Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Even if carbohydrates were not essential, a diet without carbs would have have more protein and fat. As most fat and protein rich ingredients in diets tend to have high AGEs content, a low or no carb diet would seem to have more AGEs.As I want to plan some diets that have a very Low AGE content, I played a little bit with the info contained in the table of AGEs in commonly consumed foods. Here are some rough examples: AGE content Low carb diet... egg white --> 800g 458kU Olive oil --> 39g 5086kU banana --> 700g 60.9kU carbs=165g, calories=1351, AGES per day = 5604kU -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------With low fat diet... Very low diet rice 630g 56kU beans 90g 270kU avocado 120g 1893kU egg white 400g 177kU banana 120g 10.4kU carbs=244g, calories=1438, AGES per day =2406kU (A common diet can include 16000+-5000kU of AGEs)I know that there are many nutrients lacking in these diets. I am not planning to use the diets as they are. This exercise generated some questions for me...What is the minimum recommended fat intake?Egg whites are a protein source with low AGEs content, but have a lot of methionine. Does anyone know which is more important? Any clues?And the question that gave origin to this mail: What is more important, to have a low AGE diet or a low carb diet? I want to congratulate everyone for this beautiful group. I suscribed to this list a month ago but never posted until now. (Mexico) __________________________________________________Correo Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! RegÃstrate ya - http://correo..mx/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Measuring AGE in specific food products is one thing but how does this relate to significant AGE related consequences invivo? This study shows that for those of us restricting calories AGE may be less a concern. The bigger issue may be are we getting enough protein for optimal longevity? Mice on CR lived longer on a higher protein diet. Accumulation of Advanced Glycation Endproducts in Aging Male Fischer 344 Rats during Long-Term Feeding of Various Dietary Carbohydrates1 B. Lingelbach, Alyson E. , B. Rucker and B. Mc2 " These results suggest that long-term feeding of specific dietary carbohydrates does not alter serum glucose concentrations or the rate of collagen glycation. Rather, age-related accumulation of AGE is more closely related to caloric intake. " http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/130/5/1247 > > Even if carbohydrates were not essential, a diet without carbs would have have more protein and fat. > As most fat and protein rich ingredients in diets tend to have high AGEs content, a low or no carb diet would seem to have more AGEs. > > As I want to plan some diets that have a very Low AGE content, I played a little bit with the info contained in the table about AGEs in commonly consumed foods. Here are some rough examples: >                                         \                           AGE content > > > > > > > > > > > > > > egg white --> 800g                          458kU > Olive oil --> 39g                                         5086kU > banana  -->   700g                                        60\ ..9kU > > > carbs=165g, calories=1351, AGES per day = 5604kU > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ --- > With less fat... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very low diet > > rice                  630g                                         \  56kU > beans                 90g                                        27\ 0kU > avocado          120g                                       1893\ kU > egg white         400g                                        17\ 7kU > banana             120g                                       10.4\ kU > > > > carbs=244g, calories=1438, AGES per day =2406kU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (A common diet can include 16000+-5000kU of AGEs) > I know that there are a lot of nutrients lacking in these diets. I am not planning to use them as they are. This exercise generated on me some questions. > Which is the minimum recommended fat intake? > Egg whites are a protein source with low AGEs content, but have a lot of methionine. Does anyone knows which is more important? Any clues? > And the question that gave origin to this mail. What is more important, to have a low AGE diet or a low carb diet? > >  I want to congratulate everyone for this beautiful group. I suscribed to this list a month ago but never posted until now. > > (Mexico) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Correo > Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! > RegÃstrate ya - http://correo..mx/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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