Guest guest Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Wow- as an " aged mouse " , I am wondering if the increase in skeletal muscle would help delay the effects of osteoporosis. I added " BCAA " to our acronymn table. For those of you who are new to the group, we have a database of commonly used acronyms in papers (and posts) about nutrition, biology, CR, etc. You can find it on the group website by clicking on " Database " in the list on the left, and then clicking on " Acronym Table " . Or, you can click on this link: /database?method=reportRows & t\ bl=22 Diane > > A supplement of leucine, isoleucine, and valine (branched chain amino acids) given for several months increased lifespan by 12% and increased activity of SIRT1: > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101005121710.htm > > > Amino Acid Supplement Makes Mice Live Longer > > ScienceDaily (Oct. 5, 2010) — When mice are given drinking water laced with a special concoction of amino acids, they live longer than your average mouse, according to a new report in the October issue of Cell Metabolism, a Cell Press publication. The key ingredients in the supplemental mixture are so-called branched-chain amino acids, which account for 3 of the 20 amino acids (specifically leucine, isoleucine, and valine) that are the building blocks of proteins. > > " This is the first demonstration that an amino acid mixture can increase survival in mice, " said Enzo Nisoli of Milan University in Italy, noting that researchers last year showed that leucine, isoleucine, and valine extend the life span of single-celled yeast. > > In the new study, the researchers gave middle-aged, male mice extra branched-chain amino acids (BCAA) in their drinking water. The animals were otherwise healthy and eating standard mouse chow. > > Animals that were given the extra amino acids over a period of months lived longer, with a median life span of 869 days compared to 774 days for untreated control animals, the researchers report. That's an increase of 12 percent. > > Those survival gains were accompanied by an increase in mitochondria in cardiac and skeletal muscles. Mitochondria are the cellular components responsible for powering cells. The supplement-fed mice also showed increased activity of SIRT1, a well-known longevity gene, and of the defense system that combats free radicals. They therefore showed fewer signs of oxidative damage. > > The benefits of the amino acid supplements appear similar to those earlier ascribed to calorie restriction, Nisoli said. > > Treated animals also showed improvements in their exercise endurance and in motor coordination, the researchers report. (It is important to note that the animals in the current study were all male, Nisoli said. They plan to test the effects in females in future studies.) > > The findings in older mice suggest that the supplementary mixture may be specifically beneficial for those who are elderly or ill. " It may not be useful in young people or body builders, " who are already in good condition, he said. But it might be a useful preventive strategy, he added, emphasizing that the mice they studied " were just aged, not sick. " > > Nisoli emphasized that consuming amino acid supplements is different from consuming proteins containing those amino acids. That's because they do not have to be digested, and can enter the bloodstream immediately. " They come with no energy cost. " > > He suspects that BCAA nutritional supplements may prove to be particularly helpful for people with heart failure, the muscle-wasting condition known as sarcopenia, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or other conditions characterized by energy defects. In fact, there are already some small studies in human to support that idea and BCAA supplements are already available for purchase in several countries, including Italy. > > The challenge, Nisoli says, will be convincing clinicians that these supplements might be a benefit to their patients. He says a large clinical trial is needed, but there is little incentive for companies to do such trials for dietary supplements as opposed to drugs. > > Overall, Nisoli said the new work supports a " general philosophy of a nutritional approach to disease, aging, and problems of energy status. " > > The researchers include Giuseppe D'Antona, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Maurizio Ragni, Milan University, Milan, Italy; lisa Cardile, Milan University, Milan, Italy; Tedesco, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Marta Dossena, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Flavia Bruttini, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Francesca Caliaro, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Giovanni Corsetti, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; o Bottinelli, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Michele O. Carruba, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Alessandra Valerio, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; and Enzo Nisoli, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy. > Email or share this story: > | More > > Story Source: > > The above story is reprinted (with editorial adaptations by ScienceDaily staff) from materials provided by Cell Press, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS. > > Journal Reference: > > 1. Giuseppe D'Antona, Maurizio Ragni, lisa Cardile, Tedesco, Marta Dossena, Flavia Bruttini, Francesca Caliaro, Giovanni Corsetti, o Bottinelli, Michele O. Carruba, Alessandra Valerio, Enzo Nisoli. Branched-Chain Amino Acid Supplementation Promotes Survival and Supports Cardiac and Skeletal Muscle Mitochondrial Biogenesis in Middle-Aged Mice. Cell Metabolism, Volume 12, Issue 4, 362-372, 6 October 2010 DOI: 10.1016/j.cmet.2010.08.016 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 By the way, BCAAs can be purchased as a supplement in capsules, but the best and most palatable source for these amino acids in my opinion is dairy whey. If you are sensitive to dairy protein, pea protein isolate is an alternative. Dave > > > > A supplement of leucine, isoleucine, and valine (branched chain amino acids) given for several months increased lifespan by 12% and increased activity of SIRT1: > > > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101005121710.htm > > > > > > Amino Acid Supplement Makes Mice Live Longer > > > > ScienceDaily (Oct. 5, 2010) — When mice are given drinking water laced with a special concoction of amino acids, they live longer than your average mouse, according to a new report in the October issue of Cell Metabolism, a Cell Press publication. The key ingredients in the supplemental mixture are so-called branched-chain amino acids, which account for 3 of the 20 amino acids (specifically leucine, isoleucine, and valine) that are the building blocks of proteins. > > > > " This is the first demonstration that an amino acid mixture can increase survival in mice, " said Enzo Nisoli of Milan University in Italy, noting that researchers last year showed that leucine, isoleucine, and valine extend the life span of single-celled yeast. > > > > In the new study, the researchers gave middle-aged, male mice extra branched-chain amino acids (BCAA) in their drinking water. The animals were otherwise healthy and eating standard mouse chow. > > > > Animals that were given the extra amino acids over a period of months lived longer, with a median life span of 869 days compared to 774 days for untreated control animals, the researchers report. That's an increase of 12 percent. > > > > Those survival gains were accompanied by an increase in mitochondria in cardiac and skeletal muscles. Mitochondria are the cellular components responsible for powering cells. The supplement-fed mice also showed increased activity of SIRT1, a well-known longevity gene, and of the defense system that combats free radicals. They therefore showed fewer signs of oxidative damage. > > > > The benefits of the amino acid supplements appear similar to those earlier ascribed to calorie restriction, Nisoli said. > > > > Treated animals also showed improvements in their exercise endurance and in motor coordination, the researchers report. (It is important to note that the animals in the current study were all male, Nisoli said. They plan to test the effects in females in future studies.) > > > > The findings in older mice suggest that the supplementary mixture may be specifically beneficial for those who are elderly or ill. " It may not be useful in young people or body builders, " who are already in good condition, he said. But it might be a useful preventive strategy, he added, emphasizing that the mice they studied " were just aged, not sick. " > > > > Nisoli emphasized that consuming amino acid supplements is different from consuming proteins containing those amino acids. That's because they do not have to be digested, and can enter the bloodstream immediately. " They come with no energy cost. " > > > > He suspects that BCAA nutritional supplements may prove to be particularly helpful for people with heart failure, the muscle-wasting condition known as sarcopenia, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or other conditions characterized by energy defects. In fact, there are already some small studies in human to support that idea and BCAA supplements are already available for purchase in several countries, including Italy. > > > > The challenge, Nisoli says, will be convincing clinicians that these supplements might be a benefit to their patients. He says a large clinical trial is needed, but there is little incentive for companies to do such trials for dietary supplements as opposed to drugs. > > > > Overall, Nisoli said the new work supports a " general philosophy of a nutritional approach to disease, aging, and problems of energy status. " > > > > The researchers include Giuseppe D'Antona, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Maurizio Ragni, Milan University, Milan, Italy; lisa Cardile, Milan University, Milan, Italy; Tedesco, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Marta Dossena, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Flavia Bruttini, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Francesca Caliaro, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Giovanni Corsetti, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; o Bottinelli, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Michele O. Carruba, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Alessandra Valerio, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; and Enzo Nisoli, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy. > > Email or share this story: > > | More > > > > Story Source: > > > > The above story is reprinted (with editorial adaptations by ScienceDaily staff) from materials provided by Cell Press, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS. > > > > Journal Reference: > > > > 1. Giuseppe D'Antona, Maurizio Ragni, lisa Cardile, Tedesco, Marta Dossena, Flavia Bruttini, Francesca Caliaro, Giovanni Corsetti, o Bottinelli, Michele O. Carruba, Alessandra Valerio, Enzo Nisoli. Branched-Chain Amino Acid Supplementation Promotes Survival and Supports Cardiac and Skeletal Muscle Mitochondrial Biogenesis in Middle-Aged Mice. Cell Metabolism, Volume 12, Issue 4, 362-372, 6 October 2010 DOI: 10.1016/j.cmet.2010.08.016 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Very useful information Dave. Thanks for simplifying this for us. On 10/6/10 4:39 PM, " DaveMaddux " <davemaddux@...