Re: Alcohol and cancer in women

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I must reply to this one. My mom, a slim, health-conscious vegetarian who also consumed fish and dairy products as well as supplements as necessary, drank a glass or two of wine every night for years. She ate lots of veggies and fruit, very little junk food, rarely any sugar, didn't smoke, great outlook on life. Just died at 85 this past summer from colon cancer. No exposure to bad stuff, avoided chemicals. Everything else about her was fine, no arthritis, great heart and arteries.

I'm convinced it ain't good for ya, even the organic stuff, but I'll have a beer once in a while. I am not perfect, not perfect, not per......

Lowther

From: Diane Walter <dianepwalter@...>Subject: [ ] Alcohol and cancer in women Received: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 6:01 PM

For a short while I tried drinking a glass of red wine in the evening,but quit because I didn't like the extra calories, nor the fuzzythinking. Now I feel better about that decision. This is a subject close to my own heart: More evidence links alcohol, cancer in womenWASHINGTON â€" A study of nearly 1.3 million British women offers yetmore evidence that moderate alcohol consumption increases the risk ofa handful of cancers. British researchers surveyed middle-aged womenat breast cancer screening clinics about their drinking habits, andtracked their health for seven years.A quarter of the women reported no alcohol use. Nearly all the restreported fewer than three drinks a day; the average was one drink aday. Researchers compared the lightest drinkers â€" two or fewer drinksa week â€" with people who drank more.Each extra drink per day increased the risk of breast,

rectal andliver cancer, University of Oxford researchers reported Tuesday in theJournal of the National Cancer Institute. The type of alcohol â€" wine,beer or liquor â€" didn't matter.That supports earlier research, but the new wrinkle: Alcoholconsumption was linked to esophageal and oral cancers only whensmokers drank.Also, moderate drinkers actually had a lower risk of thyroid cancer,non-Hodgkin' s lymphoma and renal cell cancer.For an individual woman, the overall alcohol risk is small. Indeveloped countries, about 118 of every 1,000 women develop any ofthese cancers, and each extra daily drink added 11 breast cancers andfour of the other types to that rate, the study found.But population-wide, 13 percent of those cancers in Britain may beattributable to alcohol, the researchers concluded.Moderate alcohol use has long been thought to be heart-healthy,something

the new research doesn't address but that prompts repeateddebate about safe levels. U.S. health guidelines already recommendthat women consume no more than one drink a day; two a day for men,who metabolize alcohol differently."You have to balance all those things out," said Dr. Philip J. ,who researches alcohol and cancer at the National Institutes ofHealth. "This kind of information is important for people to know andto consult with their physician about the various risk factors they have."http://news. / s/ap/20090224/ ap_on_he_ me/med_alcohol_ cancer

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First of all 85 ain’t all that bad when you consider that people get cancers like this as early as their 40’s and do, so we’ll never know if she might have gotten this cancer younger if she lived differently. Second, diary products (which we have posted about here) could have been the culprit. - not necessarily the wine. As Rod has often posted, dairy causes inflammation ( I myself take a small amt in coffee as well as in yogurt). Third, you can’t conclude anything from one mouse.

I just heard about this study on the news. The risk is only 2% more! Not worth worrying about afa I’m concerned. I’m sticking with my (makes my life more joyous) wine consumption. But we all have to place our bets the way we see it.

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I must reply to this one. My mom, a slim, health-conscious vegetarian who also consumed fish and dairy products as well as supplements as necessary, drank a glass or two of wine every night for years. She ate lots of veggies and fruit, very little junk food, rarely any sugar, didn't smoke, great outlook on life. Just died at 85 this past summer from colon cancer. No exposure to bad stuff, avoided chemicals. Everything else about her was fine, no arthritis, great heart and arteries.

I'm convinced it ain't good for ya, even the organic stuff, but I'll have a beer once in a while. I am not perfect, not perfect, not per......

Lowther

From: Diane Walter <dianepwalter@...>

Subject: [ ] Alcohol and cancer in women

Received: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 6:01 PM

For a short while I tried drinking a glass of red wine in the evening,

but quit because I didn't like the extra calories, nor the fuzzy

thinking. Now I feel better about that decision.

This is a subject close to my own heart:

More evidence links alcohol, cancer in women

WASHINGTON †" A study of nearly 1.3 million British women offers yet

more evidence that moderate alcohol consumption increases the risk of

a handful of cancers. British researchers surveyed middle-aged women

at breast cancer screening clinics about their drinking habits, and

tracked their health for seven years.

A quarter of the women reported no alcohol use. Nearly all the rest

reported fewer than three drinks a day; the average was one drink a

day. Researchers compared the lightest drinkers †" two or fewer drinks

a week †" with people who drank more.

Each extra drink per day increased the risk of breast, rectal and

liver cancer, University of Oxford researchers reported Tuesday in the

Journal of the National Cancer Institute. The type of alcohol †" wine,

beer or liquor †" didn't matter.

