Re: Need some help with low protein diets (also MR)

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Hi , I also use the Cronometer to design optimal diets.

I find that I can eat most vegetables without any limits and can also

include substantial amounts of fruit without exceeding my target

calorie limit.

The trick I am sure you know is to restrict fats. Like you I use

substantial amounts of fish oil. I eat little other fat besides nuts

and nut butters. This helps me to achieve an omega 6 to omega 3 ratio

of less than 2. (most American diets are around 20)

I also subscribe to Rodney's posted theories of methionine restriction

(MR). I have calculated using the Cronometer the amount of each

protein food required to yield the minimum daily amount of B12.

Foods I have found to be high in B12 but low in methionine(and

protein) include all types of liver, mackerel, pollock, trout,

sardines, herring, tuna, lobsters, crab, mussels, clams, and oysters.

Many fish such as swordfish, cod and salmon have one quarter or less

the amount of vitamin B12 as the foods above when calculated on a

calorie basis. Egg whites and chicken breasts have the lowest amounts

of B12 per calorie and per methionine and so I avoid them.

I also eat almonds for vitamin E and calcium and 4 brazil nuts a week

for selenium. Bok choy (pak-choi)is also helpful in boosting calcium.

Napa cabbage is helpful in boosting zinc. Blacksrap molasses helps

calcium. Wheat germ helps vitamin E.

Beware of counting on spinach to reach your desired calcium intake as

the calcium is bound up in oxalic acid and is not bio available. the

calcium in spinach must be subtracted out from the total.

I find it helps to search for foods that provide difficult to get

nutrients on a nutrient per calorie basis.

Good luck, Tim

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> As recently has been posted in this list, there are some benefits in

low protein diets.

> Unfortunately, I find it very difficult to achieve optimum nutrition

in such a diet. I prefer not to use supplements whenever possible.

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> I have been using the program Cron o meter, so far, and I find it

very useful. I know that a lot of cronies also use it. So I was

wondering if anybody could paste the info about the ingredients they

use on a regular day (along with the quantity).

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> I already managed to devise some diets, but would like to have more.

Eating the same everyday is boring and unhealthy.

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