> wrote: By the way, BCAAs can be purchased as a supplement in capsules, but the best and most palatable source for these amino acids in my opinion is dairy whey. If you are sensitive to dairy protein, pea protein isolate is an alternative. Dave > > > > A supplement of leucine, isoleucine, and valine (branched chain amino acids) given for several months increased lifespan by 12% and increased activity of SIRT1: > > > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101005121710.htm > > > > > > Amino Acid Supplement Makes Mice Live Longer > > > > ScienceDaily (Oct. 5, 2010) ˜ When mice are given drinking water laced with a special concoction of amino acids, they live longer than your average mouse, according to a new report in the October issue of Cell Metabolism, a Cell Press publication. The key ingredients in the supplemental mixture are so-called branched-chain amino acids, which account for 3 of the 20 amino acids (specifically leucine, isoleucine, and valine) that are the building blocks of proteins. > > > > " This is the first demonstration that an amino acid mixture can increase survival in mice, " said Enzo Nisoli of Milan University in Italy, noting that researchers last year showed that leucine, isoleucine, and valine extend the life span of single-celled yeast. > > > > In the new study, the researchers gave middle-aged, male mice extra branched-chain amino acids (BCAA) in their drinking water. The animals were otherwise healthy and eating standard mouse chow. > > > > Animals that were given the extra amino acids over a period of months lived longer, with a median life span of 869 days compared to 774 days for untreated control animals, the researchers report. That's an increase of 12 percent. > > > > Those survival gains were accompanied by an increase in mitochondria in cardiac and skeletal muscles. Mitochondria are the cellular components responsible for powering cells. The supplement-fed mice also showed increased activity of SIRT1, a well-known longevity gene, and of the defense system that combats free radicals. They therefore showed fewer signs of oxidative damage. > > > > The benefits of the amino acid supplements appear similar to those earlier ascribed to calorie restriction, Nisoli said. > > > > Treated animals also showed improvements in their exercise endurance and in motor coordination, the researchers report. (It is important to note that the animals in the current study were all male, Nisoli said. They plan to test the effects in females in future studies.) > > > > The findings in older mice suggest that the supplementary mixture may be specifically beneficial for those who are elderly or ill. " It may not be useful in young people or body builders, " who are already in good condition, he said. But it might be a useful preventive strategy, he added, emphasizing that the mice they studied " were just aged, not sick. " > > > > Nisoli emphasized that consuming amino acid supplements is different from consuming proteins containing those amino acids. That's because they do not have to be digested, and can enter the bloodstream immediately. " They come with no energy cost. " > > > > He suspects that BCAA nutritional supplements may prove to be particularly helpful for people with heart failure, the muscle-wasting condition known as sarcopenia, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or other conditions characterized by energy defects. In fact, there are already some small studies in human to support that idea and BCAA supplements are already available for purchase in several countries, including Italy. > > > > The challenge, Nisoli says, will be convincing clinicians that these supplements might be a benefit to their patients. He says a large clinical trial is needed, but there is little incentive for companies to do such trials for dietary supplements as opposed to drugs. > > > > Overall, Nisoli said the new work supports a " general philosophy of a nutritional approach to disease, aging, and problems of energy status. " > > > > The researchers include Giuseppe D'Antona, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Maurizio Ragni, Milan University, Milan, Italy; lisa Cardile, Milan University, Milan, Italy; Tedesco, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Marta Dossena, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Flavia Bruttini, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Francesca Caliaro, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Giovanni Corsetti, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; o Bottinelli, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Michele O. Carruba, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Alessandra Valerio, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; and Enzo Nisoli, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy. > > Email or share this story: > > | More > > > > Story Source: > > > > The above story is reprinted (with editorial adaptations by ScienceDaily staff) from materials provided by Cell Press, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS. > > > > Journal Reference: > > > > 1. Giuseppe D'Antona, Maurizio Ragni, lisa Cardile, Tedesco, Marta Dossena, Flavia Bruttini, Francesca Caliaro, Giovanni Corsetti, o Bottinelli, Michele O. Carruba, Alessandra Valerio, Enzo Nisoli. Branched-Chain Amino Acid Supplementation Promotes Survival and Supports Cardiac and Skeletal Muscle Mitochondrial Biogenesis in Middle-Aged Mice. Cell Metabolism, Volume 12, Issue 4, 362-372, 6 October 2010 DOI: 10.1016/j.cmet.2010.08.016 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 By the way, Whey (pun intended) is found in yogurt. It’s the liquid that most people drain off from the yogurt. From now on, I’m going to remix the liquid back into my yogurt. On 10/6/10 4:54 PM, " Francesca Skelton " <fskelton@...> wrote: Very useful information Dave. Thanks for simplifying this for us. On 10/6/10 4:39 PM, " DaveMaddux " <davemaddux@...