Re: International Cancer Rates

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Quite an interesting chart. Kuwait is among the lowest of both sexes although many other countries show differing rates between the sexes (France for example very high for men only – smoking???). But look at Thailand, lowest by far for both sexes!! They do spice up their food, but could that account for such a striking difference between Thailand and the next lowest country? And what would account for the rock bottom number in Kuwait for both sexes?

From: Rodney <perspect1111@...>

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Some amazing data for international cancer rates here:

http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html <http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html>

The data are from twenty years ago. If anyone can find more up to date data please post.

Mexico has an amazingly low overall cancer rate - all sites. One wonders to what extent the spicy food may be a factor.

Rodney.

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There is a claim - I'm sorry I don't have a direct reference (there is, last time I looked, a link on the Thai Import Foods website) by a team of Thai and Japanese researchers for incidental evidence that Tom Yum soup - more or less the national soup of Thailand - linking soup consumption with low cancer rates. Under study. The standard recipe calls for lemon grass, galangal, hot peppers, lots of garlic, fresh cilantro, keffir lime leaves, and anchovy sauce or shrimp paste. It is true that Thai food is typically very spicy (peppers especially). So is Korean food, of course (peppers and garlic).  And Korea comes out near the bottom of the list, as well. Best,  On Jul 14, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Francesca Skelton wrote: Quite an interesting chart.  Kuwait is among the lowest of both sexes although many other countries show differing rates between the sexes (France for example very high for men only – smoking???).  But look at Thailand, lowest by far for both sexes!!  They do spice up their food, but could that account for such a striking difference between Thailand and the next lowest country?  And what would account for the rock bottom number in Kuwait for both sexes? From: Rodney <perspect1111@...> Reply-< > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:33:12 -0000 < > Subject: [ ] International Cancer Rates     Some amazing data for international cancer rates here: http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html <http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html> The data are from twenty years ago.  If anyone can find more up to date data please post. Mexico has an amazingly low overall cancer rate - all sites.  One wonders to what extent the spicy food may be a factor. Rodney.     

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I don’t think they eat Tom Yum soup in Kuwait though :-)

From: Cook <lcoqc@...>

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There is a claim - I'm sorry I don't have a direct reference (there is, last time I looked, a link on the Thai Import Foods website) by a team of Thai and Japanese researchers for incidental evidence that Tom Yum soup - more or less the national soup of Thailand - linking soup consumption with low cancer rates. Under study. The standard recipe calls for lemon grass, galangal, hot peppers, lots of garlic, fresh cilantro, keffir lime leaves, and anchovy sauce or shrimp paste. It is true that Thai food is typically very spicy (peppers especially). So is Korean food, of course (peppers and garlic).  And Korea comes out near the bottom of the list, as well. 

Best, 

 

On Jul 14, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Francesca Skelton wrote:

Quite an interesting chart.  Kuwait is among the lowest of both sexes although many other countries show differing rates between the sexes (France for example very high for men only – smoking???).  But look at Thailand, lowest by far for both sexes!!  They do spice up their food, but could that account for such a striking difference between Thailand and the next lowest country?  And what would account for the rock bottom number in Kuwait for both sexes?

From: Rodney <perspect1111@...>

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Some amazing data for international cancer rates here:

http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html <http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html>

The data are from twenty years ago.  If anyone can find more up to date data please post.

Mexico has an amazingly low overall cancer rate - all sites.  One wonders to what extent the spicy food may be a factor.

Rodney.

    

[Guest guest]

Perhaps it's all the salt in their ferments, i.e., kimchi.

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[ ] International Cancer Rates

Some amazing data for international cancer rates here:

http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html

<http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html>

The data are from twenty years ago. If anyone can find more up to date

data please post.

Mexico has an amazingly low overall cancer rate - all sites. One wonders to

what extent the spicy food may be a factor.

Rodney.

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There are several world life expectancy charts on the web and neither Thailand not Kuwait (in spite of low cancer rates) is near the top of the longevity list. In the chart referenced below Kuwait is 29th and Thailand is 71st.

