Flu

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Hi ,

Thanks for that. I'll check them out.

Jaci

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[Guest guest]

Wanita,

>>News is saying the major flu is Fijian.

That virus has never been isolated. See Jon Rappoport's reporting on this

issue, at www.nomorefakenews.com

Especially in the archives there, the piece titled Where's the Virus? The

Fujian Fairy Tale.

Also, Jim West's research at www.geocities.com/harpub/flu2003.htm

Jim's the guy whose articles on SARS and polio were published in the Wise

Traditions Journal, knocking the wind out of the viral paradigm in favor of

the toxicology paradigm.

-

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to mention that our son had the flu for a week and we

mentioned it to Dr. Goldberg after the fact. He said that he wished we had

let him know our son was sick... he would have put him on flu anti-viral

meds. He mentioned two by name... Symmetrol and Flumadine.

Caroline

[Guest guest]

Thanks, ! Should have known better when it came from network

news...LOL . Toxicology makes sense with sick building and air in winter

cold. Reminded me of positive ion winds that can play havoc with health

which l knew. Full Moon Ion Effect

http://www.policeops.com/full-moon-ion-effect.htm indicates behaviors too.

Wanita

>

> >>News is saying the major flu is Fijian.

>

>That virus has never been isolated. See Jon Rappoport's reporting on this

>issue, at www.nomorefakenews.com

>Especially in the archives there, the piece titled Where's the Virus? The

>Fujian Fairy Tale.

>Also, Jim West's research at www.geocities.com/harpub/flu2003.htm

>Jim's the guy whose articles on SARS and polio were published in the Wise

>Traditions Journal, knocking the wind out of the viral paradigm in favor of

>the toxicology paradigm.

>

>-

[Guest guest]

Wanita,

>>Should have known better when it came from network news...LOL .

Yeah.. as far as I'm concerned, it's like watching a fictional movie, and

I've seen better :-)

>>Toxicology makes sense with sick building and air in winter

cold. Reminded me of positive ion winds that can play havoc with health

which l knew. Full Moon Ion Effect

http://www.policeops.com/full-moon-ion-effect.htm indicates behaviors too.

Great point, I'd forgotten about that! And now we have mercury in

retrograde too, if you subscribe to that...

-

[Guest guest]

>Canadian microbiologists have learned that hebs with high levels of tannic acid

are an effective antiviral agent against polio, herps simplex, bronchitis, and

influenza. Herbs with high levels of tannic acid include but are not limited to

yellow dock, geraniums, white oak bark, bayberry, and witch hazel.

How about red wine?

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Solar eclipse with the new moon tomorrow. Mercury retrograde barely past

sun, moon.

Wanita

>Great point, I'd forgotten about that! And now we have mercury in

>retrograde too, if you subscribe to that...

>

>-

[Guest guest]

>Hi Heidi

>

> I don't know the chemical make up of red wine, I'm an herbalist not a

wineologist But if it's high in tannic acid and not pasturized you may be on to

something. If nothing else could make forget about the flu lol.

Red wine is high in tannins, esp, I think, if it is from an oak cask.

In my Mom's day, the " cure " for the flu (even in kids) was a hot

wine toddy -- wine, lemon juice, sugar. Like you say,

whether or not it cured you, you at least got some sleep!

There is a story in our family where I got very sick with

strep throat while we were on a ship. The ship had no

doctor, we had no antibiotics, and I had a high fever. They

were talking about calling in a helicopter. My dear Mom left

a liter of wine by my bed, and said " drink this during the night " .

Midway through the night, I was really sick, and poured a little

bit of the wine and drank it. Then I thought, well, she must have

meant " drink the whole thing " during the night, so I did. Needless

to say I got really sick to my stomach and barely made it to the

head (the ship was pitching and rolling too!). But the next morning

I was fine.

I confessed my misunderstanding to my Mom in the morning.

She said, " Oh, you didn't misunderstand ... that's exactly what

I meant " . Apparently that's pretty much the treatment she

got " in the old days " . I'm not recommending it though! The

ship was in international waters so US alcohol laws did

not apply.

Tea is full of tannins too, I think, and if it's the tannins

that work, tea is probably safer!

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

Great story re your flu and wine.. do you think wine has more tannin per

volume than tea? I can't have alcohol, so am just wondering if it would

make sense to boil off the alcohol and use wine that way, or just go with

tea. Not sure I could drink that much of either of those to constitute a

therapeutic dose, though! Lots of medicinal herbs contain tannins, maybe

that's one of their benefits.

