There are no vegan centenarians

[Guest guest]

According to the following, if there are vegan centenarians, they are

impossible to find:

http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet3.html#8

This is not a scientific study, but it raises the question about

whether one can hope to live to 100 on a vegan diet. It would be nice

to know if any vegans ever made it to the century mark, and what

percentage of centenarians are vegan.

Tony

[Guest guest]

I agree.

And I understand your point but disagree with the implications of the post.

The website link is nothing more than a hearsay though some of the

points are accurate. B12 is an issue amongst vegans, which was ignored

for many decades and probably resulted in increased morbidity and

mortality amongst them. And like with any other human, Vit D,

calcium, iron, zinc, essential fats, etc are also issues that can not be

ignored because someone is a " vegan " , though many vegan have thought

this for decades.

Remember, while it is often promoted as such, veganism is not a dietary

philosophy or a blueprint for optimal health. It is a philosophy of

avoiding harm to animals that includes dietary " restrictions " , not

recommendations. There are dozens of variations of what a vegan might

(or might not) eat with few having anything to do with health and

longevity. The bottom line is compassion to animals and not human longevity

This is why I always argue that discussing such terms as vegan,

vegetarian, or using their statisitics in relation to CR-ON are

confusing and misleading. Someone could be a CRONie and choose to

follow a vegan diet and they would be as much an experiment as anyone

else. However, being a vegan does not in anyway indicate health.

Certain sects of Greek orthodox monks have been shown to have very low

rates of cancer and longer life. Same with the 7th day Adventists.

However, this is because of their austere diets amongst these few sects

or amongst certain groups within these religions. It does not mean in

anyway that the teaching or philosophy of the Greek Orthodox ( or 7th

Day Adventists) should be recommended (or criticized) as a road to CRON.

However, we do have the analysis of the Japanese and Chinese

centenarians and along with the work of the Bluezones. These all point

to a plant based diet as a key factor, with some of these groups

consuming over 90-95% of their calories from plant foods. And again,

that is what will matter most, the majority of what one does.

IMHO, if there is an issue with the vegan lifestyle and health, then the

point would be to identify the specific details and issues, and not

point a sweeping finger at the philosophy.

After all, there are many versions of CRON, and many CRONies have not

done well and some have had assorted health issues (ie. osteo). So, do

we point a finger at CRONies? or do we identify and address the specific

issues and details?

Regards

Jeff

citpeks wrote:

>

> According to the following, if there are vegan centenarians, they are

> impossible to find:

>

> http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet3.html#8

> <http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet3.html#8>

>

> This is not a scientific study, but it raises the question about

> whether one can hope to live to 100 on a vegan diet. It would be nice

> to know if any vegans ever made it to the century mark, and what

> percentage of centenarians are vegan.

>

> Tony

>

>