Re: Re: 'Dr. Mercola' refers to those practicing CRas foolish

[Guest guest]

At 01:19 PM 9/10/2007, you wrote:

Hi folks:

Somewhere I read that Dr. Mercola is an 'osteopath'.

Can someone who knows please tell us if osteopaths are 'real' doctors

(i.e. takes seven+ years of hard work and real examinations to

qualify) or, rather, graduates of one of those correspondence

course-

type snake oil institutions, like chiropractors, homeopaths, tea leaf

readers, and others in the 'alternative medicine' business? ; ^

)))

Serious question about what the term 'osteopath' means

though.

--Osteopathy is an alternative medical training route that usually

delivers its graduates to the same residencies that " normal "

MDs undergo before they can become licensed malpractitioners, so often

the end product is similar to that of the traditional MD route, although

I'm sure MDs would take issue with such a claim.

--As the Source of All Wisdom puts it:

Osteopathy is an approach to

healthcare that

emphasizes the role of the

musculoskeletal system in

health and

disease. In most

countries osteopathy is a form of

complementary medicine, emphasizing a

holistic approach and

the skilled use of a range of manual and physical

treatment

interventions

(

Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine, or OMM in the United States) in

the prevention and treatment of disease. In practice, this most commonly

relates to musculoskeletal problems such as back and neck pain. Many

osteopaths see their role as facilitating the body's own recuperative

powers by treating musculoskeletal or

somatic dysfunction.

According to the

American Osteopathic Association, the difference between an osteopath

and an osteopathic physicians is often

confused.

[1] In the United States,

Doctors of

Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.s) are fully

licensed medical

physicians and

surgeons. Just like

M.D.s,

D.O.s practice the full scope of

medicine, but with an

emphasis on the role of the musculoskeletal system. Outside the United

States, the practice rights of U.S.-trained Doctors of Osteopathic

medicine varies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathy

For what it's worth, the best internal medicine guy I've had was

coincidentally an osteopath (he's since traded in his GP revolver for an

allergy-specialist minigun).

Maco

>

> >

> > Not to disagree,

> > the problem I have with the doctors, in general, and not to

> > criticize them either, is they assume we CANNOT do something

> > halfway difficult like changing our diet. There is a drone in

the

> > journal articles that they must select a less than ideal diet

to

> > fit a comfort zone of the American public to get any change at

all.

> > So, eg, what I first thought was a good diet, the Mediterranean

> > diet, by the time it got to publication, it was watered down to

> > that false acceptance level.

> >

> > It is plain obvious that the people who call themselves CRers

are

> > able to restrict themselves to the point of fasting, enduring

> > osteo, whatever to find the answer. As I recall, it wasn't

until

> > the CR approach was promoted that we began to get

contradictions,

> > or " other " suggestions, other hypotheses.

> >

> > To me the CR answer is obvious - we incur less insult by less

> > oxidation due to less food intake.

> >

> >

> > Regards.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.quackwatch.com/11Ind/mercola.html

Quackwatch assessment of Mercola

From: Maco <mstewart@...>

Reply-< >

Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:26:29 -0600

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Subject: Re: [ ] Re: 'Dr. Mercola' refers to those practicing CRas " foolish "

At 01:19 PM 9/10/2007, you wrote:

Hi folks:

Somewhere I read that Dr. Mercola is an 'osteopath'.

Can someone who knows please tell us if osteopaths are 'real' doctors

(i.e. takes seven+ years of hard work and real examinations to

qualify) or, rather, graduates of one of those correspondence course-

type snake oil institutions, like chiropractors, homeopaths, tea leaf

readers, and others in the 'alternative medicine' business? ; ^ )))

Serious question about what the term 'osteopath' means though.

--Osteopathy is an alternative medical training route that usually delivers its graduates to the same residencies that " normal " MDs undergo before they can become licensed malpractitioners, so often the end product is similar to that of the traditional MD route, although I'm sure MDs would take issue with such a claim.

--As the Source of All Wisdom puts it:

Osteopathy is an approach to healthcare <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare> that emphasizes the role of the musculoskeletal system <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musculoskeletal_system> in health <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health> and disease <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disease> . In most countries osteopathy is a form of complementary medicine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complementary_medicine> , emphasizing a holistic approach <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holism> and the skilled use of a range of manual and physical treatment <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment> interventions ( Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathic_Manipulative_Medicine> , or OMM in the United States) in the prevention and treatment of disease. In practice, this most commonly relates to musculoskeletal problems such as back and neck pain. Many osteopaths see their role as facilitating the body's own recuperative powers by treating musculoskeletal or somatic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic> dysfunction. According to the American Osteopathic Association <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Osteopathic_Association> , the difference between an osteopath and an osteopathic physicians is often confused. [1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathy#_note-0> In the United States, Doctors of Osteopathic Medicine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Osteopathic> (D.O.s) are fully licensed <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licensure> medical physicians <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physician> and surgeons <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surgery> . Just like M.D.s <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine> , D.O.s practice the full scope of medicine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine> , but with an emphasis on the role of the musculoskeletal system. Outside the United States, the practice rights of U.S.-trained Doctors of Osteopathic medicine varies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteopathy

For what it's worth, the best internal medicine guy I've had was coincidentally an osteopath (he's since traded in his GP revolver for an allergy-specialist minigun).

Maco