other fruit? Well that would be a

> different question!

>

> Positive Dennis

>

[Guest guest]

Hi folks:

The best wine grapes are, almost all, not great to eat; and

good 'eating' grapes never make for good wine; ............. nor

holsteins, no doubt, for great steaks; or hereford's for good milk.

And even if one was prepared to put up with less than the best

eating, and getting the seeds out from between one's teeth, pinot

noir grapes would be much more expensive than, for example,

seedless, for the rather small amounts of resveratrol they are

supposed to contain.

Rodney.

> > > A study came out yesterday implicating all forms of alcohol

(even

> red

> > > wine) to an increased risk of breast cancer. Even one glass =

10%

> > > higher risk. Three glasses =30% higher risk. All heard on the

> national

> > > news – I don't see anything in today's paper. The theory is

that

> > > alcohol causes a rise in estrogen which of course causes one

form

> of

> > > breast cancer.

> > >

> > > Is anyone familiar with this latest study? Were other possible

> causes

> > > ruled out such as what these people ate and how health

conscious

> they

> > > were? Does this apply to us?

> > >

> > > I would hate to give up my daily moderate wine drinking (always

> > > thinking it was a " health food " ). I could switch to grapes but

> it's

> > > not quite the same......:-))

> > >

> > > As always your opinions are welcomed.

> > I have always felt that any food has both positive and negative

> inputs

> > to health. Even Smoking apparently reduces some risk for some

> diseases,

> > but that does not mean I will be smoking anytime soon. The main

> negative

> > to alcohol would be the calories they contain that one would then

> need

> > to reduce the consumption of other foods. Grape Juice verses

wine?

> Drink

> > the wine. Wine verses grapes or other fruit? Well that would be a

> > different question!

> >

> > Positive Dennis

> >

>