> wrote: By the way, BCAAs can be purchased as a supplement in capsules, but the best and most palatable source for these amino acids in my opinion is dairy whey. If you are sensitive to dairy protein, pea protein isolate is an alternative. Dave > > > > A supplement of leucine, isoleucine, and valine (branched chain amino acids) given for several months increased lifespan by 12% and increased activity of SIRT1: > > > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101005121710.htm > > > > > > Amino Acid Supplement Makes Mice Live Longer > > > > ScienceDaily (Oct. 5, 2010) ˜ When mice are given drinking water laced with a special concoction of amino acids, they live longer than your average mouse, according to a new report in the October issue of Cell Metabolism, a Cell Press publication. The key ingredients in the supplemental mixture are so-called branched-chain amino acids, which account for 3 of the 20 amino acids (specifically leucine, isoleucine, and valine) that are the building blocks of proteins. > > > > " This is the first demonstration that an amino acid mixture can increase survival in mice, " said Enzo Nisoli of Milan University in Italy, noting that researchers last year showed that leucine, isoleucine, and valine extend the life span of single-celled yeast. > > > > In the new study, the researchers gave middle-aged, male mice extra branched-chain amino acids (BCAA) in their drinking water. The animals were otherwise healthy and eating standard mouse chow. > > > > Animals that were given the extra amino acids over a period of months lived longer, with a median life span of 869 days compared to 774 days for untreated control animals, the researchers report. That's an increase of 12 percent. > > > > Those survival gains were accompanied by an increase in mitochondria in cardiac and skeletal muscles. Mitochondria are the cellular components responsible for powering cells. The supplement-fed mice also showed increased activity of SIRT1, a well-known longevity gene, and of the defense system that combats free radicals. They therefore showed fewer signs of oxidative damage. > > > > The benefits of the amino acid supplements appear similar to those earlier ascribed to calorie restriction, Nisoli said. > > > > Treated animals also showed improvements in their exercise endurance and in motor coordination, the researchers report. (It is important to note that the animals in the current study were all male, Nisoli said. They plan to test the effects in females in future studies.) > > > > The findings in older mice suggest that the supplementary mixture may be specifically beneficial for those who are elderly or ill. " It may not be useful in young people or body builders, " who are already in good condition, he said. But it might be a useful preventive strategy, he added, emphasizing that the mice they studied " were just aged, not sick. " > > > > Nisoli emphasized that consuming amino acid supplements is different from consuming proteins containing those amino acids. That's because they do not have to be digested, and can enter the bloodstream immediately. " They come with no energy cost. " > > > > He suspects that BCAA nutritional supplements may prove to be particularly helpful for people with heart failure, the muscle-wasting condition known as sarcopenia, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or other conditions characterized by energy defects. In fact, there are already some small studies in human to support that idea and BCAA supplements are already available for purchase in several countries, including Italy. > > > > The challenge, Nisoli says, will be convincing clinicians that these supplements might be a benefit to their patients. He says a large clinical trial is needed, but there is little incentive for companies to do such trials for dietary supplements as opposed to drugs. > > > > Overall, Nisoli said the new work supports a " general philosophy of a nutritional approach to disease, aging, and problems of energy status. " > > > > The researchers include Giuseppe D'Antona, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Maurizio Ragni, Milan University, Milan, Italy; lisa Cardile, Milan University, Milan, Italy; Tedesco, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Marta Dossena, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Flavia Bruttini, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Francesca Caliaro, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Giovanni Corsetti, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; o Bottinelli, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Michele O. Carruba, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Alessandra Valerio, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; and Enzo Nisoli, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy. > > Email or share this story: > > | More > > > > Story Source: > > > > The above story is reprinted (with editorial adaptations by ScienceDaily staff) from materials provided by Cell Press, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS. > > > > Journal Reference: > > > > 1. Giuseppe D'Antona, Maurizio Ragni, lisa Cardile, Tedesco, Marta Dossena, Flavia Bruttini, Francesca Caliaro, Giovanni Corsetti, o Bottinelli, Michele O. Carruba, Alessandra Valerio, Enzo Nisoli. Branched-Chain Amino Acid Supplementation Promotes Survival and Supports Cardiac and Skeletal Muscle Mitochondrial Biogenesis in Middle-Aged Mice. Cell Metabolism, Volume 12, Issue 4, 362-372, 6 October 2010 DOI: 10.1016/j.cmet.2010.08.016 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 It seems to me as if they took Sick mice and proved that they lived longer if overfed with BCAA. I seem to recall that Dr. Walford had his mice living to 42 - 45 months on various levels of CR. The summary you gave indicated 26 - 29 months(~779 - 879 days) lifespan. I think I'll wait for better evidence before increasing my BCAA intake. [ ] BCAAs increase lifespan 12% in mouse study A supplement of leucine, isoleucine, and valine (branched chain amino acids) given for several months increased lifespan by 12% and increased activity of SIRT1: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101005121710.htm Amino Acid Supplement Makes Mice Live Longer ScienceDaily (Oct. 5, 2010) — When mice are given drinking water laced with a special concoction of amino acids, they live longer than your average mouse, according to a new report in the October issue of Cell Metabolism, a Cell Press publication. The key ingredients in the supplemental mixture are so-called branched-chain amino acids, which account for 3 of the 20 amino acids (specifically leucine, isoleucine, and valine) that are the building blocks of proteins. " This is the first demonstration that an amino acid mixture can increase survival in mice, " said Enzo Nisoli of Milan University in Italy, noting that researchers last year showed that leucine, isoleucine, and valine extend the life span of single-celled yeast. In the new study, the researchers gave middle-aged, male mice extra