Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 US scientists back autism link to MMRBy Beezy Marsh and Sally Beck [article in Telegraph, UK](Filed: 28/05/2006)http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/05/28/wmmr28.xml & sSheet=/news/2006/05/28/ixnews.htmlThe measles virus has been found in the guts of children witha form of autism, renewing fears over the safety of the MMRjab.American researchers have revealed that 85 per cent ofsamples taken from autistic children with bowel disorderscontain the virus. The strain is the same as the one used inthe measles, mumps and rubella triple vaccine.The findings will spark fresh concern about MMR, becausethey back theories of a causal link between the jab, autismand painful gut disorders suffered by a number of autisticchildren.The study replicates findings made by the gastroenterologistDr Wakefield in 1998 and Prof O'Leary, apathologist, in 2002.Parents say their children were developing normally untilthey had the MMR jab, given when a child is between 12- and18-months-old. The children now suffer from regressiveautism.One theory is that the virus passes through the gut, causingdamage, and into the bloodstream, from where it is able toattack the brain.More than 2,000 families claim that their children havesuffered damage but the Department of Health reiterated lastnight that MMR is safe, a stance supported by the BritishMedical Association and all the Royal Colleges. Last yearGovernment scientists failed to reproduce research resultsby Dr Wakefield.Research to be presented this week in Montreal, Canada,provides fresh evidence that the measles virus is presentin the guts of autistic children. Dr , of theWake Forest University School of Medicine, North Carolina,studied children with regressive autism and bowel disease."Of the handful of results we have in so far, all arevaccine strain," he said. "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 This study will be presented at the IMFAR Conference in Montreal on June 1-3, 2006 as a "Poster Presentation". More information can be found at http://conferences.ucdavis.edu/imfar/IMFAR_2006_abstract_book.pdf . Dr. 's and Dr. Krigsman's (et al) study is mentioned on pages 100 and 101 of the abstract book. Unfortunately, on page 99, Fombonne has an abstract for a study where he and his co-authors did not find measles RNA in their subjects. As these are poster presentations, I don't know whether there will be much opportunity for attendees to discuss the disparate results. Aasa Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01@...> wrote: US scientists back autism link to MMRBy Beezy Marsh and Sally Beck [article in Telegraph, UK](Filed: 28/05/2006)http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/05/28/wmmr28.xml & sSheet=/news/2006/05/28/ixnews.htmlThe measles virus has been found in the guts of children witha form of autism, renewing fears over the safety of the MMRjab.American researchers have revealed that 85 per cent ofsamples taken from autistic children with bowel disorderscontain the virus. The strain is the same as the one used inthe measles, mumps and rubella triple vaccine.The findings will spark fresh concern about MMR, becausethey back theories of a causal link between the jab, autismand painful gut disorders suffered by a number of autisticchildren.The study replicates findings made by the gastroenterologistDr Wakefield in 1998 and Prof O'Leary, apathologist, in 2002.Parents say their children were developing normally untilthey had the MMR jab, given when a child is between 12- and18-months-old. The children now suffer from regressiveautism.One theory is that the virus passes through the gut, causingdamage, and into the bloodstream, from where it is able toattack the brain.More than 2,000 families claim that their children havesuffered damage but the Department of Health reiterated lastnight that MMR is safe, a stance supported by the BritishMedical Association and all the Royal Colleges. Last yearGovernment scientists failed to reproduce research resultsby Dr Wakefield.Research to be presented this week in Montreal, Canada,provides fresh evidence that the measles virus is presentin the guts of autistic children. Dr , of theWake Forest University School of Medicine, North Carolina,studied children with regressive autism and bowel disease."Of the handful of results we have in so far, all arevaccine strain," he said. "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Did Wakefield win his lawsuiT against the LONON TIMES? Scientists reiterate MMR vaccine link to autism. US scientists back autism link to MMRBy Beezy Marsh and Sally Beck [article in Telegraph, UK](Filed: 28/05/2006)http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/05/28/wmmr28.xml & sSheet=/news/2006/05/28/ixnews.htmlThe measles virus has been found in the guts of children witha form of autism, renewing fears over the safety of the MMRjab.American researchers have revealed that 85 per cent ofsamples taken from autistic children with bowel disorderscontain the virus. The strain is the same as the one used inthe measles, mumps and rubella triple vaccine.The findings will spark fresh concern about MMR, becausethey back theories of a causal link between the jab, autismand painful gut disorders suffered by a number of autisticchildren.The study replicates findings made by the gastroenterologistDr Wakefield in 1998 and Prof O'Leary, apathologist, in 2002.Parents say their children were developing normally untilthey had the MMR jab, given when a child is between 12- and18-months-old. The children now suffer from regressiveautism.One theory is that the virus passes through the gut, causingdamage, and into the bloodstream, from where it is able toattack the brain.More than 2,000 families claim that their children havesuffered damage but the Department of Health reiterated lastnight that MMR is safe, a stance supported by the BritishMedical Association and all the Royal Colleges. Last yearGovernment scientists failed to reproduce research resultsby Dr Wakefield.Research to be presented this week in Montreal, Canada,provides fresh evidence that the measles virus is presentin the guts of autistic children. Dr , of theWake Forest University School of Medicine, North Carolina,studied children with regressive autism and bowel disease."Of the handful of results we have in so far, all arevaccine strain," he said. "Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit." - Aurobindo. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 How was total body merc ury assessed?ony levelin red blood celds correlates with body level; plasma,urine and hair do not. H .H. Fudenberg Re: Scientists reiterate MMR vaccine link to autism. ,Since several valid studies have REPEATEDLY shown that:a. there is NO correlation per se between the level of mercury in hair and the level of mercury exposure in children and adults, andb. those with autism tend to have levels of mercury in their hair that are lower than controls exposed to the same level of Thimerosal from vaccines,I am amazed that this type of, at best, less than relevant studies continue to becarried out.Moreover, the researchers apparent failure to note that chelation challenge and post-chelation-challenge urine analyses (and NOT hair analysis) were generally used in the 1990s and early 2000s to ascertain that a child who has a neurodevelopmental diagnosis is probably heavy-metal poisonedBEFIRE chelation is initiated seems to indicate that these researchers have NOT kept up with even the 1990s reports on commonly used diagnostic/therapeutic intervention practices in this area.Furthermore, they fail to note that the current best-practical-practice for the identification of poisoning by mercury and/or other heavy metals REQUIRES the appropriate differential diagnostic analysis of:a. blood samples for the level of cysteine and glutathione and their derivatives and precursors as well as for the level of testosterone and related steroids and, through appropriate DNA evaluation, known genetic defects (e.g., Fragile X and Rhett's syndrome),b. urine for porphyrin profiles, c. the patient's entire medical history including the lots of the vaccines used, dates of administration, patient's health at the time of vaccination, other medications, etc., andd. an in-depth examination of the patient.As far as I can ascertain, the lack of correlation between the level of mercuryin hair and mercury exposure was DEFINITIVELY extablished in 2003[Amy S. Holmes, Mark F. Blaxill and Boyd E. Haley, "Reduced Levels of Mercury in First Baby Haircuts of Autistic Children," International Journal of Toxicology (2003); 22: 277-285].Based on the researcher's concluding remark,>Despite the small sample size, >results raise questions about ... >claims of mercury toxicity in>children with autism,"this research's purpose seems to be to "muddy the water" about the reality that, in > 75% of the cases, where the patient has a verified diagnosis of DSM "autism," an in-depth differential diagnosis (using the steps outlined above) will establish that mercury poisoning is a major factor in the "autism" diagnosis given these patients and, with an appropriate, holistic therapy regimen that includes the suppression of excess testosterone and oral chelation with DMSA or some equivalent therapy regimen, over time, all such patients improve, most lose their "autism" diagnosis within a yearor two of therapy, and some recover tothe point that they can attend school with minimal support.Hopefully, this note has helped you understand that this research adds littleto the understanding of the reality that injecting pregnant women and babies withThimerosal-preserved vaccines mercury poisons all who are given such vaccines to some extent.In some cases, the degree of mercury poisoningis severe enough that, among other illnesses, the patient is diagnosed with DSM "autism."Furthermore, in the US in the 1990s and early 2000s, the "regressive" form of "autism" typically had a Thimerosal-preserved vaccine trigger or, to a lesser extent, a live-virus vaccine trigger (enabled by the documented poisoning of the immune system [levels of Thimerosal below 0.02 ppm have been proven topoison the immune system] by Thimerosal in Thimerosal-containing vaccines administered from birth onwards). [Note: Though post-vaccine-related neurodevelopmental regression generally occurs in children under the age5, documented cases of "regression" exist for those in their late teens who have "regressed" mentally after being givenb theThimerosal-preserved Menomune vaccine.]In addition, evidence of mercury poisoninghas been seen in some other of the commonneurodevelopmental disorders although, inthe case of those with a confirmed diagnosisof Asperger's, the evidence (porphyrin) seems to show that the heavy-metal poisoning was "more transient" and the patient's detox mechanisms seemed to be able to "clear" or "sequester" the mercury injected (or thegiving of Thimerosal-containing vaccines was terminated) BEFORE the mercury poisoningprogressed to the point that speech was lost.Finally, we must NOT forget that NO level of Thimerosal has been proven to be safe to be in a vaccine or, for that matter, any other drug -- for infrequently administered vaccines for pregnant women, babies and developing children, the current best evidence points to the safety threshold forThimerosal at a level below 0.01 ppm (mercury below 0.005 ppm) and, for drug products, like monoclonal antibodies, that are administered biweekly, the safety threshold for Thimerosalin the entire population is probably below0.001 ppm (mercury below 0.0005 ppm [< 0.5 parts per billion]). Respectfully,Dr. Kinghttp://www.dr-king.comPS: Since Thimerosal is a proven teratogen (shown to cause mutations and cancers) at levels of 1 ppm, it is difficult to see any justification for having this mercury compound in any drug product at any level because, as has been clearly established: a. 0.5-% 2-phenoxyethanol is as initially effective a vaccine- formulation preservative as 0.01-% Thimerosal, b. UNLIKE Thimerosal, which gradually decomposes and, over time, loses its preservative effectiveness in the vaccine formulation, 2-phenoxyethanol maintains its preservative effectiveness because, UNLIKE Thimerosal, it is stable in the saline-based vaccine formulations. c. UNLIKE Thimerosal, the metabolism products from 2-phenoxyethanol (initially, ethanol and phenol) are NEITHER bioaccumulative poisons NOR retained in the body for decades like Thimerosal's "ionic mercuric" final metabolites.