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Well, I randomly chose 'selenium' to see what that

website would bring up. World's Healthiest Foods

for selenium was topped by liver. Last I can

recall, organ meats are generally not among the

healthiest foods, as they are extremely high in

cholesterol. I'm sure liver is a rich source of

selenium, but it's not so clear that it's the way

one should fill their need for selenium.

So, my general feeling is that the website may

not be a good " food advisor " after all.

-Dave

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> Hi

>

> What do you guys think of this website? It's

> non-profit, informative, and I found the nutrient

> profile (the food advisor) and the list of daily

> vitamin requirements with the foods that provide them

> was really handy. What do you think of its accuracy?

>

> food advisor:

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> http://whfoods.org/foodadvisor.php

>

> nutrition and foods:

>

> http://www.whfoods.com/nutrientstoc.php

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> -CRT

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My son gave me the book for my last birthday. I actually learned a few new things. For example, garlic is more potent if left sliced for 5 or more minutes before eating.

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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:49:53 -0800 (PST)

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Hi

What do you guys think of this website? It's

non-profit, informative, and I found the nutrient

profile (the food advisor) and the list of daily

vitamin requirements with the foods that provide them

was really handy. What do you think of its accuracy?

food advisor:

http://whfoods.org/foodadvisor.php

nutrition and foods:

http://www.whfoods.com/nutrientstoc.php

-CRT

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Hi Dave:

As the devil's advocate I would like to make the point that,

although the amount of beef in general and liver in particular that

I eat is small, it is simply loaded with a startlingly wide range of

micronutrients compared with all other beef products.

For example, one can get all the B-12 one needs from one ounce of

beef liver a week! (sic) But many other nutrients are also

available in surprisingly large quantities in beef liver.

This may not be totally surprising as one of the major functions of

the liver is the storage of nutrients for future needs. I cook

liver periodically for my cat, and cannot resist sneaking a small

piece of two and hope he doesn't catch me doing it ; ^ )))

The best advice probably is: don't eat a lot of it.

Rodney.

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > What do you guys think of this website? It's

> > non-profit, informative, and I found the nutrient

> > profile (the food advisor) and the list of daily

> > vitamin requirements with the foods that provide them

> > was really handy. What do you think of its accuracy?

> >

> > food advisor:

> >

> > http://whfoods.org/foodadvisor.php

> >

> > nutrition and foods:

> >

> > http://www.whfoods.com/nutrientstoc.php

> >

> > -CRT

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Hi :

Well since you ask. I did their quick questionnaire to find out what they thought my nutrient deficiencies are. I have several times logged everything I eat into CRON-o-Meter for a week, and each time it has come out with the same answers, so I am confident I do know what answers this questionnaire ought to come up with.

Without making special efforts or taking supplements I am normally deficient four nutrients. They are Ca, Zn, and vitamins D and E.

Their questionnaire correctly picked three of the four. It correctly identified calcium, zinc and D. However it said I had only a 1% chance of being deficient vitamin E!

But it also claimed that I was deficient a whole lot of other nutrients which a careful analysis of logged foods says I am not. So it appears to have been mistaken when it said the probability I am deficient B-12 is 90%! ; pantothenic acid 90%! ; B6 63%! ; B1 60%! ; B2 54%! ; B3 46% and iron 28%.

What is more I have had blood tests to check my B-12 and iron status and they confirm the CRON-o-Meter analysis. I am not even close to being deficient either of them.

Knowing about nutrient deficiencies is important. But, imo, there are better ways to determine nutrient deficiencies than by this survey. But the better ways take more effort. I am sure the site has a lot of other useful information. But as with all health information, including even the published results of scientific studies, one should be cautious about assuming it represents some form of absolute truth.

JMO

Rodney.

>> Hi > > What do you guys think of this website? It's> non-profit, informative, and I found the nutrient> profile (the food advisor) and the list of daily> vitamin requirements with the foods that provide them> was really handy. What do you think of its accuracy?> > food advisor:> > http://whfoods.org/foodadvisor.php> > nutrition and foods:> > http://www.whfoods.com/nutrientstoc.php> > -CRT>

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Hi Rodney.

If you're looking for a good, low-calorie food

source of zinc and Vitamin E, consider raw

wheat germ. It can be used instead of flour

in baking, pancakes, etc. or you can simply add

it into hot cereals or whatever else you choose.

It's typically less than $1 per pound, so it's

light on the wallet too. Great stuff.

