FW: Re: The Fearless Voice of the Autism Mom by Kim Stagliano

[Guest guest]

“Fortunately for those of us who have children with autism, none

of

those supermarkets snipers are armed with ak-47's or IEDs.”

No, but the parents of Autism have often

come upon different weapons from their children with Autism who have been known

to be armed with explosive, smeared feces, sleepless nights, fits of extreme temper,

ferocious biting and pinching, and sometimes kicks to the head. There was

a tremendous amount of smart humor in Kim’s post and I think she deserves

to be supported by the Autism community for presenting such an analogy.

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From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of H. Beaulieu II

Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006

2:06 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: The Fearless

Voice of the Autism Mom by Kim Stagliano

Fortunately for those of us who have children with

autism, none of

those supermarkets snipers are armed with ak-47's or IEDs. It is

typically quite funny to put oneself in the place of public officials

and clearly know that a better job could be done by a monkey. Unlike

an autism mom the primary job of the secretary of defence/or other

military leader is not his troops safety it is victory within the

current objective. especially since subsequent objectives are often

not visible or determined at the time. I am quite frustrated with an

america that has become so fast food oriented that they cant

understand the time and manpower and dedication required for what is

going on in iraq. after world war II the united states occupied japan

for over 7 years before they were able to stand on their own. Japan

was a much more orderly and civilized nation than modern day iraq.

we have occupied iraq

for a couple years now, helping them to train

an appropriate domestic police force and intelligence community. How

do we think that this would take less time than japan did. in iraq we

also encounter infiltrators from surrounding countries who want to

cause trouble another issue not encountered in 1950 japan. I use the

post wwII Japan illustration

to point out the sheer idiocy of the

timetable of success that the iraq

nay sayers are trying to hold up

as a bench mark of true victory. I certainly dont minimize the

issues we face as parents of autistic kids but please lets not make

them into more than they are either. I find i only experience

frustration with my daughter or the situations that arise around her

when I dont have the appropriate expectations, this is also the case

with politics and particularly war.

paul

[Guest guest]

I just got a bill from the hospital for the CAT Scan I had to have

after my 5 1/2 year old non-potty trained child kicked me in the

head while i changed his diaper. War AND Autism parenthood

accumulate extreme unexpected expenses and injury, that's for sure.

>

> " Fortunately for those of us who have children with autism, none

of

> those supermarkets snipers are armed with ak-47's or IEDs. "

>

>

>

>

>

> No, but the parents of Autism have often come upon different

weapons from

> their children with Autism who have been known to be armed with

explosive,

> smeared feces, sleepless nights, fits of extreme temper, ferocious

biting

> and pinching, and sometimes kicks to the head. There was a

tremendous

> amount of smart humor in Kim's post and I think she deserves to be

supported

> by the Autism community for presenting such an analogy. -

>

> _____

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

Behalf Of

> H. Beaulieu II

> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 2:06 PM

> EOHarm

> Subject: Re: The Fearless Voice of the Autism Mom by Kim

Stagliano

>

>

>

> Fortunately for those of us who have children with autism, none of

> those supermarkets snipers are armed with ak-47's or IEDs. It is

> typically quite funny to put oneself in the place of public

officials

> and clearly know that a better job could be done by a monkey.

Unlike

> an autism mom the primary job of the secretary of defence/or other

> military leader is not his troops safety it is victory within the

> current objective. especially since subsequent objectives are

often

> not visible or determined at the time. I am quite frustrated with

an

> america that has become so fast food oriented that they cant

> understand the time and manpower and dedication required for what

is

> going on in iraq. after world war II the united states occupied

japan

> for over 7 years before they were able to stand on their own.

Japan

> was a much more orderly and civilized nation than modern day iraq.

> we have occupied iraq for a couple years now, helping them to

train

> an appropriate domestic police force and intelligence community.

How

> do we think that this would take less time than japan did. in iraq

we

> also encounter infiltrators from surrounding countries who want to

> cause trouble another issue not encountered in 1950 japan. I use

the

> post wwII Japan illustration to point out the sheer idiocy of the

> timetable of success that the iraq nay sayers are trying to hold

up

> as a bench mark of true victory. I certainly dont minimize the

> issues we face as parents of autistic kids but please lets not

make

> them into more than they are either. I find i only experience

> frustration with my daughter or the situations that arise around

her

> when I dont have the appropriate expectations, this is also the

case

> with politics and particularly war.

>

> paul

>

[Guest guest]

Unless you plan on coming over to my house for a bit and living my

life, don't belittle that which you haven't experienced either...

The pot is calling the kettle blithe...

>

> I am sorry but I have to disagree. I believe that kim's analogy

and

> some of these blithe comments diminish the service of those who

> actually risk their lives for YOU. I am a member of this list

because

> I want to read interesting things to help our autistic community

work

> toward not hurting any more kids with bad or dangerous medical

> procedures or protocols. I did not become one to have a parent

> make " cute " remarks that equate two very different issues. I

concede

> that my analogy of japan, while not exactly on point (neither is

> vietnam by the way) was only to point out the sillyness of

comparing

> parenting even the worst days with war.

>

> Dont belittle that which you have not experienced.

>

> that was my point

>

[Guest guest]

Amen, amen.kimsense <kimrspencer@...> wrote: i'm sorry, too, but here's how i see it. we as parents of children with autism ARE at war. we are at war with our own government in that we are trying to save our own children and children to come behind them from the biological terror that is being administered to them. it may not have come down to gun use, but there's a war, sir. you may not like the way kim or anyone else has put it yet. but we all feel like we are at war. fighting everyway we know

how every day with words and knowledge.this in NO WAY diminishes what our men and women in any overseas conflict have sacrificed. om, " H. Beaulieu II" <ballou12400@...> wrote:>> I am sorry but I have to disagree. I believe that kim's analogy and > some of these blithe comments diminish the service of those who > actually risk their lives for YOU. I am a member of this list because > I want to read interesting things to help our autistic community work > toward not hurting any more kids with bad or dangerous medical > procedures or protocols. I did not become one to have a parent > make "cute" remarks that equate two very different issues. I concede > that my analogy of japan, while not exactly on point (neither is > vietnam by the way) was only to point out the sillyness of comparing > parenting even the worst days with war.> >

Dont belittle that which you have not experienced.> > that was my point>

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[Guest guest]

>

> I am sorry but I have to disagree. I believe that kim's analogy

and

> some of these blithe comments diminish the service of those who

> actually risk their lives for YOU. I am a member of this list

because

> I want to read interesting things to help our autistic community

work

> toward not hurting any more kids with bad or dangerous medical

> procedures or protocols. I did not become one to have a parent

> make " cute " remarks that equate two very different issues. I

concede

> that my analogy of japan, while not exactly on point (neither is

> vietnam by the way) was only to point out the sillyness of

comparing

> parenting even the worst days with war.

>

> Dont belittle that which you have not experienced.

>

> that was my point

>Sir idon't believe that anyone is makeing demeaning comments about

our veterans .they are fine group of people.But our children can

make you feelthat you have been in a battle that you are so

completely drained emotionly that all you want to do is lay down and

cry.HOW many times have the police come to your door becuase you

child screaming so loud that someone thougt their life was endanger?

we are so fortunate to have a forum like this to bonce our thougts

and frutrations off of .God all of you.