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ At 00:22 5/29/06 -0400, Kerbob wrote:>>>This is interesting.>>PS3.36>>A STUDY OF MERCURY LEVELS IN YOUNG CHILDREN>WITH AUTISM USING LABORATORY ANALYSIS OF >HAIR SAMPLES>>P.Gail , ph Hersh, Lonnie L Sears,>>University of Louisville School of Medicine>>Autism is a developmental disability >characterized by severe, pervasive deficits >in social interaction, communication and >range of interests and activities The >neurobiologic basis of autism is well >accepted, although the specific etiology >is unknown. It has been theorized that >autism may result from a combination of >predisposing genes and environmental factors >While autism has a known association with >some environmental factors such as rubella >and valproic acid exposure in utero, other >proposed environmental mechanisms such as >mercury toxicity or other heavy metal >exposure have limited research support. >>Despite this fact, interventions including >oral chelation therapy are being used to >treat autism after hair, blood or urine >samples are analyzed by specialty laboratories. >Controls and standards for these laboratories >are often unclear with minimal data supporting >differences in lab values for children with >autism and typically developing children.>>Hair samples were obtained from 14 children >with autism and 16 controls between the ages >of 2 and 6 years. These samples were then sent>to Doctors Data Lab where mercury levels were >reported. The autism and control groups did >not differ significantly in age or gender >distribution. Analysis of hair sample data by >t-tests for equality of means and equal >variance yielded no significant difference >in mercury levels for the two groups. Despite >the small sample size, results raise questions >about the usefulness of evaluation for mercury >exposure using hair samples, and about claims >of mercury toxicity in children with autism.>>Partial support for this study was provided by >a University of Louisville Pediatric Research >Foundation grant to PGW>>I wonder how many of you reading this right now >could take a look at the DDI hair elements test >print-outs and correctly predict which of the >thirty kids are autistic (mercury-poisoned) and >which ones aren't? :->> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 1) " results raise questions about the usefulness of evaluation for mercury exposure using hair samples, 2) and about claims of mercury toxicity in children with autism. (uh, what?) " 2), talk about a giant leap. > US scientists back autism link to MMR > By Beezy Marsh and Sally Beck [article in Telegraph, UK] > (Filed: 28/05/2006) > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml? xml=/news/2006/05/28/wmmr28.xml & sSheet=/news/2006/05/28/ixnews.html > > The measles virus has been found in the guts of children with > a form of autism, renewing fears over the safety of the MMR > jab. > > American researchers have revealed that 85 per cent of > samples taken from autistic children with bowel disorders > contain the virus. The strain is the same as the one used in > the measles, mumps and rubella triple vaccine. > > The findings will spark fresh concern about MMR, because > they back theories of a causal link between the jab, autism > and painful gut disorders suffered by a number of autistic > children. > > The study replicates findings made by the gastroenterologist > Dr Wakefield in 1998 and Prof O'Leary, a > pathologist, in 2002. > > Parents say their children were developing normally until > they had the MMR jab, given when a child is between 12- and > 18-months-old. The children now suffer from regressive > autism. > > One theory is that the virus passes through the gut, causing > damage, and into the bloodstream, from where it is able to > attack the brain. > > More than 2,000 families claim that their children have > suffered damage but the Department of Health reiterated last > night that MMR is safe, a stance supported by the British > Medical Association and all the Royal Colleges. Last year > Government scientists failed to reproduce research results > by Dr Wakefield. > > Research to be presented this week in Montreal, Canada, > provides fresh evidence that the measles virus is present > in the guts of autistic children. Dr , of the > Wake Forest University School of Medicine, North Carolina, > studied children with regressive autism and bowel disease. > " Of the handful of results we have in so far, all are > vaccine strain, " he said. > > > > > > > " Our ideal is not the spirituality that withdraws from life but the conquest of life by the power of the spirit. " - Aurobindo. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice.. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Not to mention the contradiction: hair tests are not useful for determining mercury poisoning - but this study of hair tests discredits autism/merucry claims. This reads like a 7th grade science fair posterboard. > > 1) " results raise questions about the usefulness of evaluation for > mercury exposure using hair samples, 2) and about claims of mercury > toxicity in children with autism. (uh, what?) " > > 2), talk about a giant leap. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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