Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 According to the following, if there are vegan centenarians, they are impossible to find: http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet3.html#8 This is not a scientific study, but it raises the question about whether one can hope to live to 100 on a vegan diet. It would be nice to know if any vegans ever made it to the century mark, and what percentage of centenarians are vegan. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 I agree. And I understand your point but disagree with the implications of the post. The website link is nothing more than a hearsay though some of the points are accurate. B12 is an issue amongst vegans, which was ignored for many decades and probably resulted in increased morbidity and mortality amongst them. And like with any other human, Vit D, calcium, iron, zinc, essential fats, etc are also issues that can not be ignored because someone is a " vegan " , though many vegan have thought this for decades. Remember, while it is often promoted as such, veganism is not a dietary philosophy or a blueprint for optimal health. It is a philosophy of avoiding harm to animals that includes dietary " restrictions " , not recommendations. There are dozens of variations of what a vegan might (or might not) eat with few having anything to do with health and longevity. The bottom line is compassion to animals and not human longevity This is why I always argue that discussing such terms as vegan, vegetarian, or using their statisitics in relation to CR-ON are confusing and misleading. Someone could be a CRONie and choose to follow a vegan diet and they would be as much an experiment as anyone else. However, being a vegan does not in anyway indicate health. Certain sects of Greek orthodox monks have been shown to have very low rates of cancer and longer life. Same with the 7th day Adventists. However, this is because of their austere diets amongst these few sects or amongst certain groups within these religions. It does not mean in anyway that the teaching or philosophy of the Greek Orthodox ( or 7th Day Adventists) should be recommended (or criticized) as a road to CRON. However, we do have the analysis of the Japanese and Chinese centenarians and along with the work of the Bluezones. These all point to a plant based diet as a key factor, with some of these groups consuming over 90-95% of their calories from plant foods. And again, that is what will matter most, the majority of what one does. IMHO, if there is an issue with the vegan lifestyle and health, then the point would be to identify the specific details and issues, and not point a sweeping finger at the philosophy. After all, there are many versions of CRON, and many CRONies have not done well and some have had assorted health issues (ie. osteo). So, do we point a finger at CRONies? or do we identify and address the specific issues and details? Regards Jeff citpeks wrote: > > According to the following, if there are vegan centenarians, they are > impossible to find: > > http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet3.html#8 > <http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet3.html#8> > > This is not a scientific study, but it raises the question about > whether one can hope to live to 100 on a vegan diet. It would be nice > to know if any vegans ever made it to the century mark, and what > percentage of centenarians are vegan. > > Tony > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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