Re: Re: How to Live a Long Healthy Life

[Guest guest]

So . . . the critical, universally shared attribute among those super-old

people?

All were people of faith. Not most. Not 95%.

Somehow I don't know if that bodes so well for many of us CRONies, who

seem rather to be trying to outsmart aging and death.

Must be irrelevant, that faith stuff . . . .

Maco

> In this short video on Centenarians and Super centenarians it mentions

> that one thing they all had in common is that they were really thin

> all their life.

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> Part1

> http://mfile.akamai.com/12913/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2005/1208/5491786.200k.asx

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> Part2

> http://mfile.akamai.com/12913/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2005/1209/5502916.200k.asx

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> Matt

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>> Very interesting. And notably, none of the centenarians was

> particularly

>> thin. Rather, several had extra padding.

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>> Makes one wonder whether a few extra pounds in extreme old age might be

>> beneficial.

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>> From: bill4cr <bill4cr@...>

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>> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:19:25 -0000

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>> Subject: [ ] How to Live a Long Healthy Life

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>> I found this link on Jeff Novick's website (thanks Jeff)

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>> If posted previously accept my apology. i don't recall seeing this here.

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>> FIVE parts..

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>> How to Live a Long Healthy Life (Part 1)

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2915949129258776700

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>> How to Live a Long Healthy Life (Part 2)

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2915949129258776700

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>> How to Live a Long Healthy Life (Part 3)

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2915949129258776700

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>> How to Live a Long Healthy Life (Part 4)

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2915949129258776700

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>> How to Live a Long Healthy Life (Part 5)

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2915949129258776700

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[Guest guest]

Faith is something you can’t just inject into your life. If you don’t believe, you can’t “make believe” you do.

And plenty of religious people have died young.

From: Maco <mstewart@...>

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:59:43 -0600 (MDT)

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Subject: Re: [ ] Re: How to Live a Long Healthy Life

So . . . the critical, universally shared attribute among those super-old

people?

All were people of faith. Not most. Not 95%.

Somehow I don't know if that bodes so well for many of us CRONies, who

seem rather to be trying to outsmart aging and death.

Must be irrelevant, that faith stuff . . . .

Maco

> In this short video on Centenarians and Super centenarians it mentions

> that one thing they all had in common is that they were really thin

> all their life.

>

> Part1

> http://mfile.akamai.com/12913/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2005/1208/5491786.200k.asx

>

> Part2

> http://mfile.akamai.com/12913/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2005/1209/5502916.200k.asx

>

>

> Matt

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>> Very interesting. And notably, none of the centenarians was

> particularly

>> thin. Rather, several had extra padding.

>>

>> Makes one wonder whether a few extra pounds in extreme old age might be

>> beneficial.

>>

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>> From: bill4cr <bill4cr@...>

>> Reply-< <mailto: %40> >

>> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:19:25 -0000

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>> Subject: [ ] How to Live a Long Healthy Life

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>> I found this link on Jeff Novick's website (thanks Jeff)

>>

>> If posted previously accept my apology. i don't recall seeing this here.

>>

>> FIVE parts..

>>

>> How to Live a Long Healthy Life (Part 1)

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2915949129258776700

>>

>> How to Live a Long Healthy Life (Part 2)

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2915949129258776700

>>

>> How to Live a Long Healthy Life (Part 3)

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2915949129258776700

>>

>> How to Live a Long Healthy Life (Part 4)

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2915949129258776700

>>

>> How to Live a Long Healthy Life (Part 5)

>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2915949129258776700

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[Guest guest]

I wonder how many developed their faith in their later years, which, as they get

closer to the " end " is probably not an uncommon happening. I would bet it is

fairly common as a way of trying to but things in perspective & find some

meaning as the realization that time is really limited and closing in.

Just one purely anecdotal story, the medical director of the center I was at was

one of the most cankerous, feisty guys around and had no time for matters

religious & /or spiritual in nature.

Then he turned about 85 and things changed. He started reading the bible &

other religious/ spiritual books & has made several trips to the holy land

Patients have even commented on this change and

His discussions of these things in their appointments. He even started giving

out one of his favorite books to his patients.

Today he would say how important this is to his life. But it wasn't always that

way.

Regards

jeff

Re: [ ] Re: How to Live a Long Healthy Life

So . . . the critical, universally shared attribute among those super-old

people?

All were people of faith. Not most. Not 95%.

Somehow I don't know if that bodes so well for many of us CRONies, who

seem rather to be trying to outsmart aging and death.

[Guest guest]

Researchers aren’t sure if it’s the actual “faith” that prolongs life or the “social” aspect of belonging to a group, socializing when attending services in a house of worship. Much like the fact that married people, and those with strong relationships, and family ties live longer.

From: Jeff Novick <jnovickrd@...>

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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:22:23 -0400

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Subject: RE: [ ] Re: How to Live a Long Healthy Life

I wonder how many developed their faith in their later years, which, as they get closer to the " end " is probably not an uncommon happening. I would bet it is fairly common as a way of trying to but things in perspective & find some meaning as the realization that time is really limited and closing in.

Just one purely anecdotal story, the medical director of the center I was at was one of the most cankerous, feisty guys around and had no time for matters religious & /or spiritual in nature.

Then he turned about 85 and things changed. He started reading the bible & other religious/ spiritual books & has made several trips to the holy land Patients have even commented on this change and

His discussions of these things in their appointments. He even started giving out one of his favorite books to his patients.

Today he would say how important this is to his life. But it wasn't always that way.

Regards

jeff

[Guest guest]

I think the main feature is they are in an area where they check on one

another, provide support in ways we youngers don't understand.

They talk/think about things in their generation's terms.

Recall the people 100+ yo today grew up in a changing society - from 85%

farming to 85% industrialization.

They survived WW I/II, bank failures, depressions, lack of medical care,

soup lines, bumming trains, sharing homes, homes without heat, walking a

mile to the bus stop, poor schooling, poor communication, i.e., MANY

differences.

We have more centi's now than 50 yrs ago, so something in the environment

changed, perhaps medical care, sanitary sewers, perhaps more and stable

food supply, perhaps more awareness of a good diet.

But I don't see religion itself inpires people to live longer, rather the

opposite.

Regards

[ ] Re: How to Live a Long Healthy Life

Hi folks:

I tried to locate the list of characteristics common to the centenarians

identified in the New England Centenarian Study. I searched their website

but couldn't find it.

I do remember though that religion (faith, whatever) was not on the list, as

if it had been I would certainly have remembered it.

As I like also to point out, exercise is not on that list either ;; ^ )))

However, having close friends who drop in on a regular basis certainly

**was** on the list, and that does seem to me to be a characteristic of a

couple of 'somewhat weird' religious groups I happen to have been familiar

with. So that 'connection' makes sense. They certainly have a remarkable

sense of community which, I would think, must be beneficial with regard to

aging.

Rodney.