Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 I can’t seem to find the post, but Jeff posted recently (within the past few months) that an examination of healthy centenarians revealed several vitamin/mineral deficiencies. Moral: there is no need to micro-manage your vitamins/minerals if you’re generally feeling good and healthy. And probably no need to take supplements (although I too take a very few). I would love to put that post into the files if anyone can dig it up! Jeff??? From: Rodney <perspect1111@...> Reply-< > Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:27:27 -0000 < > Subject: [ ] Re: Heavy soy eaters >>>dementia; moderate soy>> OK; Hi Carol: And maybe we need to talk here more than we have in the past about nutrient **excesses**, and how to avoid them. Iron especially, for all males and for women over 50. But pretty much all 'minerals' are dangerous in excess. And some vitamins also. This is another reason not to take more of them (in multis, for example) unless you really need them. But of course no one as far as I know has ever done studies to determine the intake of each micronutrient that is associated with maximum lifespan. Perhaps fifty years from now we will see such studies? Rodney. > > > What's wrong with just going heavy on the veggies, and maybe having > > > some tofu, fish and/or chicken now and then? No need to cut out soy > > > entirely, just cut down (as the study said, the dementia results are > > > only indicated for everyday tofu eaters; moderate eaters were Ok). > > > > > > I think the previous heading for this thread is misleading; please > > > note the change in subject heading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > *From: *Ulf Rasmusson ulf.rasmusson@ > > > *Reply-* <mailto:%2A %40> > > > *Date: *Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:43:38 +0200 > > > ** <mailto:%2A %40> > > > *Subject: *[ ] Re:Soy >>> Dementia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having transited from lean meat to soy protein with substantial > > > effort, partly to cut methionin - and now a second study linking > tofu > > > to dementia, damn it! Sure, it could be the formaldehyde and not the > > > estrogens, but wouldn't elementary safety indicate not going too > heavy > > > on soy? > > > > > > Assuming it's the estrogens that are the culprit, I wonder whether > > > anything can be said about non-tofu soy products....... The study > > > indicates that tempe is OK, Rodney hopes natto is OK and for me it > is > > > soy protein (defatted soy beans) - I was just going to buy another > 20 > > > kilos from a wholeseller .... hoping I don't have to make a major > > > dietary shift again..... > > > > > > // Ulf > > > > > > > > > Posted by Rodney: > > > > > > It looks like there is now another study suggesting a positive > > > association between some soy products and dementia: > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/7490202.stm > > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/7490202.stm> > > > > > > Hopefully not for natto? ; ^ ))) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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