Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 > There may be answers to all these questions. If so, > then I will need > to hear what they are, before I can take this > research seriously. Some more random thoughts on the study... The author Ludwig is a long term fan of the Zone diet. What I find curious is that the high GI mice ended up with more energy stored as fat as the mice fed the low GI diet. Now how is that possible if they consumed the same number of calories? Only if the high GI animals were less active and/or had a slower metabolic rate. No one has ever shown that high GI foods promote sedentariness in humans or animals. Well then that leaves high GI diets slowing BMR. Again this seems unlikely and I know of no credible data to show higher GI foods slow the metabolic rate. Assuming that higher GI foods do not slow the metabolic rate or somehow depress physical activity (both are likely true as far as I know) then how did Ludwig's high GI rodents end up with twice as much body fat as the low GI fed mice? The most obvious answer is that they absorbed more calories. If correct then we have the obvious explanation for the fatty liver in the high GI fed mice. They consumed more calories. Fatty liver and excess body fat stores and insulin resistance are all largely the result of excessive calorie intake. Now why would the low GI diet fed mice end up with half the body fat and yet more lean body mass? That is a tough one. As far as I know LBM goes up with increased calorie intake and not down. Does Ludwig offer any explanation for this disparate finding? When one finds something that does not fit with other data one should at least note it and point out that the finding is anomalous even if one has no explanation for it. Have not seen the whole study so perhaps Ludwig did in fact explain away some of what I see as some data in his study that seem inconsistent with what one would expect. High-GI carbs after exercise lead to a more rapid replenishment of muscle glycogen stores. Now if a greater proportion of the CHO calories end up as muscle glycogen on a high-GI diet than a low-GI diet then it is hard to imagine how this could lead to increased total body fat stores and liver fat - unless of course, the high-GI fed mice consumed more calories. I wonder if the low-GI starch contained resistant starch? Resistant starch is physiologically similar to fiber and would explain most of Ludwig's anomalous findings. However, how fewer calories could lead to increased LBM (as Lugwig's data seems to indicate) is very weird is it not? Still wondering Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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