Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Hi Bill: Not as far as I know. Rodney. >> " However, it appears that during starvation ..., an adequate amount> of substrate for the CNS is provided through gluconeogenesis and> ketogenesis (6). The elimination of dietary carbohydrate did not> diminish the energy supply to the CNS under the conditions of these> experiments.> > Second, carbohydrate is recommended to avert symptomatic ketosis.> [but] In the largest published series on carbohydrate restricted> diets, ketosis was not typically symptomatic (7).> > The most direct way to determine whether carbohydrate is an essential> nutrient is to eliminate it from the diet in controlled laboratory> studies. In studies involving rats and chicks, the elimination of> dietary carbohydrate caused no obvious problems (8–12). It was only> when carbohydrate restriction was combined with glycerol restriction> (by substituting fatty acids [which are a minor component of dietary> fats] for triacylglycerol [the form in which nearly all dietary fats> occur]) that chicks did not develop normally (13). ...> > The usual way to discover the essentiality of nutrients is through the> identification of specific deficiency syndromes (4). I found no> evidence of a carbohydrate deficiency syndrome in humans. ... [T]he> traditional Eskimo diet is very low ( 50 g/d) in carbohydrate (2). ...> > "Although there is certainly no evidence from which to conclude that> extreme restriction of dietary carbohydrate is harmless, I was> surprised to find that there is similarly little evidence to conclude> that extreme restriction of carbohydrate is harmful. In fact, the> consequential breakdown of fat as a result of carbohydrate restriction> may be beneficial in the treatment of obesity (7). Perhaps it is time> to carefully examine the issue of whether carbohydrate is an essential> component of human nutrition."> > http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/75/5/951-a> > hmmm> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 If you are keen on experimenting, the best thing to do would be to try it and share the results, impressions, which, as with everything else, I have reason to believe will greatly vary from person to person. I practiced very low carb dieting in conjunction with mild cr for a few months between late 2003 and early summer 2004. This necessarily involved high fat, high to moderate amounts of (in this case animal)protein intake. The first two weeks were a rather restive adaption period, followed by a month or so of calm. After about a month and a half I began experiencing a state of almost ontinuous stress, alarm and anxiety, and the compulsive need to be always doing something physically demanding-long intensive gym sessions, running from place to place, seeming never to tire out, being rather agressive amd most worringly sleed time had shrunk to 2 hours a night and mostly this was only possible if I went to bed early enough in the evening. I never could stay in bed after midnight. At 4 months my scalp hair had gone from no gray at all (I was 34) to very noticibly gray and I was showing otherwise some pretty unmistakable signs of accelerated aging. This was conclusive enough for me! I began to include some carbs in the form of oatmeal at breakfast, still clinging to the notion that a more moderate approach was still a good idea. It took a few more months however during carbs were inven more increased till sleep patterns became more normal and that tension, psychologically speaking, could be eased to the point were the compulsion to fidget and and exercise let off a bit. This is basically my experience with low-no carb dieting with the result that I have no desire to try it again. But no doubt the approach might proove more positive in someone else. > > > > " However, it appears that during starvation ..., an adequate amount > > of substrate for the CNS is provided through gluconeogenesis and > > ketogenesis (6). The elimination of dietary carbohydrate did not > > diminish the energy supply to the CNS under the conditions of these > > experiments. > > > > Second, carbohydrate is recommended to avert symptomatic ketosis. > > [but] In the largest published series on carbohydrate restricted > > diets, ketosis was not typically symptomatic (7). > > > > The most direct way to determine whether carbohydrate is an essential > > nutrient is to eliminate it from the diet in controlled laboratory > > studies. In studies involving rats and chicks, the elimination of > > dietary carbohydrate caused no obvious problems (8–12). It was > only > > when carbohydrate restriction was combined with glycerol restriction > > (by substituting fatty acids [which are a minor component of dietary > > fats] for triacylglycerol [the form in which nearly all dietary fats > > occur]) that chicks did not develop normally (13). ... > > > > The usual way to discover the essentiality of nutrients is through the > > identification of specific deficiency syndromes (4). I found no > > evidence of a carbohydrate deficiency syndrome in humans. ... [T] he > > traditional Eskimo diet is very low ( 50 g/d) in carbohydrate (2). ... > > > > " Although there is certainly no evidence from which to conclude that > > extreme restriction of dietary carbohydrate is harmless, I was > > surprised to find that there is similarly little evidence to conclude > > that extreme restriction of carbohydrate is harmful. In fact, the > > consequential breakdown of fat as a result of carbohydrate restriction > > may be beneficial in the treatment of obesity (7). Perhaps it is time > > to carefully examine the issue of whether carbohydrate is an essential > > component of human nutrition. " > > > > http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/75/5/951-a > > > > hmmm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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