branched-chain amino acids (BCAA) in their drinking water. The animals were otherwise healthy and eating standard mouse chow. Animals that were given the extra amino acids over a period of months lived longer, with a median life span of 869 days compared to 774 days for untreated control animals, the researchers report. That's an increase of 12 percent. Those survival gains were accompanied by an increase in mitochondria in cardiac and skeletal muscles. Mitochondria are the cellular components responsible for powering cells. The supplement-fed mice also showed increased activity of SIRT1, a well-known longevity gene, and of the defense system that combats free radicals. They therefore showed fewer signs of oxidative damage. The benefits of the amino acid supplements appear similar to those earlier ascribed to calorie restriction, Nisoli said. Treated animals also showed improvements in their exercise endurance and in motor coordination, the researchers report. (It is important to note that the animals in the current study were all male, Nisoli said. They plan to test the effects in females in future studies.) The findings in older mice suggest that the supplementary mixture may be specifically beneficial for those who are elderly or ill. " It may not be useful in young people or body builders, " who are already in good condition, he said. But it might be a useful preventive strategy, he added, emphasizing that the mice they studied " were just aged, not sick. " Nisoli emphasized that consuming amino acid supplements is different from consuming proteins containing those amino acids. That's because they do not have to be digested, and can enter the bloodstream immediately. " They come with no energy cost. " He suspects that BCAA nutritional supplements may prove to be particularly helpful for people with heart failure, the muscle-wasting condition known as sarcopenia, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or other conditions characterized by energy defects. In fact, there are already some small studies in human to support that idea and BCAA supplements are already available for purchase in several countries, including Italy. The challenge, Nisoli says, will be convincing clinicians that these supplements might be a benefit to their patients. He says a large clinical trial is needed, but there is little incentive for companies to do such trials for dietary supplements as opposed to drugs. Overall, Nisoli said the new work supports a " general philosophy of a nutritional approach to disease, aging, and problems of energy status. " The researchers include Giuseppe D'Antona, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Maurizio Ragni, Milan University, Milan, Italy; lisa Cardile, Milan University, Milan, Italy; Tedesco, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Marta Dossena, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Flavia Bruttini, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Francesca Caliaro, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Giovanni Corsetti, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; o Bottinelli, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Michele O. Carruba, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Alessandra Valerio, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; and Enzo Nisoli, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy. Email or share this story: | More Story Source: The above story is reprinted (with editorial adaptations by ScienceDaily staff) from materials provided by Cell Press, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS. Journal Reference: 1. Giuseppe D'Antona, Maurizio Ragni, lisa Cardile, Tedesco, Marta Dossena, Flavia Bruttini, Francesca Caliaro, Giovanni Corsetti, o Bottinelli, Michele O. Carruba, Alessandra Valerio, Enzo Nisoli. Branched-Chain Amino Acid Supplementation Promotes Survival and Supports Cardiac and Skeletal Muscle Mitochondrial Biogenesis in Middle-Aged Mice. Cell Metabolism, Volume 12, Issue 4, 362-372, 6 October 2010 DOI: 10.1016/j.cmet.2010.08.016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Just wondering, might we conclude to use whey if we're sick? Regards [ ] BCAAs increase lifespan 12% in mouse studyA supplement of leucine, isoleucine, and valine (branched chain amino acids) given for several months increased lifespan by 12% and increased activity of SIRT1:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101005121710.htmAmino Acid Supplement Makes Mice Live Longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 On page 29 of “Beyond”: .....A mouse or rat lives on average for about 24 months. Its maximum life span is 38 to 39 months...... According to the article below, the untreated controls live for about 774 days (divided by 30 days = about 25 days) or about the average age that Walford gives above. So it doesn’t sound as if these mice were sick or diseased. The “Wheyed” mice lived for an avg of 869 days or about 29 months or the 12% increase they cite. A more important question might be if calorie restricted mice would gain any additional benefit or not. On 10/7/10 12:04 PM, " K & L " <scottknl2@...> wrote: It seems to me as if they took Sick mice and proved that they lived longer if overfed with BCAA. I seem to recall that Dr. Walford had his mice living to 42 - 45 months on various levels of CR. The summary you gave indicated 26 - 29 months(~779 - 879 days) lifespan. I think I'll wait for better evidence before increasing my BCAA intake. [ ] BCAAs increase lifespan 12% in mouse study A supplement of leucine, isoleucine, and valine (branched chain amino acids) given for several months increased lifespan by 12% and increased activity of SIRT1: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101005121710.htm Amino Acid Supplement Makes Mice Live Longer ScienceDaily (Oct. 5, 2010) ˜ When mice are given drinking water laced with a special concoction of amino acids, they live longer than your average mouse, according to a new report in the October issue of Cell Metabolism, a Cell Press publication. The key ingredients in the supplemental mixture are so-called branched-chain amino