Re: NO AUTISTIC AMISH; Jaundice

[Guest guest]

Hi Vera,

I know that liver function has a very direct result of jaundice, too. Liver

function is a vital

component to detoxification (Although a premie has no developed system for this

anyway).

This is very interesting. I would like to see the study out of Scotland... I

will have to contact

Deb.

Thanks,

> >

> > My 2 year old stopped being vaccinated at 4 months. Her older sister, now 5,

started

> regressing at 7 months and was gone by age 2. Her baby sister couldn't be

healthier. No

> regression there....no more vaccines either.

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------- Original message --------------

> > From: Rmoffi@

> >

> > " How many younger unvaccinated siblings do we have on this list where the

older

child

> has regressive (after age 1) autism? We must have 20-30 by now. How many have

> autism? It should be 20% but the number is zero, unless anyone knows of one. "

> >

> > Vera

> >

> > My grandson is now six. He " regressed " between 2 & 3 years of age. His baby

sister is

> now 3 1/2 and her vaccinations have been carefully monitored by a DAN doctor.

She has

> been a blessing to our family as she is a great help with her older brother,

of whom she

is

> extremely attached.

> >

> > So, add one more to the list of siblings without " regression " .

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>a study done in Scotland which found that children that suffered

difficult births and / or were premature were hundreds of times more

likely to end up on the spectrum. As time goes on, it is apparant

that jaundice is another huge risk factor.

Injection of newborns with Vitamin K in large doses has been

implicated as a cause of neonatal jaundice ( 1955; Cunningham

et al. 1989:611).

[Guest guest]

And it's also questionable if the vit K shot given at birth is to

blame for the jaundice issues, as well.

Debi

-- In EOHarm , Vera <sircarlito@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

>

> I have not yet found the study, but Deb Delp put something on her

list about one year ago that was a study done in Scotland which found

that children that suffered difficult births and / or were premature

were hundreds of times more likely to end up on the spectrum. As time

goes on, it is apparant that jaundice is another huge risk factor.

Jaundice really makes sense because it affects bile which I would

think is one of the only mechanisms that infants have to fight the

adjuvant onslaught with in the first year of life.

>

> I know of a family that had 3 totally NT boys (completely healthy)

during the 1990s -- how rare is that? The fourth boy was premature

and severly jaundiced. Of course they refused to listen and he got

all his shots on time, with no adjustment for prematurity or jaundice.

He just turned 3, and of course, he can not talk and is now PDD-NOS.

Although I do not see the classic autism of OCD, spinning, etc., many

of the other trademarks are there.

>

> Vera

>

> King <medfordkings1@...> wrote:

> This is the one reason that I wish I didn't have my boys

so close together (15 months

> apart). By the time I figured out what was causing my older son's

regression, My younger

> son had already been badly damaged. Granted he only got half the

Vaccines that his older

> brother did, but he was 1 month premature with jaundice, and

recieved the hep B four hrs

> after birth in '99. He is far, far more severely affected than his

brother. I'll take my chances

> on disease and try to equipe their immune systems as much as possible.

>

>

> >

> > My 2 year old stopped being vaccinated at 4 months. Her older

sister, now 5, started

> regressing at 7 months and was gone by age 2. Her baby sister

couldn't be healthier. No

> regression there....no more vaccines either.

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------- Original message --------------

> > From: Rmoffi@

> >

> > " How many younger unvaccinated siblings do we have on this list

where the older child

> has regressive (after age 1) autism? We must have 20-30 by now. How

many have

> autism? It should be 20% but the number is zero, unless anyone knows

of one. "

> >

> > Vera

> >

> > My grandson is now six. He " regressed " between 2 & 3 years of age.

His baby sister is

> now 3 1/2 and her vaccinations have been carefully monitored by a

DAN doctor. She has

> been a blessing to our family as she is a great help with her older

brother, of whom she is

> extremely attached.

> >

> > So, add one more to the list of siblings without " regression " .

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ok, i am coming into this late, but please send anything on jaundice

and

> ASD. both my kids had bad jaundice and i was told that no matter

how many

> kids i had, they all would be as it's a blood incompatibility thing

(not rh

> though).