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/

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Perhaps it's all the salt in their ferments, i.e., kimchi.

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[ ] International Cancer Rates

Some amazing data for international cancer rates here:

http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html

<http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html>

The data are from twenty years ago. If anyone can find more up to date

data please post.

Mexico has an amazingly low overall cancer rate - all sites. One wonders to

what extent the spicy food may be a factor.

Rodney.

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So, the hots may help them by way of lower cancer rates,

but, as Rodney has pointed out before, they botch it up

by eating all that coconut (heart disease).

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There are several world life expectancy charts on the web and neither

Thailand not Kuwait (in spite of low cancer rates) is near the top of the

longevity list. In the chart referenced below Kuwait is 29th and Thailand

is 71st.

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/

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Or they don't live long enough to get cancer....JROn Jul 14, 2008, at 6:19 PM, wrote:So, the hots may help them by way of lower cancer rates,but, as Rodney has pointed out before, they botch it upby eating all that coconut (heart disease).- Re: [ ] International Cancer RatesThere are several world life expectancy charts on the web and neither Thailand not Kuwait (in spite of low cancer rates) is near the top of the longevity list. In the chart referenced below Kuwait is 29th and Thailand is 71st.http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/

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At this site:

http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa042000b.htm

Andorra, a small European country tops the life expectancy list at 83 years, higher than Japan. I copied their cuisine below from http://recipes.wikia.com/wiki/Andorra. Not much different than other countries in the region:

Due to the fact that Andorra is situated between France and Spain, Andorran cuisine is mainly Catalan and it also combines with French and Italian cuisine but in a small proportion. Pasta, meat, fish and vegetables are the main ingredients for every meal. In the northern region of Andorra the French and Italian cuisine is prevailing and its main characteristics are the daily use of pasta, cheese, bread and fish; while in the southern region Catalan cuisine influences were adapted. Local dishes include the following dishes: trinxat made of Bacon, cabbage and potatoes; cunillo which is rabbit stewed in tomato sauce; xai which is actually roasted Lamb; coques are flavored flat cakes and truites de carreroles which is actually an omelet made with mushrooms. Andorran local dishes also include sausages, cheese, and a large variety of Pork and Ham dishes and a vast variety of vegetables.

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There are several world life expectancy charts on the web and neither Thailand not Kuwait (in spite of low cancer rates) is near the top of the longevity list. In the chart referenced below Kuwait is 29th and Thailand is 71st.

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/

From: <truepatriot@...>

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Perhaps it's all the salt in their ferments, i.e., kimchi.

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[ ] International Cancer Rates

Some amazing data for international cancer rates here:

http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html

<http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html>

The data are from twenty years ago. If anyone can find more up to date

data please post.

Mexico has an amazingly low overall cancer rate - all sites. One wonders to

what extent the spicy food may be a factor.

Rodney.

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>But look at Thailand,

>lowest by far for both sexes!! They do spice up their food, but could that

>account for such a striking difference between Thailand and the next lowest

>country?

In Walford's " The 120 Year Diet " there are charts comparing cancer rates and

daily fat consumption for various countries. Thailand is at the rock bottom

of both, so the small amount of fat in the diet may be responsible for the

low cancer rates.

Bruce

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http://www.who.int/cancer/en/

In 2005, 7.6 million people died of cancer out of 58 million deaths worldwide.

More than 70% of all cancer deaths occur in low and middle income countries, where resources available for prevention, diagnosis and treatment of cancer are limited or nonexistent.

Are the number of cancer cases increasing or decreasing in the world?

Cancer is a leading cause of death worldwide and the total number of cases globally is increasing.

The number of global cancer deaths is projected to increase 45% from 2007 to 2030 (from 7.9 million to 11.5 million deaths), influenced in part by an increasing and aging global population. The estimated rise takes into account expected slight declines in death rates for some cancers in high resource countries. New cases of cancer in the same period are estimated to jump from 11.3 million in 2007 to 15.5 million in 2030.