acids, which account for 3 of the 20 amino acids (specifically leucine, isoleucine, and valine) that are the building blocks of proteins. " This is the first demonstration that an amino acid mixture can increase survival in mice, " said Enzo Nisoli of Milan University in Italy, noting that researchers last year showed that leucine, isoleucine, and valine extend the life span of single-celled yeast. In the new study, the researchers gave middle-aged, male mice extra branched-chain amino acids (BCAA) in their drinking water. The animals were otherwise healthy and eating standard mouse chow. Animals that were given the extra amino acids over a period of months lived longer, with a median life span of 869 days compared to 774 days for untreated control animals, the researchers report. That's an increase of 12 percent. Those survival gains were accompanied by an increase in mitochondria in cardiac and skeletal muscles. Mitochondria are the cellular components responsible for powering cells. The supplement-fed mice also showed increased activity of SIRT1, a well-known longevity gene, and of the defense system that combats free radicals. They therefore showed fewer signs of oxidative damage. The benefits of the amino acid supplements appear similar to those earlier ascribed to calorie restriction, Nisoli said. Treated animals also showed improvements in their exercise endurance and in motor coordination, the researchers report. (It is important to note that the animals in the current study were all male, Nisoli said. They plan to test the effects in females in future studies.) The findings in older mice suggest that the supplementary mixture may be specifically beneficial for those who are elderly or ill. " It may not be useful in young people or body builders, " who are already in good condition, he said. But it might be a useful preventive strategy, he added, emphasizing that the mice they studied " were just aged, not sick. " Nisoli emphasized that consuming amino acid supplements is different from consuming proteins containing those amino acids. That's because they do not have to be digested, and can enter the bloodstream immediately. " They come with no energy cost. " He suspects that BCAA nutritional supplements may prove to be particularly helpful for people with heart failure, the muscle-wasting condition known as sarcopenia, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or other conditions characterized by energy defects. In fact, there are already some small studies in human to support that idea and BCAA supplements are already available for purchase in several countries, including Italy. The challenge, Nisoli says, will be convincing clinicians that these supplements might be a benefit to their patients. He says a large clinical trial is needed, but there is little incentive for companies to do such trials for dietary supplements as opposed to drugs. Overall, Nisoli said the new work supports a " general philosophy of a nutritional approach to disease, aging, and problems of energy status. " The researchers include Giuseppe D'Antona, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Maurizio Ragni, Milan University, Milan, Italy; lisa Cardile, Milan University, Milan, Italy; Tedesco, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Marta Dossena, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Flavia Bruttini, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Francesca Caliaro, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Giovanni Corsetti, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; o Bottinelli, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Michele O. Carruba, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Alessandra Valerio, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; and Enzo Nisoli, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy. Email or share this story: | More Story Source: The above story is reprinted (with editorial adaptations by ScienceDaily staff) from materials provided by Cell Press, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS. Journal Reference: 1. Giuseppe D'Antona, Maurizio Ragni, lisa Cardile, Tedesco, Marta Dossena, Flavia Bruttini, Francesca Caliaro, Giovanni Corsetti, o Bottinelli, Michele O. Carruba, Alessandra Valerio, Enzo Nisoli. Branched-Chain Amino Acid Supplementation Promotes Survival and Supports Cardiac and Skeletal Muscle Mitochondrial Biogenesis in Middle-Aged Mice. Cell Metabolism, Volume 12, Issue 4, 362-372, 6 October 2010 DOI: 10.1016/j.cmet.2010.08.016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 I see no reason to be overly cautious about dairy whey or BCAAs. Whey and the amino acid leucine in particular have been discussed at length here on this forum in the past for their benefit to reduce muscle wasting. Whey is also low in the amino acid methionine (the restriction of which could possibly increase lifespan), relative to the other aminos whey contains. I remember an article posted here that mentioned that supplementation of the single amino acid leucine reduced the muscle wasting associated with aging. One of our members added that the lowest calorie food source of leucine was cottage cheese, among others. A few links of earlier posts regarding leucine, for your convenience: /message/23338 /message/23325 /message/21853 /message/21756 /message/21755 /message/21714 /message/20984 /message/13247 /message/934 Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me as if they took Sick mice and proved that they lived longer if > > overfed with BCAA. I seem to recall that Dr. Walford had his mice living to > > 42 - 45 months on various levels of CR. The summary you gave indicated 26 - > > 29 months(~779 - 879 days) lifespan. I think I'll wait for better evidence > > before increasing my BCAA intake. > > > > [ ] BCAAs increase lifespan 12% in mouse study > > > > A supplement of leucine, isoleucine, and valine (branched chain amino acids) > > given for several months increased lifespan by 12% and increased activity of > > SIRT1: > > > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101005121710.htm > > > > Amino Acid Supplement Makes