>

> Holly

>

>

> My son had jaundice too.....

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ok, i am coming into this late, but please send anything on

jaundice and

> ASD. both my kids had bad jaundice and i was told that no matter

how many

> kids i had, they all would be as it's a blood incompatibility

thing (not rh

> though).

>

> Holly

>

>

> My son had jaundice too.....

>

My son also had jaundice. It was not Rh, he had all sorts of tests.

They did not find a reason but that was 1977. Had a blood exchange

on day 5 when the bulirubin did not come down.

I was so fearful of having another baby w/a problem they could not

explain that a year later I had my tubes tied.

[Guest guest]

Interesting.

By the birth of my third child I rejected ANYTHING injectable to my

newborn baby including Vit K. Both older siblings had it. They had

jaundice. The one w/o did not. Not science by any means but

interesting.

Baxters mom

> > >

> > > My 2 year old stopped being vaccinated at 4 months. Her older

> sister, now 5, started

> > regressing at 7 months and was gone by age 2. Her baby sister

> couldn't be healthier. No

> > regression there....no more vaccines either.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -------------- Original message --------------

> > > From: Rmoffi@

> > >

> > > " How many younger unvaccinated siblings do we have on this list

> where the older child

> > has regressive (after age 1) autism? We must have 20-30 by now.

How

> many have

> > autism? It should be 20% but the number is zero, unless anyone

knows

> of one. "

> > >

> > > Vera

> > >

> > > My grandson is now six. He " regressed " between 2 & 3 years of

age.

> His baby sister is

> > now 3 1/2 and her vaccinations have been carefully monitored by a

> DAN doctor. She has

> > been a blessing to our family as she is a great help with her

older

> brother, of whom she is

> > extremely attached.

> > >

> > > So, add one more to the list of siblings without " regression " .

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/nutrition/factsheets/vitamin-k.pdf

Under Toxicity:

" Excessive intake of vitamin K rarely occurs. Excess doses(>1000 times

the requirement) can promote thrombogenesis and hemolysis. These doses

of vitamin K can also increase risk of jaundice.

* The upper limit of safety for vitamin K has not been determined due

to lack of data substantiating adverse effects of high intakes. The

Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine recommends that

vitamin K should be consumed only from food sources to prevent intak

of potentially toxic levels.

My comment: So why are they injecting into newborn babies?

http://www.medicinenet.com/vitamin_k-injection/article.htm

WARNING: The injectable form of this medication must be used only when

the oral form cannot be used.

My comment: Then why are oral forms not given to newborn babies?

http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/VitaminK.html

My comment: If vit K is stored in the liver and we are naturally born

without that storage, is it good to suddenly inject the body with a

substance they weren't meant to have?

Debi

> > > >

> > > > My 2 year old stopped being vaccinated at 4 months. Her older

> > sister, now 5, started

> > > regressing at 7 months and was gone by age 2. Her baby sister

> > couldn't be healthier. No

> > > regression there....no more vaccines either.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -------------- Original message --------------

> > > > From: Rmoffi@

> > > >

> > > > " How many younger unvaccinated siblings do we have on this list

> > where the older child

> > > has regressive (after age 1) autism? We must have 20-30 by now.

> How

> > many have

> > > autism? It should be 20% but the number is zero, unless anyone

> knows

> > of one. "

> > > >

> > > > Vera

> > > >

> > > > My grandson is now six. He " regressed " between 2 & 3 years of

> age.

> > His baby sister is

> > > now 3 1/2 and her vaccinations have been carefully monitored by a

> > DAN doctor. She has

> > > been a blessing to our family as she is a great help with her

> older

> > brother, of whom she is

> > > extremely attached.

> > > >

> > > > So, add one more to the list of siblings without " regression " .

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Neither of my children received the vitamin k shot (or the eye drops)

They didn't have any problems.

