Re: Newbie reporting in.... sea vegetables

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Carol,

It is good that you track your nutrients. I should have said

" nutrient deficiencies " rather than " vitamin deficiencies " in my note.

There are plenty of FDA warnings about the consequences of vegetarian

diets that are not properly balanced (e.g.

http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/895_vegdiet.html). I suppose that we

could say the same thing about an omnivorous diet. It is not easy to

know when you have achieved Optimum Nutrition due to variability in

food nutrients and individual absorption issues.

Your use of " self-harvested sea vegetables " could expose you to excess

iodine which can cause thyroid problems. Many CRONies have stopped

consuming kelp and other seaweeds for this reason. There are plenty

of references about this topic.

Tony

==

Kim JY, Kim KR.

Dietary iodine intake and urinary iodine excretion in patients with

thyroid diseases.

Yonsei Med J. 2000 Feb;41(1):22-8.

This study suggests that the habitual ingestion of seaweed-containing

dietary supplements in addition to dietary iodine intake will have

adverse effects due to its excessive iodine intake.

PMID: 10731915

Mussig K, Thamer C, Bares R, Lipp HP, Haring HU, Gallwitz B.

Iodine-induced thyrotoxicosis after ingestion of

kelp-containing tea.

J Gen Intern Med. 2006 Jun;21(6):C11-4.

PMID: 16808731

Nishiyama S, Mikeda T, Okada T, Nakamura K, Kotani T, Hishinuma

Transient hypothyroidism or persistent hyperthyrotropinemia in

neonates born to mothers with excessive iodine intake.

Thyroid. 2004 Dec;14(12):1077-83.

PMID: 15650362

Teas J, Pino S, Critchley A, Braverman LE.

Variability of iodine content in common commercially available

edible seaweeds.

Thyroid. 2004 Oct;14(10):836-41.

PMID: 15588380

CD, Bassett B, Burge MR. Related Articles, Links

Abstract Effects of kelp supplementation on thyroid function in

euthyroid subjects.

Endocr Pract. 2003 Sep-Oct;9(5):363-9.

PMID: 14583417

Matsubayashi S, Mukuta T, Watanabe H, Fuchigami H, Taniguchi J,

Chinen M, Ninomiya H, Sasaki H.

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of confectionery made with tangle weed, Kombu, used as a low calorie

food during a bulimic period in a patient with anorexia nervosa.

Eat Weight Disord. 1998 Mar;3(1):50-2.

PMID: 11234256

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--- In , " C. Widger " <edgegardener@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Tony

> Perhaps I should call myself a strict vegetarian, rather than a

> vegan, as I am aproaching this from the health standpoint.

> Yes, I am food tracking with a Calorie King program.I will take a

look at the

> Cronometer to see if that works better. Using the CK on my palm Trio

keeps

> me accountable immediately at the meal, and records exercise as

well. At

> 1200 calories, I am currently losing 3-4 lbs a month, after an initial

> drop. It may well do better to increase my intake a little as winter

comes

> on.

> You are correct that it is not good to loose weight to fast, hence

taking

> over a year to reach my goal.

> I do add a tablespoon or 2 a day of black walnuts or ground flax for the

> Omegas, and eat large amounts of kale, collards and calcium rich

greens,

> plus many kinds of self-harvested sea vegetables. Grains play the

lesser part

> of the diet, being far less nutrient dense per calorie than the

multi-colored vegetables.

> Tony, do know know where to reference your statement that it

is easier for

> vegetarians to get vitamin deficiencies. Through ignorance, perhaps

at first,

> young teens trying out the " vegan " lifestyle without knowledge will not

> eat an nutritionally balanced diet.. In my experience, most

vegetarians who

> stick with it research , and learn a great deal a about cooking, and

> health. And as with Cronies, they are much more aware what they put into

> their bodies that most SAD Americans.

> Carol

>