-

[Guest guest]

How about dark grape juice? Wouldn't that have the same amount of tannin?

Guess it would contain a lot of sugar though.

- Filippa

Re: flu

Heidi,

Great story re your flu and wine.. do you think wine has more tannin per

volume than tea? I can't have alcohol, so am just wondering if it would

make sense to boil off the alcohol and use wine that way, or just go with

tea. Not sure I could drink that much of either of those to constitute a

therapeutic dose, though! Lots of medicinal herbs contain tannins, maybe

that's one of their benefits.

-

[Guest guest]

I haven't the foggiest ... I suspect if you do a search the tannin

content will be listed somewhere. Too much tannin gives

me an upset stomach, and based on THAT, tea has more tannins.

Tea and wine and the herbs are full of other good stuff too

though. Maybe stick with the traditional: Hot tea, lemon juice,

and honey?

-- Heidi

>Heidi,

>

>Great story re your flu and wine.. do you think wine has more tannin per

>volume than tea? I can't have alcohol, so am just wondering if it would

>make sense to boil off the alcohol and use wine that way, or just go with

>tea. Not sure I could drink that much of either of those to constitute a

>therapeutic dose, though! Lots of medicinal herbs contain tannins, maybe

>that's one of their benefits.

>

>-

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/22/03 4:54:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,

heidis@... writes:

> Tea is full of tannins too, I think, and if it's the tannins

> that work, tea is probably safer!

Plus it has the added benefit of l-theonine, which stimulates production of

antibodies and protects against viral infections.

But wine would probably help more in getting sleep, which is really

important, IMO. I think it's better to avoid drugs if possible, but if you

can't sleep

when you're sick, anything that helps you sleep is probably better than

nothing.

Chris

[Guest guest]

My mother always said that the tannins in tea were potentially

harmful. She claimed that Asians have a much higher rate of stomach

cancer than the English. Asians drink their tea straight, whereas

English always take their tea with milk (or other food) which

mitigates the tannins. I do not know if this is true, but it seems

plausible. Straight tea on an empty stomach definitely hurts my

stomach, so I try to avoid that.

Someone recently posted here about milk interfering with the

absorption of good things (tannins?) in tea...so I'm pretty confused

about the issue.

Suffice it to say that tea is a good thing to take when you're sick.

Tom

--- In , <karenr@c...>

wrote:

> Heidi,

>

> Great story re your flu and wine.. do you think wine has more tannin

per

> volume than tea? I can't have alcohol, so am just wondering if it would

> make sense to boil off the alcohol and use wine that way, or just go

with

> tea. Not sure I could drink that much of either of those to

constitute a

> therapeutic dose, though! Lots of medicinal herbs contain tannins,

maybe

> that's one of their benefits.

>

> -

[Guest guest]

Tom wrote <<My mother always said that the tannins in tea were potentially

harmful. She claimed that Asians have a much higher rate of stomach cancer than

the English. Asians drink their tea straight, whereas English always take their

tea with milk (or other food) which

mitigates the tannins. >>

Tom,

it really depends which Asian culture you're talking about... it was in India

that the British learned to drink their tea with milk... the Chinese of course

don't traditionally drink milk with anything... neither did the Japanese... both

drink their tea very weak compared to English or Indians.

Dedy

[Guest guest]

Tia,

My mistake....all I meant to do was post a warning regarding the flu

vaccine. Sorry

Tom

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GARLIC PILLS, A COUPLE EVERY COUPLE OF HOURS

h2o2 IN THE EARS FOR 30 SECONDS EACH

PEEL AND EAT TANGERINES

flu

ok guys,

I think I could very possibly be coming down with the flu. Any suggestions?

http://www.boxertown.com

[Guest guest]

On 2/23/06, wrote:

>

> ok guys,

> I think I could very possibly be coming down with the flu. Any

> suggestions?

>

> http://www.boxertown.com

>

>

>

Chicken broth

up your CLO & VCO intake

says plain white vinegar is better in the ears than H2O2

Steph

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[Guest guest]

why is vinegar better?

Re: flu

On 2/23/06, wrote:

>

> ok guys,

> I think I could very possibly be coming down with the flu. Any

> suggestions?