Mice Live Longer > > > > ScienceDaily (Oct. 5, 2010) — When mice are given drinking water laced with a > > special concoction of amino acids, they live longer than your average mouse, > > according to a new report in the October issue of Cell Metabolism, a Cell > > Press publication. The key ingredients in the supplemental mixture are > > so-called branched-chain amino acids, which account for 3 of the 20 amino > > acids (specifically leucine, isoleucine, and valine) that are the building > > blocks of proteins. > > > > " This is the first demonstration that an amino acid mixture can increase > > survival in mice, " said Enzo Nisoli of Milan University in Italy, noting that > > researchers last year showed that leucine, isoleucine, and valine extend the > > life span of single-celled yeast. > > > > In the new study, the researchers gave middle-aged, male mice extra > > branched-chain amino acids (BCAA) in their drinking water. The animals were > > otherwise healthy and eating standard mouse chow. > > > > Animals that were given the extra amino acids over a period of months lived > > longer, with a median life span of 869 days compared to 774 days for untreated > > control animals, the researchers report. That's an increase of 12 percent. > > > > Those survival gains were accompanied by an increase in mitochondria in > > cardiac and skeletal muscles. Mitochondria are the cellular components > > responsible for powering cells. The supplement-fed mice also showed increased > > activity of SIRT1, a well-known longevity gene, and of the defense system that > > combats free radicals. They therefore showed fewer signs of oxidative damage. > > > > The benefits of the amino acid supplements appear similar to those earlier > > ascribed to calorie restriction, Nisoli said. > > > > Treated animals also showed improvements in their exercise endurance and in > > motor coordination, the researchers report. (It is important to note that the > > animals in the current study were all male, Nisoli said. They plan to test the > > effects in females in future studies.) > > > > The findings in older mice suggest that the supplementary mixture may be > > specifically beneficial for those who are elderly or ill. " It may not be > > useful in young people or body builders, " who are already in good condition, > > he said. But it might be a useful preventive strategy, he added, emphasizing > > that the mice they studied " were just aged, not sick. " > > > > Nisoli emphasized that consuming amino acid supplements is different from > > consuming proteins containing those amino acids. That's because they do not > > have to be digested, and can enter the bloodstream immediately. " They come > > with no energy cost. " > > > > He suspects that BCAA nutritional supplements may prove to be particularly > > helpful for people with heart failure, the muscle-wasting condition known as > > sarcopenia, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or other conditions > > characterized by energy defects. In fact, there are already some small studies > > in human to support that idea and BCAA supplements are already available for > > purchase in several countries, including Italy. > > > > The challenge, Nisoli says, will be convincing clinicians that these > > supplements might be a benefit to their patients. He says a large clinical > > trial is needed, but there is little incentive for companies to do such trials > > for dietary supplements as opposed to drugs. > > > > Overall, Nisoli said the new work supports a " general philosophy of a > > nutritional approach to disease, aging, and problems of energy status. " > > > > The researchers include Giuseppe D'Antona, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; > > Maurizio Ragni, Milan University, Milan, Italy; lisa Cardile, Milan > > University, Milan, Italy; Tedesco, Milan University, Milan, Italy, > > Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Marta Dossena, Milan University, Milan, > > Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Flavia Bruttini, Pavia University, > > Pavia, Italy; Francesca Caliaro, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Giovanni > > Corsetti, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; o Bottinelli, Pavia > > University, Pavia, Italy; Michele O. Carruba, Milan University, Milan, Italy, > > Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Alessandra Valerio, Milan University, > > Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; and Enzo Nisoli, Milan > > University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy. > > Email or share this story: > > | More > > > > Story Source: > > > > The above story is reprinted (with editorial adaptations by ScienceDaily > > staff) from materials provided by Cell Press, via EurekAlert!, a service of > > AAAS. > > > > Journal Reference: > > > > 1. Giuseppe D'Antona, Maurizio Ragni, lisa Cardile, Tedesco, Marta > > Dossena, Flavia Bruttini, Francesca Caliaro, Giovanni Corsetti, o > > Bottinelli, Michele O. Carruba, Alessandra Valerio, Enzo Nisoli. > > Branched-Chain Amino Acid Supplementation Promotes Survival and Supports > > Cardiac and Skeletal Muscle Mitochondrial Biogenesis in Middle-Aged Mice. Cell > > Metabolism, Volume 12, Issue 4, 362-372, 6 October 2010 DOI: > > 10.1016/j.cmet.2010.08.016 > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Hi Francesca, I can see that my confusion comes from Weindruch R, et al. (1986). " The retardation of aging in mice by dietary restriction: longevity, cancer, immunity and lifetime energy intake. " Journal of Nutrition, April, 116(4), pages 641-54. In which they used a " long lived F1 hybrid strain (C3B10RF1) " of laboratory mouse. This explains why I thought that the mice generally lived longer. It seems that the choice of mouse is very important when trying to compare research. Apples to Apples etc... On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...