-Dave

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > What do you guys think of this website? It's

> > non-profit, informative, and I found the nutrient

> > profile (the food advisor) and the list of daily

> > vitamin requirements with the foods that provide them

> > was really handy. What do you think of its accuracy?

> >

> > food advisor:

> >

> > http://whfoods.org/foodadvisor.php

> >

> > nutrition and foods:

> >

> > http://www.whfoods.com/nutrientstoc.php

> >

> > -CRT

> >

>

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Liver is truly a wondrous food. I get mine in one of two forms -

calves' or elk. My supplier is a local ranch store, so they grow

their own and I trust their product enough to eat it rare.

Because of mass-farming practices, I am really starting to shy away

from things like chicken and pork, and embracing lots of fatty fish

and the occasional hunk of red meat and/or liver. Seems like a good

balance and the nutrients are out of this world.

I even contemplated getting some liver into one of my megamuffin

formulations for the extra nutritional boost - but I might have a hard

time convincing people to eat them! ;-)

>

> Hi Dave:

>

> As the devil's advocate I would like to make the point that,

> although the amount of beef in general and liver in particular that

> I eat is small, it is simply loaded with a startlingly wide range of

> micronutrients compared with all other beef products.

>

> For example, one can get all the B-12 one needs from one ounce of

> beef liver a week! (sic) But many other nutrients are also

> available in surprisingly large quantities in beef liver.

>

> This may not be totally surprising as one of the major functions of

> the liver is the storage of nutrients for future needs. I cook

> liver periodically for my cat, and cannot resist sneaking a small

> piece of two and hope he doesn't catch me doing it ; ^ )))

>

> The best advice probably is: don't eat a lot of it.

>

> Rodney.

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It was my understanding that one of the strikes against liver was that it’s the organ that “cleanses” the body – thus eating it would mean ingesting toxins. Perhaps this is an old wive’s tale? Don’t remember where I heard it.

From: kaitainen <andrea@...>

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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:34:34 -0000

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Liver is truly a wondrous food. I get mine in one of two forms -

calves' or elk. My supplier is a local ranch store, so they grow

their own and I trust their product enough to eat it rare.

Because of mass-farming practices, I am really starting to shy away

from things like chicken and pork, and embracing lots of fatty fish

and the occasional hunk of red meat and/or liver. Seems like a good

balance and the nutrients are out of this world.

I even contemplated getting some liver into one of my megamuffin

formulations for the extra nutritional boost - but I might have a hard

time convincing people to eat them! ;-)

>

> Hi Dave:

>

> As the devil's advocate I would like to make the point that,

> although the amount of beef in general and liver in particular that

> I eat is small, it is simply loaded with a startlingly wide range of

> micronutrients compared with all other beef products.

>

> For example, one can get all the B-12 one needs from one ounce of

> beef liver a week! (sic) But many other nutrients are also

> available in surprisingly large quantities in beef liver.

>

> This may not be totally surprising as one of the major functions of

> the liver is the storage of nutrients for future needs. I cook

> liver periodically for my cat, and cannot resist sneaking a small

> piece of two and hope he doesn't catch me doing it ; ^ )))

>

> The best advice probably is: don't eat a lot of it.

>

> Rodney.

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Hi Francesca:

I would like to see the evidence for that. We know of course that

the kidneys' principal purpose is to rid the blood of undesirable

substances. And adipose is a place where bad stuff gets shunted off

to out of the way ........... as explained in BT120YD with the

much higher blood levels of various nasty chemicals when body fat is

reduced with CR.

But I haven't seen serious evidence implicating the liver. That

does not mean, of course, that it doesn't exist.

Rodney.

> >

> > Hi Dave:

> >

> > As the devil's advocate I would like to make the point that,

> > although the amount of beef in general and liver in particular

that

> > I eat is small, it is simply loaded with a startlingly wide

range of

> > micronutrients compared with all other beef products.

> >

> > For example, one can get all the B-12 one needs from one ounce of

> > beef liver a week! (sic) But many other nutrients are also

> > available in surprisingly large quantities in beef liver.

> >

> > This may not be totally surprising as one of the major functions

of

> > the liver is the storage of nutrients for future needs. I cook

> > liver periodically for my cat, and cannot resist sneaking a small

> > piece of two and hope he doesn't catch me doing it ; ^ )))

> >

> > The best advice probably is: don't eat a lot of it.

> >

> > Rodney.

>

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