In most developed countries, cancer is the second largest cause of death after cardiovascular disease, and epidemiological evidence points to this trend emerging in the less developed world. This is particularly true in countries in "transition" or middle-income countries, such as in South America and Asia. Already more than half of all cancer cases occur in developing countries.

Lung cancer kills more people than any other cancer - a trend that is expected to continue until 2030, unless efforts for global tobacco control are greatly intensified. Some cancers are more common in developed countries: prostate, breast and colon. Liver, stomach and cervical cancer are more common in developing countries.

A number of common risk factors have been linked to the development of cancer: an unhealthy lifestyle (including tobacco and alcohol use, inadequate diet, physical inactivity), and exposure to occupational (e.g. asbestos) or environmental carcinogens, (e.g. indoor air pollution), radiation (e.g. ultraviolet and ionizing radiation), and some infections (such as hepatitis B or human papilloma virus infection).

Key risk factors for cancer that can be avoided are:

tobacco use - responsible for 1.8 million cancer deaths per year (60% of these deaths occur in low- and middle-income countries);

being overweight, obese or physically inactive - together responsible for 274 000 cancer deaths per year;

harmful alcohol use - responsible for 351 000 cancer deaths per year;

sexually transmitted human papilloma virus (HPV) infection - responsible for 235 000 cancer deaths per year; and

occupational carcinogens - responsible for at least 152 000 cancer deaths per year.

Cancer prevention is an essential component of all cancer control plans because about 40% of all cancer deaths can be prevented.

http://www.who.int/infobase/report.aspx?iso=USA & rid=125 & goButton=Go

What are the current states of risk factors contributing to cancer in United States of America?

http://www.who.int/infobase/report.aspx?iso=USA & rid=119 & goButton=Go

In 2005 CANCER killed approximately 579,000 people in United States259,000 of those people were under the age of 70 {44%}

In 2005 CANCER killed approximately 66,000 people in Thailand42,000 of those people were under the age of 70 {64%}

In 2005 CANCER killed approximately 826,000 people in India519,000 of those people were under the age of 70 {63%}

{in countries where cancer is not as well treated, most die from cardio or "other chronic" disease. Those where chronic is highest have lower lifespan.}

http://www.who.int/infobase/comparestart.aspx

http://www.who.int/infobase/compare.aspx?dm=10 & countries=840%2c356%2c392%2c246%2c124%2c764 & year=2002 & sf1=mo.cg.990 & sex=1

I selected mortality India, us, Canada, Finland, Thailand and Japan.

Build your own chart.

Regards

[ ] International Cancer Rates Some amazing data for international cancer rates here:http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html <http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html> The data are from twenty years ago. If anyone can find more up to date data please post.Mexico has an amazingly low overall cancer rate - all sites. One wonders to what extent the spicy food may be a factor.Rodney.

[Guest guest]

I eat Tom Yum soup here all the time and love it. However, when I was

in Thailand, the food (including the soup) was so hot that I could

barely get it down -- much to the amusement of the Thais. They like

it really, really *hot*. If it is indeed the peppers that give the

health benefits, then modifying the dish for American palates may not

do the trick.

Diane

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> > Quite an interesting chart. Kuwait is among the lowest of both

> > sexes although many other countries show differing rates between

> > the sexes (France for example very high for men only –

> > smoking???). But look at Thailand, lowest by far for both sexes!!

> > They do spice up their food, but could that account for such a

> > striking difference between Thailand and the next lowest country?

> > And what would account for the rock bottom number in Kuwait for

> > both sexes?

> >

> >

> > From: Rodney <perspect1111@...>

> > Reply-< >

> > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:33:12 -0000

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> > Some amazing data for international cancer rates here:

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> > http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html

> > <http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html>

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> > The data are from twenty years ago. If anyone can find more up to

> > date data please post.

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> > Mexico has an amazingly low overall cancer rate - all sites. One

> > wonders to what extent the spicy food may be a factor.

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> > Rodney.

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