Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hi all! I'm in the middle of a very interesting situation right now and I'm hoping to get some input. I'm in my last semester of college right now. The college had some presentations that had to be redesigned, so they asked the graphics professors who then in turn asked me. It is paid work (through a grant) and I'm apparently being listed as a sub-contractor. I know I need to call social security to inform them that I'm going to be working but I don't know what I should tell them since I don't know exactly how I would be making ( " somewhere between 7-12 dollars an hour " is what I was told, but I don't know how many hours it will take). And then there's the work incentives program- if I go on that now and then I can't find another job right away, would I then be off the program or not? Any input would be greatly appreciated. & Ivy- service dog extraordinaire 23 y/o, SMA I/II www.k94life.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 As I understand it, there is a nine month trial work program where you are entitled to receive SSI no matter what your income is. That said, you may also be entitled to SSI subsequently depending of course on your income. Lorey <milkynet@...> wrote: Hi all! I'm in the middle of a very interesting situation right now and I'm hoping to get some input. I'm in my last semester of college right now. The college had some presentations that had to be redesigned, so they asked the graphics professors who then in turn asked me. It is paid work (through a grant) and I'm apparently being listed as a sub-contractor. I know I need to call social security to inform them that I'm going to be working but I don't know what I should tell them since I don't know exactly how I would be making ( " somewhere between 7-12 dollars an hour " is what I was told, but I don't know how many hours it will take). And then there's the work incentives program- if I go on that now and then I can't find another job right away, would I then be off the program or not? Any input would be greatly appreciated. & Ivy- service dog extraordinaire 23 y/o, SMA I/II www.k94life.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 The 9-month period is connected to social security disability benefits, not SSI. At the end of every month in which you receive a paycheck, send a copy of all of your pay stubs and any impairment-related work expenses (IRWEs) to your local Social Security Administration office. Enclose a letter stating your SSN, contact information, and that you receive SSI (or SSDI - if you do). Keep records of everything you send in. Depending on your situation SSA will subtract $85, or $65 if you receive SSDI, from your GROSS pay (before taxes). They will also subtract any eligible IRWEs. After these deductions, 1/2 of the remaining total will be eliminated from your SSI check in the second month after you were paid. So, if you earn the money in May 2008, your SSI check for July 2008 will reflect the decreased amount. Kendra Hi all! > I'm in the middle of a very interesting situation right now and I'm hoping > to get some input. I'm in my last semester of college right now. The > college had some presentations that had to be redesigned, so they asked the > graphics professors who then in turn asked me. It is paid work (through a > grant) and I'm apparently being listed as a sub-contractor. I know I need > to call social security to inform them that I'm going to be working but I > don't know what I should tell them since I don't know exactly how I would > be making ( " somewhere between 7-12 dollars an hour " is what I was told, but > I don't know how many hours it will take). And then there's the work > incentives program- if I go on that now and then I can't find another job > right away, would I then be off the program or not? > Any input would be greatly appreciated. > > & Ivy- service dog extraordinaire > 23 y/o, SMA I/II > > www.k94life.org > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Can someone work and collect SSDI? How about beyond the 9 months? What is the income threshold beyond the 9 months? Kendra <kendranicole@...> wrote: The 9-month period is connected to social security disability benefits, not SSI. At the end of every month in which you receive a paycheck, send a copy of all of your pay stubs and any impairment-related work expenses (IRWEs) to your local Social Security Administration office. Enclose a letter stating your SSN, contact information, and that you receive SSI (or SSDI - if you do). Keep records of everything you send in. Depending on your situation SSA will subtract $85, or $65 if you receive SSDI, from your GROSS pay (before taxes). They will also subtract any eligible IRWEs. After these deductions, 1/2 of the remaining total will be eliminated from your SSI check in the second month after you were paid. So, if you earn the money in May 2008, your SSI check for July 2008 will reflect the decreased amount. Kendra Hi all! > I'm in the middle of a very interesting situation right now and I'm hoping > to get some input. I'm in my last semester of college right now. The > college had some presentations that had to be redesigned, so they asked the > graphics professors who then in turn asked me. It is paid work (through a > grant) and I'm apparently being listed as a sub-contractor. I know I need > to call social security to inform them that I'm going to be working but I > don't know what I should tell them since I don't know exactly how I would > be making ( " somewhere between 7-12 dollars an hour " is what I was told, but > I don't know how many hours it will take). And then there's the work > incentives program- if I go on that now and then I can't find another job > right away, would I then be off the program or not? > Any input would be greatly appreciated. > > & Ivy- service dog extraordinaire > 23 y/o, SMA I/II > > www.k94life.org > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Kendra is correct. The rules for working while on Social Security or SSDI are completely different than those for SSI. You can read about the SSI work rules (and those for SSDI) in Social Security's Red Book. http://www.socialsecurity.gov/redbook/ Here are pieces of information I always gave my clients because they're either unclear or not addressed in the Red Book. Please Note: There are different rules for blind and/or self- employed beneficiaries. There are different rules for SSI beneficiaries WITH unearned income such as SSDI, alimony, etc. REPORTING INCOME - Reporting your income in writing is required. Mail or bring in original pay stubs and original receipts for IRWE's. SSA will make copies and return the originals to you. No matter what anyone tells you, it is NOT possible to officially report your income over the phone. - You should report your income by the 10th day of the following month in which you earned it. It doesn't count WHEN you WORKED...It counts WHEN you were PAID. Ex: If you work all February and get paid on March 1st, it's March income to be reported by April 10th. Get paid on July 15th & 31st, report your income to SSA by August 10th, and your September SSI check will be reduced accordingly. THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND SSA defines disability as an inability to work. Working contradicts this definition, hence, you are defying a basic premise