Color me red.

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jwwright wrote:

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> The argument against grain fed, I do not buy, because cattle do a lot

> of range before feed out, and other meat animals eat primarily a

> prepared diet of soybean products. I see these animals being raised

> around me everyday. They eat bahia grass, coastal bermuda, and other

> pasture grasses.

While you see them every day, I in fact, raised them for 10 years. They

are grain fed very early, even before weaning. As they are raised after

weaning, backgrounded, they receive a large amount of grain along with

with pasturing. Often this grain is ground and heavily salted to limit

consumption. In the final 120 days they are fed mostly grain. They are

at this point on a dry lot with no pasture; although they do receive

some hay. While I am not saying that there is no pasture for some feed

lotted animals, the picture you describe is very rare. The high volume

of animals prevents it. The goal is the maximum weight with good fat

marbling as quickly as possible.

I agree that standard feed for all animals is as you describe. Their

meat too has been changed by this; but not to the same degree. If the

meat we consume is not effected by the grain that the future food is

eating why do they dye farm raised salmon?

We Americans are dependent on soy to a huge degree; I forget the exact %

mentioned from Omnivores Dilemma but If memory serves it was over 50%.

If we think that our modern diet has changed us for the worse; why are

we shocked if the modern diet we feed our animals has not done the same?

I have in the past had my own beef but am running low. I buy " normal "

chicken as I do not trust the label " free range " as the definition

really does not prevent the practices I do not like.

I do not post much as for me Cr and On is mostly theoretical. Color me red.

Positive Dennis

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Dennis De Jarnette wrote:

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> We Americans are dependent on soy to a huge degree; I forget the exact %

> mentioned from Omnivores Dilemma but If memory serves it was over 50%.

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I misspoke here; It is corn to which we are dependent.

Positive Dennis