That supports earlier research, but the new wrinkle: Alcohol

consumption was linked to esophageal and oral cancers only when

smokers drank.

Also, moderate drinkers actually had a lower risk of thyroid cancer,

non-Hodgkin' s lymphoma and renal cell cancer.

For an individual woman, the overall alcohol risk is small. In

developed countries, about 118 of every 1,000 women develop any of

these cancers, and each extra daily drink added 11 breast cancers and

four of the other types to that rate, the study found.

But population-wide, 13 percent of those cancers in Britain may be

attributable to alcohol, the researchers concluded.

Moderate alcohol use has long been thought to be heart-healthy,

something the new research doesn't address but that prompts repeated

debate about safe levels. U.S. health guidelines already recommend

that women consume no more than one drink a day; two a day for men,

who metabolize alcohol differently.

" You have to balance all those things out, " said Dr. Philip J. ,

who researches alcohol and cancer at the National Institutes of

Health. " This kind of information is important for people to know and

to consult with their physician about the various risk factors they have. "

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+1   Life causes cancer... Cancer is a constant struggle between damage and repair, and she apparently had an above average machine. The only thing we know for certain is at some point this machine will fail us.JR On Feb 24, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Francesca Skelton wrote:First of all 85 ain’t all that bad withdog owners like you. 

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Also, alcoholic beverages are not all alike. For example, since I can’t taste the difference, I buy cheap bulk wine which is only 12% alcohol. Comparing that to other alcoholic beverages, such as more expensive wines, liqueurs and vodka (which I sometimes cook with) the range is 13.5–40% alcohol.

I’ve long suspected a difference in alcoholic content because when I order wine in a restaurant I get a “buzz” from a much smaller amount than at home. But didn’t actual confirm it until just now by reading the alcoholic content of different wines, liqueurs and vodka.

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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:08:04 -0600

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+1   Life causes cancer... 

Cancer is a constant struggle between damage and repair, and she apparently had an above average machine. The only thing we know for certain is at some point this machine will fail us.

JR

 

On Feb 24, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Francesca Skelton wrote:

First of all 85 ain’t all that bad with

dog owners like you

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Hi :

I wonder what her serum 25(OH)D was?

Do not forget the study posted here which showed, among other things,

that after four years of supplementation with calcium and vitamin D

the thousands of post-menopausal female subjects experienced 90%

fewer new cancer diagnoses than the unsupplemented control group.

Nor the paper which reported very recently that for patients with

prostate cancer those with the lowest serum 25(OH)D were SEVEN times

more likely to die from it than those with the highest levels.

Rodney.

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> From: Diane Walter <dianepwalter@...>

> Subject: [ ] Alcohol and cancer in women

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> Received: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 6:01 PM

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> For a short while I tried drinking a glass of red wine in the

evening,

> but quit because I didn't like the extra calories, nor the fuzzy

> thinking. Now I feel better about that decision.

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> This is a subject close to my own heart:

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> More evidence links alcohol, cancer in women

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> WASHINGTON †" A study of nearly 1.3 million British women

offers yet

> more evidence that moderate alcohol consumption increases the risk

of

> a handful of cancers. British researchers surveyed middle-aged women

> at breast cancer screening clinics about their drinking habits, and

> tracked their health for seven years.

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> A quarter of the women reported no alcohol use. Nearly all the rest

> reported fewer than three drinks a day; the average was one drink a

> day. Researchers compared the lightest drinkers †" two or fewer

drinks

> a week †" with people who drank more.

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> Each extra drink per day increased the risk of breast, rectal and

> liver cancer, University of Oxford researchers reported Tuesday in

the

> Journal of the National Cancer Institute. The type of alcohol â

€ " wine,

> beer or liquor †" didn't matter.

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> That supports earlier research, but the new wrinkle: Alcohol

> consumption was linked to esophageal and oral cancers only when

> smokers drank.

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> Also, moderate drinkers actually had a lower risk of thyroid cancer,

> non-Hodgkin' s lymphoma and renal cell cancer.

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> For an individual woman, the overall alcohol risk is small. In

> developed countries, about 118 of every 1,000 women develop any of

> these cancers, and each extra daily drink added 11 breast cancers

and

> four of the other types to that rate, the study found.

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> But population-wide, 13 percent of those cancers in Britain may be

> attributable to alcohol, the researchers concluded.

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> Moderate alcohol use has long been thought to be heart-healthy,

> something the new research doesn't address but that prompts repeated

> debate about safe levels. U.S. health guidelines already recommend

> that women consume no more than one drink a day; two a day for men,

> who metabolize alcohol differently.

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> " You have to balance all those things out, " said Dr. Philip J.

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> who researches alcohol and cancer at the National Institutes of

> Health. " This kind of information is important for people to know

and

> to consult with their physician about the various risk factors they

have. "

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