Re: Re: Justice Kennedy democracy.... off topic....but there is linkage

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I don't necessarily agree.

The reason this society has been so successful- is because of its ability to recreate, regenerate- to be reborn.

Yin/yang breeds a certain amount of success.

What to do when yin and ying become corrupt may be more problematic. But not unsolvable.

Throw everyone out. See what you get.

Justice Kennedy democracy.... off topic....but there is linkage> > > Interesting and thought provoking, especially the last sentence by Greco ABA president.. "The most fundamental responsibility of members of the legal profession is to ensure that the law is used as an instrument to advance the basic principles of justice, fairness and equality." > > If that's the fundamental responsibility, then how come so many in congress who are lawyers, continually choose to get it wrong. how come so many of their corporate buddies who are also lawyers deliberately choose to get it wrong ?> > Kennedy's poignant admonition is probably the fundamental eason that global terrorism is so viciously aggressive and on the rise. Every time their leaders release statements to the press, they always allude to the corporatocracy and moral corruption of the West as the core of their grievances.> > It is clear to them and becoming clearer by effect to middleclass America that, the US government is corrupt and not addressing their real needs and solving their real problems. The fat cats in Washington and corporate boardrooms are just continuing to skim the fiscal cream off the top of everything leaving just paltry scraps for everyone else. This really frightens me because our titanic is surely heading for the destructive iceberg> Take care> n > > > > Sunday, Aug. 6, 2006 8:23 p.m. EDT > Justice Kennedy: Jury's Out on U.S. Democracy The United States is not making the case for freedom, democracy and Western law to the rest of the world, Supreme Court Justice Kennedy said over the weekend. "Make no mistake, there's a jury that's out. In half the world, the verdict is not yet in. The commitment to accept the Western idea of democracy has not yet been made, and they are waiting for you to make the case," Kennedy said in an address to the American Bar Association. Kennedy, 70, said he fears many parts of the world are not yet convinced that the American form of government as designed by the framers of the Constitution guarantees a better way of life. "Our best security, our only security, is in the world of ideas, and I sense a slight foreboding," he said. Kennedy, a moderate justice who has become a key swing vote on the Supreme Court, argued that the meaning of the phrase "rule of law" must be made clear in order to spread the cause of> freedom to other countries. He avoided singling out specific nations. He said the rule of law has three parts: it must be binding on all government officials, it must respect the dignity, equality and human rights of every person, and it must guarantee people the right to enforce the law without fear of retaliation. "Americans must understand that if the rules of law have meaning, such as hope and inspiration for the rest of the world, it must be coupled with the opportunity to improve human existence," Kennedy said. The United States' quest to spread freedom will only succeed if people in other countries accept the promises made by a democratic government, he said. "For us, law is a liberating force. It's a promise, it's a covenant that says you can hope, you can dream, you can dare, you can plan," he said. "We must explain to a doubting world where the verdict is still out." Kennedy, who has served on the Supreme Court since 1988, urged the attorneys in the> audience to do their part to work for the preservation of basic rights and uphold the principles of the American justice system. American Bar Association President Greco discussed some of the same themes as he introduced Kennedy. "Any threat to liberties and human rights in one country is a threat to the citizens of all nations," Greco said. "The most fundamental responsibility of members of the legal profession is to ensure that the law is used as an instrument to advance the basic principles of justice, fairness and equality." © 2006 Associated Press. . This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Editor's note:> Celebrate Reagan – Get "Reagan's Greatest Speeches" – Click Here Now> Make your fortune in Sectors - avoid the S & P! Click Here Now> Doctor: Pure Water Can Save Your Life – Click Here Now> > > ---------------------------------> Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.>

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The trend is clearly not good.

Justice Kennedy democracy.... off topic....but > there is linkage> > > > > > Interesting and thought provoking, especially the last > sentence by Greco ABA president.. "The most fundamental > responsibility of members of the legal profession is to ensure that > the law is used as an instrument to advance the basic principles of > justice, fairness and equality." > > > > If that's the fundamental responsibility, then how come so many > in congress who are lawyers, continually choose to get it wrong. how > come so many of their corporate buddies who are also lawyers > deliberately choose to get it wrong ?> > > > Kennedy's poignant admonition is probably the fundamental eason > that global terrorism is so viciously aggressive and on the rise. > Every time their leaders release statements to the press, they > always allude to the corporatocracy and moral corruption of the West > as the core of their grievances.> > > > It is clear to them and becoming clearer by effect to > middleclass America that, the US government is corrupt and not > addressing their real needs and solving their real problems. The > fat cats in Washington and corporate boardrooms are just continuing > to skim the fiscal cream off the top of everything leaving just > paltry scraps for everyone else. This really frightens me because > our titanic is surely heading for the destructive iceberg> > Take care> > n > > > > > > > > Sunday, Aug. 6, 2006 8:23 p.m. EDT > > Justice Kennedy: Jury's Out on U.S. Democracy The United > States is not making the case for freedom, democracy and Western law > to the rest of the world, Supreme Court Justice Kennedy said > over the weekend. "Make no mistake, there's a jury that's out. In > half the world, the verdict is not yet in. The commitment to accept > the Western idea of democracy has not yet been made, and they are > waiting for you to make the case," Kennedy said in an address to the > American Bar Association. Kennedy, 70, said he fears many parts of > the world are not yet convinced that the American form of government > as designed by the framers of the Constitution guarantees a better > way of life. "Our best security, our only security, is in the > world of ideas, and I sense a slight foreboding," he said. > Kennedy, a moderate justice who has become a key swing vote on the > Supreme Court, argued that the meaning of the phrase "rule of law" > must be made clear in order to spread the cause of> > freedom to other countries. He avoided singling out specific > nations. He said the rule of law has three parts: it must be > binding on all government officials, it must respect the dignity, > equality and human rights of every person, and it must guarantee > people the right to enforce the law without fear of > retaliation. "Americans must understand that if the rules of law > have meaning, such as hope and inspiration for the rest of the > world, it must be coupled with the opportunity to improve human > existence," Kennedy said. The United States' quest to spread > freedom will only succeed if people in other countries accept the > promises made by a democratic government, he said. "For us, law is a > liberating force. It's a promise, it's a covenant that says you can > hope, you can dream, you can dare, you can plan," he said. "We must > explain to a doubting world where the verdict is still out." > Kennedy, who has served on the Supreme Court since 1988, urged the > attorneys in the> > audience to do their part to work for the preservation of basic > rights and uphold the principles of the American justice system. > American Bar Association President Greco discussed some of > the same themes as he introduced Kennedy. "Any threat to liberties > and human rights in one country is a threat to the citizens of all > nations," Greco said. "The most fundamental responsibility of > members of the legal profession is to ensure that the law is used as > an instrument to advance the basic principles of justice, fairness > and equality." © 2006 Associated Press. . This > material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or > redistributed. Editor's note:> > Celebrate Reagan - Get "Reagan's Greatest Speeches" - > Click Here Now> > Make your fortune in Sectors - avoid the S & P! Click Here Now> > Doctor: Pure Water Can Save Your Life - Click Here Now> > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.> >>