> wrote: > > > > On page 29 of “Beyond”: .....A mouse or rat lives on average for about 24 months. Its maximum life span is 38 to 39 months...... > > According to the article below, the untreated controls live for about 774 days (divided by 30 days = about 25 days) or about the average age that Walford gives above. So it doesn’t sound as if these mice were sick or diseased. The “Wheyed” mice lived for an avg of 869 days or about 29 months or the 12% increase they cite. > > A more important question might be if calorie restricted mice would gain any additional benefit or not. > > > On 10/7/10 12:04 PM, " K & L " <scottknl2@...> wrote: > > > > > > > It seems to me as if they took Sick mice and proved that they lived longer if overfed with BCAA. I seem to recall that Dr. Walford had his mice living to 42 - 45 months on various levels of CR. The summary you gave indicated 26 - 29 months(~779 - 879 days) lifespan. I think I'll wait for better evidence before increasing my BCAA intake. > > [ ] BCAAs increase lifespan 12% in mouse study > > A supplement of leucine, isoleucine, and valine (branched chain amino acids) given for several months increased lifespan by 12% and increased activity of SIRT1: > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101005121710.htm > > Amino Acid Supplement Makes Mice Live Longer > > ScienceDaily (Oct. 5, 2010) ˜ When mice are given drinking water laced with a special concoction of amino acids, they live longer than your average mouse, according to a new report in the October issue of Cell Metabolism, a Cell Press publication. The key ingredients in the supplemental mixture are so-called branched-chain amino acids, which account for 3 of the 20 amino acids (specifically leucine, isoleucine, and valine) that are the building blocks of proteins. > > " This is the first demonstration that an amino acid mixture can increase survival in mice, " said Enzo Nisoli of Milan University in Italy, noting that researchers last year showed that leucine, isoleucine, and valine extend the life span of single-celled yeast. > > In the new study, the researchers gave middle-aged, male mice extra branched-chain amino acids (BCAA) in their drinking water. The animals were otherwise healthy and eating standard mouse chow. > > Animals that were given the extra amino acids over a period of months lived longer, with a median life span of 869 days compared to 774 days for untreated control animals, the researchers report. That's an increase of 12 percent. > > Those survival gains were accompanied by an increase in mitochondria in cardiac and skeletal muscles. Mitochondria are the cellular components responsible for powering cells. The supplement-fed mice also showed increased activity of SIRT1, a well-known longevity gene, and of the defense system that combats free radicals. They therefore showed fewer signs of oxidative damage. > > The benefits of the amino acid supplements appear similar to those earlier ascribed to calorie restriction, Nisoli said. > > Treated animals also showed improvements in their exercise endurance and in motor coordination, the researchers report. (It is important to note that the animals in the current study were all male, Nisoli said. They plan to test the effects in females in future studies.) > > The findings in older mice suggest that the supplementary mixture may be specifically beneficial for those who are elderly or ill. " It may not be useful in young people or body builders, " who are already in good condition, he said. But it might be a useful preventive strategy, he added, emphasizing that the mice they studied " were just aged, not sick. " > > Nisoli emphasized that consuming amino acid supplements is different from consuming proteins containing those amino acids. That's because they do not have to be digested, and can enter the bloodstream immediately. " They come with no energy cost. " > > He suspects that BCAA nutritional supplements may prove to be particularly helpful for people with heart failure, the muscle-wasting condition known as sarcopenia, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, or other conditions characterized by energy defects. In fact, there are already some small studies in human to support that idea and BCAA supplements are already available for purchase in several countries, including Italy. > > The challenge, Nisoli says, will be convincing clinicians that these supplements might be a benefit to their patients. He says a large clinical trial is needed, but there is little incentive for companies to do such trials for dietary supplements as opposed to drugs. > > Overall, Nisoli said the new work supports a " general philosophy of a nutritional approach to disease, aging, and problems of energy status. " > > The researchers include Giuseppe D'Antona, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Maurizio Ragni, Milan University, Milan, Italy; lisa Cardile, Milan University, Milan, Italy; Tedesco, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Marta Dossena, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Flavia Bruttini, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Francesca Caliaro, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Giovanni Corsetti, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; o Bottinelli, Pavia University, Pavia, Italy; Michele O. Carruba, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; Alessandra Valerio, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy; and Enzo Nisoli, Milan University, Milan, Italy, Brescia University, Brescia, Italy. > Email or share this story: > | More > > Story Source: > > The above story is reprinted (with editorial adaptations by ScienceDaily staff) from materials provided by Cell Press, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS. > > Journal Reference: > > 1. Giuseppe D'Antona, Maurizio Ragni, lisa Cardile, Tedesco, Marta Dossena, Flavia Bruttini, Francesca Caliaro, Giovanni Corsetti, o Bottinelli, Michele O. Carruba, Alessandra Valerio, Enzo Nisoli. Branched-Chain Amino Acid Supplementation Promotes Survival and Supports Cardiac and Skeletal Muscle Mitochondrial Biogenesis in Middle-Aged Mice. Cell Metabolism, Volume 12, Issue 4, 362-372, 6 October 2010 DOI: 10.1016/j.cmet.2010.08.016 > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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