According to the (vitamin k) product insert, adverse reactions include

hemolysis (meaning breakdown of red blood cells), hemolytic anaemia (a

disorder characterised by chronic premature destruction of red blood

cells), hyperbilirubinemia (too much bilirubin in blood) and jaundice

(yellow skin and eyes resulting from hyperbilirubinemia), and allergic

reactions include face flushing, gastrointestinal upset, rash,

redness, pain or swelling at injection site and itching skin. It also

warns that large enough doses can cause brain damage in infants and/or

impairment to liver function. Hypoxia has also been published as

having occurred in infants after Vitamin K administration.

The vitamin K injections administered by hospitals and manufactured by

Merck and Roche and Abbott contain benzyl alcohol as a preservative.

The 1989 PDR states that, " there is no evidence to suggest that the

small amount of benzyl alcohol contained in AquaMEPHYTON (Merck's

vitamin K injection product), when used as recommended, is associated

with toxicity. " Interestingly, in November 1988, the French medical

journal, Dev Pharmacol Ther, published a paper regarding benzyl

alcohol metabolism and elimination in babies. The report stated that

" ...we cannot directly answer the issue of safety of 'low doses' of

benzyl alcohol as found in some medications administered to neonates.

This study confirms the immaturity of the benzoic acid detoxification

process in premature newborns. "

· Roche's vitamin K product KONAKION contains ingredients such

as phenol (carbolic acid-a poisonous substance distilled from coal

tar), propylene glycol (derived from petroleum and used as an

antifreeze and in hydraulic brake fluid) and acetic acid (an

astringent antimicrobial agent that may drastically reduce the amount

of natural vitamin K that would have otherwise been produced in the

digestive tract). As reported in the PDR and as published in the IM

vitamin K packet inserts for Merck, Roche and Abbott, " Studies of

carcinogenicity, mutagenesis or impairment of fertility have not been

conducted with Vitamin K1 Injection (Phytonadione Injection, USP). "

[Guest guest]

I suspect that the same is true in Canada - our son's birth records,

hospital records, charts all have little to nothing to offer in terms

of vaccination history (no manufacturer or lot #'s etc.). It's really

sad.

> > >

> > > My 2 year old stopped being vaccinated at 4 months. Her older

> sister, now 5, started

> > regressing at 7 months and was gone by age 2. Her baby sister

> couldn't be healthier. No

> > regression there....no more vaccines either.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -------------- Original message --------------

> > > From: Rmoffi@

> > >

> > > " How many younger unvaccinated siblings do we have on this list

> where the older child

> > has regressive (after age 1) autism? We must have 20-30 by now. How

> many have

> > autism? It should be 20% but the number is zero, unless anyone knows

> of one. "

> > >

> > > Vera

> > >

> > > My grandson is now six. He " regressed " between 2 & 3 years of age.

> His baby sister is

> > now 3 1/2 and her vaccinations have been carefully monitored by a

> DAN doctor. She has

> > been a blessing to our family as she is a great help with her older

> brother, of whom she is

> > extremely attached.

> > >

> > > So, add one more to the list of siblings without " regression " .

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My son was born March 1999 and I'm pretty sure the ped told us he

got that shot at birth (before I knew better!).

Carolyn

> >>

> >> Neonatal jaundice can be part of the adverse events of the

birth Hep

> > B vaccine. Even if hospital records show no Hep B given at

birth if

> > your newborn baby had jaundice or exhibited cyanosis it's very

likely

> > the hospital did inject your child with it.

> >>

> >> A healthcare worker told us if your child was born in the 1990s

the

> > chances are highly likely a thimerosal-containing Hep B was

given even

> > if they failed to record it. It's our understanding that many

newborns

> > had the Hep B vaccine adverse reaction and the hospitals played

dumb.

> > While in some cases they erased the records or covered up the

adverse

> > reaction by making it a point to omit the jab from the records.

> >>

> >> In 1999 wasn't the Hep B pulled back from birth vaccination to

the

> > first jab at two months? I do know that nine months after the

AAP and

> > PHS " requested " thimerosal-free shots CDC claimed it was the

first

> > totally thimerosal-free vaccine.

> >>

> >>

>