under which the SSA disability rules were written. It is likely that mistakes will be made when calculating your SSI eligibility. KEEP all your paperwork and make notes of verbal interactions with SSA. There is no statute of limitations on SSA looking back to question earnings and SSI payments. It's best to either have stable income or to set your earnings aside until the month your SSI goes down. Good luck! Alana Hi all! > > I'm in the middle of a very interesting situation right now and I'm > hoping > > to get some input. I'm in my last semester of college right now. The > > college had some presentations that had to be redesigned, so they > asked the > > graphics professors who then in turn asked me. It is paid work > (through a > > grant) and I'm apparently being listed as a sub-contractor. I know I > need > > to call social security to inform them that I'm going to be working > but I > > don't know what I should tell them since I don't know exactly how I > would > > be making ( " somewhere between 7-12 dollars an hour " is what I was > told, but > > I don't know how many hours it will take). And then there's the work > > incentives program- if I go on that now and then I can't find > another job > > right away, would I then be off the program or not? > > Any input would be greatly appreciated. > > > > & Ivy- service dog extraordinaire > > 23 y/o, SMA I/II > > > > www.k94life.org > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Santino, Yes. I worked when I was on SSI and now I work while on SSDI. Read the rules in the Red Book. Then ask questions about whatever is unclear. http://www.socialsecurity.gov/redbook/ I'm happy to answer questions. Alana Retired Benefits Planner > > Can someone work and collect SSDI? How about beyond the 9 months? What is the income threshold beyond the 9 months? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 I highly recommend that when you call to tell Social Security about your job that you tell them you are making a little more than you are going to otherwise you will have a perpetual overpayment. If they over estimate then they will owe you a little money rather than you owing them. From: Lorey <milkynet@...> Subject: Working/SSI Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 10:25 AM Hi all! I'm in the middle of a very interesting situation right now and I'm hoping to get some input. I'm in my last semester of college right now. The college had some presentations that had to be redesigned, so they asked the graphics professors who then in turn asked me. It is paid work (through a grant) and I'm apparently being listed as a sub-contractor. I know I need to call social security to inform them that I'm going to be working but I don't know what I should tell them since I don't know exactly how I would be making ( " somewhere between 7-12 dollars an hour " is what I was told, but I don't know how many hours it will take). And then there's the work incentives program- if I go on that now and then I can't find another job right away, would I then be off the program or not? Any input would be greatly appreciated. & Ivy- service dog extraordinaire 23 y/o, SMA I/II www.k94life.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 I agree, tell them you will be making a little more.? When I went to work I informed them in writing and on phone, they continued to pay me the same thing.? 3 years later I was sued by the government for overpayment.? I am not telling you this to scare you but make sure they dont drop the ball or it could come back to bite you.? Clance - KI4ZZO 703-297-0937 www.hamspeak.com Working/SSI Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 10:25 AM Hi all! I'm in the middle of a very interesting situation right now and I'm hoping to get some input. I'm in my last semester of college right now. The college had some presentations that had to be redesigned, so they asked the graphics professors who then in turn asked me. It is paid work (through a grant) and I'm apparently being listed as a sub-contractor. I know I need to call social security to inform them that I'm going to be working but I don't know what I should tell them since I don't know exactly how I would be making ( " somewhere between 7-12 dollars an hour " is what I was told, but I don't know how many hours it will take). And then there's the work incentives program- if I go on that now and then I can't find another job right away, would I then be off the program or not? Any input would be greatly appreciated. & Ivy- service dog extraordinaire 23 y/o, SMA I/II www.k94life.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 A similar thing happened to me; they continued to pay even though I was making too much money and had already passed the nine month trial work period. I kept calling and saying, " I'm not supposed to be receiving payments, " and they assured me I was not in overpayment. Then...boom! I was in overpayment. They didn't sue me, but I do have to repay the money. Luckily they are allowing me to repay in installments...but I will be repaying for years to come. Dina --- Clance-KI4ZZO <clance1980@...> wrote: > I agree, tell them you will be making a little > more.? When I went to work I informed them in > writing and on phone, they continued to pay me the > same thing.? 3 years later I was sued by the > government for overpayment.? I am not telling you > this to scare you but make sure they dont drop the > ball or it could come back to bite you.? > > > Clance - KI4ZZO > 703-297-0937 > www.hamspeak.com > > > Working/SSI > > Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 10:25 AM > > Hi all! > I'm in the middle of a very interesting situation > right now and I'm > hoping > to get some input. I'm in my last semester of > college right now. The > college had some presentations that had to be > redesigned, so they asked the > graphics professors who then in turn asked me. It is > paid work (through a > grant) and I'm apparently being listed as a > sub-contractor. I know I need > to call social security to inform them that I'm > going to be working but I > don't know what I should tell them since I don't > know exactly how I > would > be making ( " somewhere between 7-12 dollars an hour " > is what I was > told, but > I don't know how many hours it will take). And then > there's the work > incentives program- if I go on that now and then I > can't find another job > right away, would I then be off the program or not? > Any input would be greatly appreciated. > > & Ivy- service dog extraordinaire > 23 y/o, SMA I/II > > www.k94life.org > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ------------------------------------ > > A FEW RULES > > * The list members come from many backgrounds, ages > and beliefs So all > members most be tolerant and respectful to all > members. > > * Some adult language and topics (like sexual > health, swearing..) may > occur occasionally in emails. Over use of > inappropriate language will > not be allowed. If your under 16 ask your > parents/gaurdian before you > join the list. > > * No SPAMMING or sending numerous emails unrelated > to the topics of > spinal muscular atrophy, health, and the daily > issues of the disabled. > > Post message: > Subscribe: -subscribe > Unsubscribe: -unsubscribe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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