Whey protein

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> How can a child who needs the gfcf diet possibly use whey protein?

My

> HFS guy tried to sell me Immunocal because I was trying to increase

> glutathione. The Immunocal rep admitted that it may have a little

> casein in it, so I stayed away from it. Now I see it mentioned in

the

> amino acids post and wonder if gfcf kids can take this. Is anyone

> using it?

If you are GFCF you can't use whey protein - it is the part of milk

left when cheese is made and has lots of casein left in it.

>

> BTW, I began chelation yesterday with Chemet 100mg every 4 hrs and

so

> far, no problems. Thanks to everyone for getting us to this point.

>

>

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Kirkman Labs had ImmunePro Rx undenatured whey tested for casein and it was

found to be over 20% casein. However, it should be noted that according to

Bill Shaw there are two types of casein -- one that ASD kids can convert

into exorphins and one that doesn't. It depends upon the genetics of the

cows. We have used the ImmunePro Rx on our son and he does seem to have

more energy (generally he's on the more sedate side) with no spaciness or

evidence of other allergic response. The difficulty in giving it is that it

needs to be done on an empty stomach with no food given until at least 1/2

hour later.

If you're going to try an undenatured whey, give a micro-amount first to see

if there's any reaction and then increase the dose very slowly. Also, I

believe Andy has expressed concern that people with already high cysteine

levels could be put at risk by consuming whey.

FWIW

Jeff

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Gretchen, sounds like it was too rich for your stomach right now........Hope you are feeling better now, my prayers are with you ~

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Gretchen, Thrilled to hear you were able to do a light workout! Was there any wheat or gluten in the whey shake? Peanuts are bad for allergies - often have mold. . . . Check the peanut butter ingredients for sugar, dextrose, etc. . . . Hugs, Rogene

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thanks guys

i felt so good in the middle of the night last night

like myself!

this morning i feel all foggy again

ugh. i hate this.

>

> Gretchen,

>

> Thrilled to hear you were able to do a light workout!

>

> Was there any wheat or gluten in the whey shake?

>

> Peanuts are bad for allergies - often have mold. . . . Check the

peanut butter ingredients for sugar, dextrose, etc. . . .

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

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thanks guys

i felt so good in the middle of the night last night

like myself!

this morning i feel all foggy again

ugh. i hate this.

>

> Gretchen,

>

> Thrilled to hear you were able to do a light workout!

>

> Was there any wheat or gluten in the whey shake?

>

> Peanuts are bad for allergies - often have mold. . . . Check the

peanut butter ingredients for sugar, dextrose, etc. . . .

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

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Gretchen - That's totally how this illness is, too. It will get

better in time, and probably you'll see improvements when the season

changes to spring or summer. I think it's a good sign that you are

at least having spells where you feel like your old self - because

before you just continued to get worse. Winter hasn't been that

great for me - symptoms acting up here and there, but I'm definitely

better than I was last winter. I had joint pain for about a week in

February, and now I've got dizziness and that pain in the side of my

head that I used to have. I'm looking to buy a two person far

infrared sauna. My husband is being a bit of a fly in the ointment

about buying one - but I will get one. If I spent all that money on

getting sick, then I can spend a fraction of that to help me get

better. He thinks that regular steam saunas are better for your

health, but I will print out some data for him on infrared saunas -

just like I printed out the information on this site when he didn't

believe implants were making me sick.

Sis

> >

> > Gretchen,

> >

> > Thrilled to hear you were able to do a light workout!

> >

> > Was there any wheat or gluten in the whey shake?

> >

> > Peanuts are bad for allergies - often have mold. . . . Check

the

> peanut butter ingredients for sugar, dextrose, etc. . . .

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

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Gretchen, When I was so sick, I forgot what it was like to feel normal . .. then I had a problem and was given a steroid medication . .. All of a sudden, I felt like myself . . . I was so excited. It meant that my body had the capacity for feeling normal again! . . . That was the incentive I needed to keep working on getting better . .. because I wanted to feel that way all the time . . And I do! . . . I'm sure you will too . . . But you've still got some work to do. Hugs, Rogene

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Are these foods that were suggested to you by Dr. Kolb? Some people have

reactions to different food combinations. It could be that the combination

was too much for your system after being so ill.

Kenda

> i used to use it all the time for fitness and the gym

>

> i did a lite workout today so had me a shake after of whey protein and

> water and a lil banana and peanut butter

>

> gas and bloating and #2 all night

> cant sleep

>

> took some immodium and im posting but wanted to see if u guys

> think this is what it was.

>

> yuk. sorry.