>

> http://www.boxertown.com

>

>

>

Chicken broth

up your CLO & VCO intake

says plain white vinegar is better in the ears than H2O2

Steph

--

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The Christian Alternative to Yoga

[Guest guest]

I've been experimenting lately with taking 1 - 2 grams of vitamin C

every hour or two until either the symptoms go away or I get the

runs. Not something to try if you're far from a bathroom! But since

I've been playing around with this, I've only gotten sick when I get

lazy about keeping it up, and none of them have entered my chest, made

me get a fever, or really knocked me out the way things did last

winter. Usually if it doesn't go away the first day, I only get a

stuffy nose and still have plenty of energy.

This is a theory by Linus ing, Cathcart, and Klenner, that if you

take as much C as your body can absorb, it first eliminates all the

toxins from the disease, then the germs themselves (or helps your body

do it). So first all your symptoms go away (or ease up much better

than from medications at least) then after another day or two of high

dose C the germs themselves are wiped out. Then you wean yourself off

the high amounts gradually to keep the few survivors from being able

to have a resurgance. A homeless guy first told me about it!

I've also heard that chicken soup with plenty of vegetables is good.

- Renate

>

> ok guys,

> I think I could very possibly be coming down with the flu. Any

suggestions?

>

> http://www.boxertown.com

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I just got over a flu. I tried real garlic (not pills), echinacea,

elderberry but what did it was definitely a homeopathic remedy.

Oscillo by Boiron (the actual name is longer) is common and it worked

but may be more expensive per dose than some competing brands. Next

time sickness comes around I'm going straight to the homeopathic remedy.

cheers,

J

>

> ok guys,

> I think I could very possibly be coming down with the flu. Any

suggestions?

[Guest guest]

On 2/23/06, panamabob@... wrote:

>

> why is vinegar better?

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Steph

>

>

> says plain white vinegar is better in the ears than H2O2

>

> Steph

>

>

>

He says that the bubbling from H2O2 is some of the oxygen bubbling off and

what you're left with in your ear is H20, which can cause problems and

apparently did for him. Actually, I'll just quote him, since he explains

things much better than I do. :-)

" Actually, I'd strongly recommend switching from HP to Heinz white vinegar.

As hydrogen peroxide bubbles in your ear, it's actually turning into plain

water, and when the process is finished, it's dramatically cut the natural,

protective acidity of your ear, leaving you more vulnerable to infections.

Yes, it can kill undesirable organisms, but it can also leave your ear more

vulnerable, and if the peroxide doesn't reach all of the infection, you can

actually get sicker. That happened to me once, which is how I found out

about this.

- "

Steph :-)

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[Guest guest]

Steph,

what is " vco? " and how much should I up the CLO, I take a tablespoon everyday.

http://www.boxertown.com

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[Guest guest]

Interested in where you got this as everyone around me is getting or has the

flu. I have been giving my daughter

Echinacea, olive leaf and vitamin c along with colloidal silver.

She is doing better but it has been dragging out.

Allyn

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Pearl

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:14 PM

Subject: Re: flu

Hi,

I just got over a flu. I tried real garlic (not pills), echinacea,

elderberry but what did it was definitely a homeopathic remedy.

Oscillo by Boiron (the actual name is longer) is common and it worked

but may be more expensive per dose than some competing brands. Next

time sickness comes around I'm going straight to the homeopathic remedy.

cheers,

J

>

> ok guys,

> I think I could very possibly be coming down with the flu. Any

suggestions?

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the nice thing about the garlic pills is that they make it down into your

intestines,,,eating enough garlic to help knock out the virus would also

probably make you feel pretty bad in your belly...

and constantly be belching...

but what ever works for you...

:-))

Re: flu

Hi,

I just got over a flu. I tried real garlic (not pills), echinacea,

elderberry but what did it was definitely a homeopathic remedy.

Oscillo by Boiron (the actual name is longer) is common and it worked

but may be more expensive per dose than some competing brands. Next

time sickness comes around I'm going straight to the homeopathic remedy.

cheers,

J

>

> ok guys,

> I think I could very possibly be coming down with the flu. Any

suggestions?

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On 2/24/06, wrote:

>

> Steph,

> what is " vco? " and how much should I up the CLO, I take a tablespoon

> everyday.

>

> <http://www.boxertown.com>

VCO is coconut oil (virgin coconut oil to be precise). It's anti-viral,

among other things. Hmm, I don't know about the CLO. I guess it depends on

what brand you're using, too. I use Blue Ice and when I was sick last week

I went up to 2 tsp.

Steph :-)

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