>

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I just thought of something, Gretchen. There were certain peanut butters

that were recalled very recently because they made people sick. You might

want to do a Google search to find out if your peanut butter was one of

them.

Kenda

> Gretchen, sounds like it was too rich for your stomach right now........Hope

> you are feeling better now, my prayers are with you ~

> Love Dede

>

>

>

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no it wasnt.hey did you have this symptom?very anxious like have to move around and cant sit still?this morning i was tired and depressed and foggy, then i was fine, now im anxious and kinda dizzy!

On 3/17/07, Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

I just thought of something, Gretchen. There were certain peanut butters

that were recalled very recently because they made people sick. You might

want to do a Google search to find out if your peanut butter was one of

them.

Kenda

> Gretchen, sounds like it was too rich for your stomach right now........Hope

> you are feeling better now, my prayers are with you ~

> Love Dede

>

>

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-- gretchen

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Gretchen: I agree with the previous comments about the whey protein shake (may be too rich for your stomach, peanut butter not being so great). I wanted to add that bananas might be a culprit too. You probably need to be on an anti-Candida diet right now, at least at first, which means restricting things like dairy and avoiding high carb foods. You want to avoid foods like bananas that are high on the glycemic index (turn to sugar quickly in your body). I was eating a banana while driving and suddenly starting feeling so sleepy I didn't think I was going to be able to continue driving without losing control of the car. I read somewhere that people with systemic candida infections had problems with driving as they felt "drunk"--it had something to do with the yeast. When I was really ill (before being explanted) there were a couple of times where I almost went off the road while driving. Also, I do whey protein myself, but I'm torn about it. One reason being that Jordan Rubin, author of The Maker's Diet doesn't recommend it as it can be full of toxins, hormones, etc.). Also, when Dr. Kolb was showing me a diagram about biotoxins that Dr. Shoemaker had created, it said in large writing "No whey." When I asked her about, worried of course about the shakes I'd been drinking, she said not to worry. To be on the safe safe, especially while you're so sick, if you're going to do the whey shakes, try Bio Pure from Metagenics or Garden of Life's Goatein powder. Kate". .Gretchen. ." <gretchenc@...> wrote: no it wasnt.hey did you have this symptom?very anxious like have to move around and cant sit still?this morning i was tired and depressed and foggy, then i was fine, now im anxious and kinda dizzy! On 3/17/07, Kenda Skaggs <skaggstitanbbs> wrote: I just thought of something, Gretchen. There were certain peanut buttersthat were recalled very recently because they made people sick. You mightwant to do a Google search to find out if your peanut butter was one

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Here's my second question. One reason, I think, that I have been able to retain muscle mass even while consuming only 2K calories per day is that I get a lot of protein, most of it from whey protein powder (the kind with no hydrogenated fats, almost no sugar, and balanced amino acid profile). Most of the rest of my protein comes from fish (usually salmon, 4-5 oz.). Would list members consider whey protein a high-quality, nutrient dense food? I have to admit that every time I open up the jar of the stuff, it strikes me as a kind of ultimate synthetic food. But it's extremely convenient. I have it for breakfast with soy milk, a banana, five grams creatine, and a quarter teaspoon of glucosamine. Thanks.

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I've used whey protein on and off, but recently I decided it may not

be a good idea due to the small amount of oxidized cholesterol it may

contain. WAPF says that powdered milk is to be avoided because it has

oxidized cholesterol, and it's plausible that what little cholesterol

is in whey protein powders is mostly (if not fully) oxidized due to

the processing.

Any comments on this notion? I'm thinking of switching to pure BCAA

powder instead.

Tom

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--- In , " Alan " <alanmjones@...>

wrote:

>

> Another interesting choice is trueprotein.com, where you can

> customize the ingredients for a reasonable price.

I've been buying cold-filtered whey protein isolate from them for

several years. I get just the plain whey protein and add my own

flavorings, coconut milk, water, and sweetener.

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On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Pamela <calblonde1@...> wrote:

> Does anybody use whey protein? I am looking for a high quality, reasonably

> priced whey protein powder.

I use a lot of whey protein everyday. My use of it is eating it. When

I eat it, at the same time I also eat the other components of milk it

comes combined with out of cow/goat/sheep udders. It comes in a nice

liquid form, which often gets thick after fermenting into clabber or

kefir. I get the milk from farms that raise the animals on grass and

don't process the milk in any way besides filtering and chilling. So

it's very high quality. Usually I pay about $4 per gallon for cow

milk, so it's reasonably priced as well, even arguably one of the

least expensive foods I could eat.

Mike